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Posted: 9/6/2014 8:26:56 PM EDT
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So my buddy just got an M&P10 and we had it on the range the other day. The thing comes with a standard M4 stock and round hanguards. We both agree, as he wants it to be a precision rifle, he would be better off switching the stock out. I was going to hook him up with some of my spare parts but then i read this:
linky Basically to summarize it states that the buffer tube, spring etc are all proprietary and in order to install any kind of mil-spec stock you need a spacer. Can anyone confirm this because info i've found on other sites seems to contradict this? If this is true does he just have to call S&W so they will send him a spacer? Thanks |
| I put a Magpul Rifle Stock on mine and I just called S&W, asked them for the spacer and $14 and a week later I had it. I put it in my rifle stock and it works perfectly. I don't know if you could skip the spacer, but S&W said to use it, so I went with it. I figure they would know best. |
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So my buddy just got an M&P10 and we had it on the range the other day. The thing comes with a standard M4 stock and round hanguards. We both agree, as he wants it to be a precision rifle, he would be better off switching the stock out. I was going to hook him up with some of my spare parts but then i read this: linky Basically to summarize it states that the buffer tube, spring etc are all proprietary and in order to install any kind of mil-spec stock you need a spacer. Can anyone confirm this because info i've found on other sites seems to contradict this? If this is true does he just have to call S&W so they will send him a spacer? Thanks You only need the spacer if you are going to switch to an A2 type rifle-length buffer tube. You can swap out stocks just fine as the buffer tube is mil-spec diameter. I believe that it is does differ in length from a standard mil-spec buffer tube, so you don't want to switch out the tube if you don't have to. Most guys just replace the stock with something from Magpul or Vltor. Myself, I wanted to run a Magpul UBR on my MP10, and was told that it would not work. However, I talked to Slash, at Heavy Buffers, and he was able to confirm that the UBR will indeed work with the MP10 and he hooked me up with the proper spring and buffer. I've put a few hundred rounds through my MP10 with the UBR stock, and it has been flawless. If your buddy is going for precision, he should also be thinking about free floating the barrel. I went with the keymod rail from Midwest Industries, and I am very pleased with it. You just have to be careful when choosing a rail for the MP10 and make sure you get one that is compatible. |
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The MP10 has a light contour barrel and is not ideal for any type of "precision" work. It was designed to be lightweight so if your gonna walk that bad boy out to your tree stand or shoot it off hand it doesn't weigh much and handles well.
I would seriously consider rebarreling it and your groups will tighten up dramatically. I'd look into a heavier contour stainless 1:10 and keep it at 18" free floated . Swapping out that gritty 7lb trigger is also a MUST and there are lots to choose from that will make you much more consistent. Other than that it's an excellent rifle and an AWESOME company to deal with. J |
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I personally stay WELL away from ALL M&P stuff. They are notorious for making their products incompatible with most common parts. People are better off with either building their own or buying most any other pre-built 308. I had a buddy that bought a M&P 22 ARish rifle. I tried to swap lowers and it wouldn't fit. They are real sneaky in order to ensure that nothing fits by a fragment of an inch. |
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I personally stay WELL away from ALL M&P stuff. They are notorious for making their products incompatible with most common parts. People are better off with either building their own or buying most any other pre-built 308. I had a buddy that bought a M&P 22 ARish rifle. I tried to swap lowers and it wouldn't fit. They are real sneaky in order to ensure that nothing fits by a fragment of an inch. Erm sorry man but the S&W 22 is a completely different design to a real ar you probably should have realized that before trying to swap lowers. I've had an m&p15 for years and loved it. It stays with all my colts and other ars that I wouldn't sell! @j I agree with the lightweight light barrel thing. Like u said it's not my rifle. One of the reasons I'm posting here is the guy isn't very internet savvy he insisted on buying for an lgs as opposed to online because he trusts them even though from my dealings with them they aren't great. Anyway to each their own. Right now I'm just trying to get it comfortable for him then you are right next up is the barrel. |
| It doesn't need a spacer. I put an A2 receiver extension on mine with an AR-10 rifle buffer and spring in a Magpul MOE fixed rifle stock, and it works fine. I had to drill out the gas port to get it to run reliably on 7.62 ammo, but that goes for the factory stock/buffer setup as well. |
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I personally stay WELL away from ALL M&P stuff. They are notorious for making their products incompatible with most common parts. People are better off with either building their own or buying most any other pre-built 308. I had a buddy that bought a M&P 22 ARish rifle. I tried to swap lowers and it wouldn't fit. They are real sneaky in order to ensure that nothing fits by a fragment of an inch. Wow, how old are you? Did you you even read the instructions or the advertisements that said you can't do that? It's hardly some conspiracy if you can't comprehend the instructions. The M&P15-22 is widely accepted as one of, if not the best .22 AR available. It's also the most realistic in function, made that way specifically so that it can be used for training as well as fun. As far as the M&P15, it's completely compatible with other AR's so your statement has no truth to it at all. Perhaps your are referring to the M&P10 but then that couldn't be it either since almost every .308 platform AR is proprietary in many ways plus, as we've seen in this thread the M&P is compatible with the usual upgrades. Let's move on to the rest of the M&P line...oh wait, nope nothing there comes close to your claims either. |
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I personally stay WELL away from ALL M&P stuff. They are notorious for making their products incompatible with most common parts. People are better off with either building their own or buying most any other pre-built 308. I had a buddy that bought a M&P 22 ARish rifle. I tried to swap lowers and it wouldn't fit. They are real sneaky in order to ensure that nothing fits by a fragment of an inch. This is just bad info. Unless you can be more specific - I disagree. I have two M&P 15 rifles. Just like any AR all the parts can be swapped. I have done tons of different stuff to them and all within spec and compatible. Complete nonsense. |
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