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Posted: 10/17/2014 2:05:55 PM EDT
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What do you guys think of the RRA .308? Rock River Arms LAR-8 308A1560 Varmint A4 26" Stainless Bull Barrel
I am thinking more of a Range Queen, might try to shoot it out in the 500 Yd range. Not my 1st AR but my 1st .308 |
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What do you guys think of the RRA .308? Rock River Arms LAR-8 308A1560 Varmint A4 26" Stainless Bull Barrel I am thinking more of a Range Queen, might try to shoot it out in the 500 Yd range. Not my 1st AR but my 1st .308 I wouldnt go over 20" on a 308 if I planned on moving it anywhere. I have a RRA AR15 and really like it. |
| RRA makes some very accurate rifles. I love my 16" LAR-8 that I have had for five years and regularly shoot out to 500 yards with it. I use it for hunting as well as target shooting. It weighs 14.5 pounds with a full magazine. It does seem that there is not much love for RRA .308's because of the use of FAL magazines, but for me it has been a non issue. |
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In the AR10, you are not getting enough velocity advantage from .308 to make a difference over 22", in my experience. In a bolt gun, yes, pushing Palma brass and 155gr or 175gr Hybrid ogive pills at super fast speeds.
In the 26" RLGS arrangement on the AR10, you can't take full advantage of slow burning powders due to the gas port location, so you have unnecessary barrel length of no use. For what you are wanting to do, I wouldn't even mess with an AR10, and just get a 6.5 Grendel AR15 with a lot less headaches. I've been down both roads for years, and I got rid of everything .308 Winchester, and went to .260 Remington for really long range, and 6.5 Grendel for out to 1200yds. Since you are shooting out to 500yds, the Grendel will give you much more impact energy on steel than .223 Remington, since it hits with 85% of what a .308 does, but with half the recoil, and nothing but an upper receiver change for a -15, or more affordable complete build or rifle that will actually work when comparing it to the .308 DIY market. If you absolutely have to have a .308 Winchester, I would look at an economy AP4 or Recon in either the GII or old DPMS line up, a CMMG MK3, something in that price range of $699-$1200, and let me trouble shoot it with you through the forum. The low dollar stuff will require some parts changes and tweaks before I feel they are range worthy, so there is some minor gunsmithing involved. You will need a basic tool shop, vice, and some unique armorer tools to get started. |
| I am not married to .308. I try to stay in military calibers cause easier ammo. I also want to hunt a little and was looking for something that hit's a little harder then .223. I have built 2 AR's and helped build a bunch over the years. I am kind of shying away from "projects" I like to shoot and I hope to get to hunt a little sooner or later. I did not think about other calibers. I will look more at the other calibers. I might have a line on a used LAR-8 but I was thinking the longer length was important. I know gas guns bleed of pressure before the bullet leaves the barrel. Thank you for your help and I will ask more questions as purchase gets closer. |
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26" barrel for 500 yards??? lol
Bro, you can ring gongs all day lon at 600 w/ a 12.5" 308. read that TTAG link. That gun would eight pobably 15 lbs w/ glass w/ a 26" barrel and would shoulder like a pig on a stick. 26" tubes are for long range shooting (>800 yards) usually from a bench or just at the range. If you might like to hunt w/ this rifle, you probably wouldn't be taking shots at > 300 yards anyway unless you are out west or something. People are slam fucking big hogs at 300 yards w/ 6 lb w/ 10.5" barreled 6.8s on a regular basis. just something to think about. |
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My honest opinion is that RRA should just cut any further production of the LAR-8. The receivers are simply too long, BCG is too long, charge handle same thing, no commonality in the few places the AR10 market is with some brands.
I think they should keep the ambi bolt catch, which is a contributor to why the gun is so long, in addition to making a lever inside that locks into the FAL mag rear block. There is no reason for that anymore, since the AWB has been gone for 10 years now. They could offer something really innovative, shorter, with their bolt catch assembly, and do really well for themselves, placing the company back in one of the leading seats for AR10's if they play their cards right. If they double down on the LAR-8, I predict reduced revenue for the company in a highly competitive .308 market. There just isn't much appeal to that rifle anymore. If it was still 1994, I would own one so I could use FAL mags, but it's 2014 now. |
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