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12/2/2012 6:16:32 PM EDT
Just finished and have not shot it yet because of the storm front that came this weekend in NorCal.

Mega Arms MaTen Rifle Length Monolithic Upper
Mega Arms Ambi Lower
Rainier Arms AXTS 7.62 Raptor on order
Phase 5 Ambi Bolt Release EBRV2
Phase 5 Bullet Button
Phase 5 Magazine Release Tool
KNS Gen 2 Mod 2 Anti Rotating
Mega Arms Adjustable Tactical Trigger
Spikes Tactical Nickel Boron Hammer/Disconnector
Mega Arms Pistol Grip
Rainier Arms Custom .308 Fluted 16in Ultra Match Barrel
JP Tactical Brake
Syrac Ordinance LP Adjustable Gas Block
Magpul UBR
Magpul UBR Strikeplate
Magpul UBR Buttpad
DiamondHead Iron Sights
JP Low Mass BCG
JP Enhanced Bolt
KNS Perma Firing Pin Retainer
POF Roller Cam
JP Silent Captured Spring/Buffer
BAD Ambi-Safety Fat/Thin
Tango Down Short VFG
Ergo Surestop Tactical Handstop
Magpul MS3 Sling
Burris AR-536 W/Bobro Mount












I have these others because I could not decide what I wanted to go with. I will use them on other builds and also switch them to the MaTen so I can have other "mission" configs.
Primary Arms Compact 3x
Aimpoint M4
Primary Arms M4
Vortex Strikefire
Vortex Sparc




12/2/2012 6:37:29 PM EDT
[#1]
That thing looks sweet! I can not wait to get mine built.
12/2/2012 6:41:09 PM EDT
[#2]
Congrats! That's one nice looking MaTen!

How much do you have in it? I recently just bought a Sig 716 because I wanted a .308... now I've got the bug to assemble my own.
12/2/2012 7:46:23 PM EDT
[#3]
Please just sell the receivers, I didn't get a set before production ceased.
12/3/2012 1:13:37 AM EDT
[#4]
That looks awesome!

How much do you have in it minus the optic?
12/3/2012 3:03:59 AM EDT
[#5]
Why have a B.A.D type device on an ambi lower?
12/3/2012 6:38:13 AM EDT
[#6]
I'm curious about the JP lmos since dpms bolts are so hard to find right now - bcg is the last item needed for my 6.5cm maten

Post if you have any issues changing ammo/etc with the gas/bolt system that you're running please
12/3/2012 8:51:26 AM EDT
[#7]
I actually do not know how much I have into it but I was able to get hooked up pretty good by JP and some of the other stuff I bought. Cost was not an issue when I built it. I dont want to total it up. Since I used slush fund money and had the parts shipped to my office out of the watchful eye as the one known as "The Wife" lolz
12/3/2012 8:55:39 AM EDT
[#8]
Why have a B.A.D type device on an ambi lower?


Because I can
12/3/2012 12:22:15 PM EDT
[#9]
Just one thing...
12/3/2012 1:42:27 PM EDT
[#10]
What's the thing on your bullet button?
12/3/2012 1:55:57 PM EDT
[#11]
I wish they would bring those uppers (and the tubular ones) back to market...

Nice build!
12/3/2012 2:29:40 PM EDT
[#12]
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I wish they would bring those uppers (and the tubular ones) back to market...

Nice build!


The next MATEN upper http://militarytimes.com/blogs/gearscout/2012/11/04/first-look-at-mega-arms-308-upper-receiver-mkm-maten/
12/3/2012 3:14:59 PM EDT
[#13]
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What's the thing on your bullet button?


Its a sweet magazine release tool tool that fits into the hole of the bullet button and drops the mag. The magnet is strong on it.
Phase 5 Tactical Mag Release Tool
12/3/2012 3:56:44 PM EDT
[#14]
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What's the thing on your bullet button?


Its a sweet magazine release tool tool that fits into the hole of the bullet button and drops the mag. The magnet is strong on it.
Phase 5 Tactical Mag Release Tool


Yea you should probably leave it out of your pics…..
12/3/2012 4:31:23 PM EDT
[#15]
Beautiful rifle! How do you like that bobro mount? I have the same scope and am debating either a bobro or AD..
12/3/2012 4:44:26 PM EDT
[#16]
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What's the thing on your bullet button?


