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3/14/2012 9:53:53 PM EDT
I need help selecting a rifle. I am looking for a .308/7.62 rifle that is 40 inches or less in total length, has front and rear sights, and offers plenty of rail. What is there to say about a Colt? I've always wanted a pony. How about the SIg 716? Seems like a steal for the price. The HK MR762, does it even exist? A Scar H? How about the companies I know next to nothing about but continue to read rave reviews? The Larues, Knights, CMMGs.

Would I save a bunch and get more quality by building my own? I've never built a rifle before, could I accomplish a build with no more help than the AR15 message boards?

I know this isn't the place but I would consider anything that met the majority of my criteria ex. Ruger Gunsite Scout, Springfield Armory M1A, an FN SPR.

Thanks
3/14/2012 10:26:34 PM EDT
[#1]
What do you want to do with said rifle? Do you have a price range?



Are flip up sights ok?  When you say plenty of rail, for what?  Are modular rails ok, or do you want four full sides of rail on a long handguard?  Is weight important?



Building is not too hard with the right tools, and you can build a lot of rifle for the price, but there are some good factory values out there too...


 
3/15/2012 1:04:37 AM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
What do you want to do with said rifle? Do you have a price range?

Are flip up sights ok?  When you say plenty of rail, for what?  Are modular rails ok, or do you want four full sides of rail on a long handguard?  Is weight important?

Building is not too hard with the right tools, and you can build a lot of rifle for the price, but there are some good factory values out there too...
 


Here is my dilemma. First and foremost, I need a rifle in a caliber that would be at least proficient in moose hunting. Big first time hunt/hike in the planning phase. To complicate matters I don't own any firearms whatsoever. I have a very unrefined 5 year firearms purchase and instructed training plan. In terms of rifles I was thinking something along the lines of a .22 or .17, a semi  in 5.56, a semi in 7.62, and a long range bolt action in something like .338. Only the latter two would suit my needs. To make things worse my intended builds for the two are just not what I want to be lugging around through thick woods for 30 days even if it is strapped to the side of a pack.

Flip up sights would actually be preferable. My major concern with the iron sights is all the Remingtons, Sakos, and such I view that have no front sight at the end of the barrel. Is that something I could just have done at my local gunsmith for less than a Benjamin?

I'm set on at least a piccatiny rail on the top. Enough so that I could interchange a 12x +  scope, aimpoint, acog, or whatever assortment of sights I decided upon at whatever depths necessary. If there wasn't any side rail I would like enough on the top so that I could, at the very least, mount a flashlight on an offset. I'm unconcerned with what an abomination this might produce.

Since this will be my first rifle, and maybe my only for a a couple of years, I'm wanting to mix and match all sorts of accessories, techniques, and the like to get a feel for what I want in the future.

I don't have a set price. It sorta depends on how this rifle gets categorized. I don't think I want to spend any more than 1.5k on a bolt. For a semi 1.5k-2.5k seems like a nice range for something that will last a lifetime(s). I'd go as high as 4.5k and nix my initial 7.62 category all together if it seems unanimous that the Acme Solar Powered Nitrogen Cooled Plasma Rifle was the way to go.

In conclusion, I don't know if I'm trying to justify a bolt scout rifle set up like the Ruger GSR w/ the $100 extended rail and a ching sling or the 16'' or shorter barreled 7.62 that Lewis and Clark could only dream about.
3/15/2012 2:17:25 AM EDT
[#3]
If to really are going to be hiking around for a month with it the semi autos are way to heavy.

If you want to hunt moose with it is consider a rifle in a larger caliber then .308 (although my dad has shot moose with a .30-06 and it worked just fine.)

If it was me is look for a light bolt action in .338 federal.
3/16/2012 9:11:48 AM EDT
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Quoted:
If to really are going to be hiking around for a month with it the semi autos are way to heavy.

If you want to hunt moose with it is consider a rifle in a larger caliber then .308 (although my dad has shot moose with a .30-06 and it worked just fine.)

If it was me is look for a light bolt action in .338 federal.


It would only be a one moose sorta deal, by no means is this to be a dedicated hunting rifle of any sorts. If I wasn't going on this trip I would buy a 9mm semi handgun and then either a .22 rifle or a 5.56 ar as my first firearms. The reason I'm leaning towards .308 is that ammo price is a concern. I'm feeling quite ambitious in terms of the amount of ammunition I plan on using in the first year (in addition to saving 10-20% of what i buy). If there is any chance I'd cause a moose to suffer, even with a well placed shot, I'd certainly look at other calibers.

Weight isn't as much of a concern as length. I'm relatively young and if not in shape it's only more reason for extra weight.

I guess I'm more interested in the whats and whys behind how you all choose your rifles. Why is brand ABC the gold standard in lower receivers? What makes a good barrel besides the forging process? Why would I buy a bolt carrier from company XYZ but should never buy their miscombobulator.
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