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6/22/2012 11:29:02 AM EDT
Couple questions for the .458 owners out there.  I have TJ 16" carbine upper with vortex with plain free float hand gaurd on a spikes lower with RRA 2 stage trigger and A1 stock.  Now I am looking to put a low profile gas block on it and get a railed hand gaurd.  Unkown what length yet, don't know what the happy medium would be.  Also looking to put on a coplasable stock, have a regular m4 style sitting around but only with a regular buffer.  So what gass block to get and what stock combo would you go with?  Thanks and pictures are worth a 1000 words.  Will try to put a pic of mine up.
6/22/2012 1:34:20 PM EDT
[#1]
You did not say what size barrel you have.  On my TROMIX (same barrel as TJ) 16 inch CAR gassed I have a bull barrel and am using a PRI Lo-pro .936 gas block under a DD 14 inch lite rail.  It clears but only by a hair.  I use an ACE M4 SOCOM LONG stock (rifle buffer and spring) fixed into position with the 1/2 inch rubber recoil pad (one-inch pictured). The one-inch pad soaks up more recoil but the LOP is better for me with the 1/2 inch pad and the recoil difference is not that much.  Both the 1/2 and the 1 inch pad soaks up a lot of recoil. The standard M4 stock will auto collapse often if you are shooting heavy loads and there are only a few adjustable stocks that will hold up to the extra recoil of the SOCOM.  The ACE will NOT unless fixed into position with the supplied kit.  The MP ACS will as will some of the others.  On my lightweight SOCOM, under 7 pounds, I am going to run the MP CTR which is the ACW without storage.  A search on 458socomforums will turn up links on what stocks will and will not hold up.
On the SOCOM you do not need to run anything other than standard buffers and springs in the rifle as well as CAR type stocks.  It was designed to run with standard equipment and while some exotic buffers will work, many will lead to a jam-o-matic.  I rand the ACE M4 standard stock with the CAR buffer at first and when I switched to a HB in mine, it turned it into a single shot.  Standard CAR buffer runs just fine before and after I switched back.  Since the ACE SOCOM stock must be fixed, I went ahead and switched to the LONG M4 SOCOM stock and it runs a standard rifle buffer and spring.

6/22/2012 1:46:31 PM EDT
[#2]
I have a 16" RRA mid, on it is a 12" DD Lite rail.
Just a regular low-pro gas block under it.
Mil spec stock tube, a regular buffer, and a LMT sopmod.

6/22/2012 5:39:16 PM EDT
[#3]
carbine gassed 16 inch with .936 low pro gas block yhm rifle length light weight handguard. mag-pul ctr stock on mil-spec tube.



6/22/2012 7:44:24 PM EDT
[#4]
Nice scope.  That is the same one I have on two of my .458 SOCOMs now, my 16 inch (pictured with EOTech) and the 20 inch.  I sent them back to Leupold to have the parallax changed to 150 yards instead of 75 though.  A whopping $30 for both!  I wish those scopes would go on sale again at the NWTF because I would buy 4 more of them in a heart-beat.
6/23/2012 8:24:43 AM EDT
[#5]
Sorry it is a 16" barrel.  the 12" rail is good from what I see.  So the gas block clears?  Is the RRA barrel smaller than the TJ barrel?
6/23/2012 11:37:28 AM EDT
[#6]
here you go


6/23/2012 1:25:26 PM EDT
[#7]
That's a .936 barrel at the gas block.  So the VLTOR low pro, YHM lo-pro, and the PRI Lo-Pro should all fit under MOST handguards, but the only one I am saying for certain will fit under a DD Lite is the PRI low-pro on a .936 barrel.
TJ, TROMIX, and RR are all pretty much the same in regards to their profile when it comes to the bull barrel style, .936 at the gas block, CAR location except for some RR which are midlength.
6/23/2012 3:39:49 PM EDT
[#8]
thanks alot
6/24/2012 11:45:41 AM EDT
[#9]
RRA 16'' carbine with a RRA low pro varmint gas block and a 13'' Troy TRX extreme handguard.

6/25/2012 5:33:23 AM EDT
[#10]
Look into a VLTOR A5 stock system. It is designed to smooth out recoil with 5.56 systems, and with an A5H2 buffer, should do a great job of mimicking a rifle-length buffer in a collapsible stock.
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