Its a sweet magazine release tool tool that fits into the hole of the bullet button and drops the mag. The magnet is strong on it.
Phase 5 Tactical Mag Release Tool


Yea you should probably leave it out of your pics…..


This. That's a felony here.
12/3/2012 4:49:22 PM EDT
[#17]
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What's the thing on your bullet button?


Its a sweet magazine release tool tool that fits into the hole of the bullet button and drops the mag. The magnet is strong on it.
Phase 5 Tactical Mag Release Tool


Yea you should probably leave it out of your pics…..


This. That's a felony here.


Whats with people TRYING to get locked up all of a sudden there have been like 3-4 threads in the last few days where I have pointed out some serious legal issues. IANAL but come on guys, this is the open internet anyone can see what is being posted…...
12/3/2012 5:09:34 PM EDT
[#18]
THAT is a REALLY nice rifle.
12/3/2012 5:43:40 PM EDT
[#19]
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What's the thing on your bullet button?


Its a sweet magazine release tool tool that fits into the hole of the bullet button and drops the mag. The magnet is strong on it.
Phase 5 Tactical Mag Release Tool


Yea you should probably leave it out of your pics…..


This. That's a felony here.


Whats with people TRYING to get locked up all of a sudden there have been like 3-4 threads in the last few days where I have pointed out some serious legal issues. IANAL but come on guys, this is the open internet anyone can see what is being posted…...


The mag is empty and was in the gun to prop it up so it stands. If the gun was loaded and someone was shooting that would be an issue. The pics were to show what I built. These are not active shooting pics with loaded mags. Thank you for your concern
12/3/2012 5:45:37 PM EDT
[#20]
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Beautiful rifle! How do you like that bobro mount? I have the same scope and am debating either a bobro or AD..


Bobro is amazing. I would love to just use them from now on. Once you see and feel the quality you will be sold!
12/3/2012 7:39:56 PM EDT
[#21]
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I wish they would bring those uppers (and the tubular ones) back to market...

Nice build!


The next MATEN upper http://militarytimes.com/blogs/gearscout/2012/11/04/first-look-at-mega-arms-308-upper-receiver-mkm-maten/


Yep, seen that... nice, but is not the same... the MTS line is a work of art.

12/4/2012 1:12:20 AM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
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What's the thing on your bullet button?


Its a sweet magazine release tool tool that fits into the hole of the bullet button and drops the mag. The magnet is strong on it.
Phase 5 Tactical Mag Release Tool


Yea you should probably leave it out of your pics…..


This. That's a felony here.


Whats with people TRYING to get locked up all of a sudden there have been like 3-4 threads in the last few days where I have pointed out some serious legal issues. IANAL but come on guys, this is the open internet anyone can see what is being posted…...


The mag is empty and was in the gun to prop it up so it stands. If the gun was loaded and someone was shooting that would be an issue. The pics were to show what I built. These are not active shooting pics with loaded mags. Thank you for your concern


Do you really think CA will see it like that?

im not trying to sound like an ass, really it is a nice looking rifle. I just dont think it is smart to even acknowledge on the web that you have a device for getting around their laws, let alone post pics of it….. Maybe its fine just in pics….IDK…. you should know your states laws the better then me…..
12/4/2012 7:43:57 AM EDT
[#23]
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What's the thing on your bullet button?


Its a sweet magazine release tool tool that fits into the hole of the bullet button and drops the mag. The magnet is strong on it.
Phase 5 Tactical Mag Release Tool


Yea you should probably leave it out of your pics…..


This. That's a felony here.


Whats with people TRYING to get locked up all of a sudden there have been like 3-4 threads in the last few days where I have pointed out some serious legal issues. IANAL but come on guys, this is the open internet anyone can see what is being posted…...


The mag is empty and was in the gun to prop it up so it stands. If the gun was loaded and someone was shooting that would be an issue. The pics were to show what I built. These are not active shooting pics with loaded mags. Thank you for your concern


Do you really think CA will see it like that?

im not trying to sound like an ass, really it is a nice looking rifle. I just dont think it is smart to even acknowledge on the web that you have a device for getting around their laws, let alone post pics of it….. Maybe its fine just in pics….IDK…. you should know your states laws the better then me…..


I know my states laws look at my screen name.
12/4/2012 12:48:56 PM EDT
[#24]
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I know my states laws look at my screen name.


I dont know what that means……But sure you do……

I think this about says it all regarding Magnetic BB override devices.


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This is a re-post of Sean Brady's (of Michel & Associates, NRA/CRPA CA legal team) Nov 2009 post regarding "Magnetic BulletButton" devices
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In response to the many questions surrounding the legality of “magnetic bullet buttons,” we have conducted research on the matter and produced a memorandum explaining the legal ramifications of their use. Our findings and analysis are available at:
<<invalid link>> (http://www.calgunlaws.com/images/stories/Docs/aw%20weapons%20modifications%20memo.pdf)

We have made the memorandum a public document on www.calgunlaws.com (http://www.calgunlaws.com/), [CAN'T FIND] which means you do not have to register in order to read it. However, if you want to receive future alerts of similar memoranda or current legal matters our office is undertaking, we encourage you to register.
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Copy is at
http://gs2ac.com/flyers/2009/20091223awweaponsmodificationsmemo.pdf

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Extracted key text:

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"Police are frankly not likely to accept that position and are likely to make an arrest and let prosecutors
decide how to proceed. As a practical matter, prosecutors and the criminal court judges will likely be
hard to sway.

This advisory should serve to warn gun owners of the dangers of engaging in this practice, and provide
ways to minimize potential legal liability.


B. Magnetic “Tools” ....

In some instances, other items have been used instead of a bullet tip to depress the inner button,
and this is where potential liability lies. An increasingly used practice is to use a replacement or
extension button (a “Wonder Wrench”), or magnetic device (a “AR Mag Magnet”), instead of a bullet
tip to depress the inner button. These buttons and magnets are typically narrow enough to depress
the inner button and release the magazine. Also, in the case of magnets, the “tool” now can stay
magnetically attached to the inner metal button, even during and after firing of firearm. In essence,
this device extends the magazine release button so it can be operated by the push of a finger while
attached.
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But when the owner leaves the “tool” within the “bullet button” device or attached to the firearm,
the operator can then use the “bullet button” and “tool” exactly as he or she would use the standard
magazine release mechanism that came originally equipped to the firearm.

Recently, an individual was prosecuted for a violation of California Penal Code section 12280(b),
possession of an “assault weapon” because he possessed a rifle that was: semiautomatic; centerfire;
with an attached “bullet button” and magnet (the magnet was placed within the “bullet button”);
a pistol grip; and collapsible stock. The magnet had allegedly been left within the “bullet button”
when the firearm was seized by law enforcement. It was California Department of Justice’s opinion
that as configured the rifle still had the “capacity to accept a detachable magazine.” Consequently,
the rifle was considered an illegal “Category 3" firearm being semi-automatic, centerfire, with the
capacity to accept a detachable magazine, a pistol grip, and collapsible stock.

Fortunately, a charge for manufacturing an “assault weapon” (a straight felony) was not filed. But a
creative prosecutor could have with possible success.


IV. CONCLUSION

Our office strongly cautions against the practice of leaving the “tool” within or attached to the magazine
releasing device (i.e., the bullet button), or even just attached to the rifle. Doing so, either temporarily
or permanently, will likely subject the individual to felony criminal prosecution for possessing an
“assault weapon” and potentially even for manufacturing an “assault weapon.”

Although an argument can be made that despite leaving the “tool” on the firearm, the firearm still requires
the “tool” to release the magazine, we do not need or want to test this argument in a criminal court, and
neither should you.
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Other more significant challenges to California’s “assault weapon” statutes are pending, and challenges
to “assault weapon” laws in other parts of the country are ongoing and active. After the tool is used to
release a magazine, the tool should be removed from the firearm. DO NOT ever leave the tool attached
to the firearm. Leaving the tool attached to the firearm may result in felony criminal prosecution.


Thats just like me putting a flash hider on for pics and saying its cool, Ill take it off when I go to the range…..
12/4/2012 1:20:06 PM EDT
[#25]
Hey Bob Costas quit posting on my thread!
12/4/2012 4:23:34 PM EDT
[#26]
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Hey Bob Costas quit posting on my thread!


Hey, just trying to help a forum member out. Sometimes guys just don't know….I guess you do….Sorry, it's your ass not mine
12/10/2012 1:54:31 PM EDT
[#27]
His user name I am assuming is A(ir)F(orce)2C(aliforina)H(iway)P(atrol).  I am sure a police officer will be fine.
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