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1/27/2012 11:40:47 PM EDT
Hi:
I am told that using the .223 caliber is a minimal at best when hog hunting. Anyone have any suggestions, I am set on sticking to the AR platform, but don't want to go crazy on spending money.
1/27/2012 11:55:35 PM EDT
[#1]
A 7.62x39 (AK-47 round) upper will do the job and can be had pretty cheap, but many are using .308's like a DPMS LR-308.
1/28/2012 2:04:49 AM EDT
[#2]
Go with a 308AR.  BIG hog sometimes need a bit more smash and it will give you a much longer effective range. There are cartridges that fit inthe AR15 platform but odds are the local shops won't stock ammo.  With a 308 it can be bought at the local Wally world or 7-11.
1/28/2012 2:06:54 AM EDT
[#3]
68 SPC, buy a new upper and some mags order some ammo from SSA or Wilson and go to town on piggies.
1/28/2012 2:15:49 AM EDT
[#4]
6.8 spc

110 gr Barnes TSX
1/28/2012 3:00:43 AM EDT
[#5]
I hunt pigs in TX regularly, and I usually use .308.  I've used .223, but prefer not to (bullet choice and shot placement become even more critical).  As others have said, 6.8 is good for a standard lower configuration.  I'd rather use 6.8 than .223, but I really prefer the .308.  One disadvantage of teh .308 AR is that they're ususally heavier, so this may be a factor depending on you style of hunting.
1/28/2012 4:12:02 AM EDT
[#6]
If you like your AR-15 for its light weight and versatility why not go with a .450 Bushmaster? It has plenty of power for hogs and deer out to 200 yards. The ammo is readily available but is expensive at $30/box. This is a very accurate round and can drop anything up to and including moose at 200 yards.
1/28/2012 4:40:49 AM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
Hi:
I am told that using the .223 caliber is a minimal at best when hog hunting. Anyone have any suggestions, I am set on sticking to the AR platform, but don't want to go crazy on spending money.


I use 6.8s and have killed some pretty large pigs. You can buy or build an upper at a reasonable price. They are a pleasure to shoot even for children. Ammo can be pricey but use your 223 for target practice.  This pig was 6feet nose to butt and was 48 inches around chest. 280-300lbs  1 shot with 110gr prohunter to the neck (you can see the hole in picture) He did not even flinch, DRT!



1/28/2012 5:09:12 AM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Hi:
I am told that using the .223 caliber is a minimal at best when hog hunting. Anyone have any suggestions, I am set on sticking to the AR platform, but don't want to go crazy on spending money.


I use 6.8s and have killed some pretty large pigs. You can buy or build an upper at a reasonable price. They are a pleasure to shoot even for children. Ammo can be pricey but use your 223 for target practice.  This pig was 6feet nose to butt and was 48 inches around chest. 280-300lbs  1 shot with 110gr prohunter to the neck (you can see the hole in picture) He did not even flinch, DRT!

http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l552/ar15teacher/meandhog.jpg

http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l552/ar15teacher/justhog.jpg


Nice!!!  How far away were you?

1/28/2012 5:47:12 AM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
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Quoted:
Hi:
I am told that using the .223 caliber is a minimal at best when hog hunting. Anyone have any suggestions, I am set on sticking to the AR platform, but don't want to go crazy on spending money.


I use 6.8s and have killed some pretty large pigs. You can buy or build an upper at a reasonable price. They are a pleasure to shoot even for children. Ammo can be pricey but use your 223 for target practice.  This pig was 6feet nose to butt and was 48 inches around chest. 280-300lbs  1 shot with 110gr prohunter to the neck (you can see the hole in picture) He did not even flinch, DRT!

http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l552/ar15teacher/meandhog.jpg

http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l552/ar15teacher/justhog.jpg


Nice!!!  How far away were you?  80 yards at 2am. Almost full moon. The leupold vxr 2x7 scope is excellent in the low light.



1/28/2012 5:53:58 AM EDT
[#10]
.50 Beowulf, FTW
1/28/2012 6:07:44 AM EDT
[#11]
450 Bushmaster deadly accurate
1/28/2012 6:36:46 AM EDT
[#12]
6.8 SPC is a great setup for hogs if you want to use your already existing AR platform.   All you need is an upper receiver and mags to go on your .223 lower.  (one upper for target and practice and one for hunting)  It was designed to work well in shorter 16" barrel guns so it helps to keep weight and length down to an easily managed gun.  6.8 is not all that heavy and not much recoil, so in that way it is more similar to 223 than other bigger calibers.  Still gets the job done out to 350 yards.
1/28/2012 6:51:26 AM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
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Hi:
I am told that using the .223 caliber is a minimal at best when hog hunting. Anyone have any suggestions, I am set on sticking to the AR platform, but don't want to go crazy on spending money.


I use 6.8s and have killed some pretty large pigs. You can buy or build an upper at a reasonable price. They are a pleasure to shoot even for children. Ammo can be pricey but use your 223 for target practice.  This pig was 6feet nose to butt and was 48 inches around chest. 280-300lbs  1 shot with 110gr prohunter to the neck (you can see the hole in picture) He did not even flinch, DRT!

http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l552/ar15teacher/meandhog.jpg

http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l552/ar15teacher/justhog.jpg


Nice!!!  How far away were you?



From the looks of the picture, about 2 feet?  

Sorry, could not resist...

1/28/2012 7:13:01 AM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
.50 Beowulf, FTW


Absolutely. We've dropped more than one big-ass hog with one round from the 50 Beowulf. The nice part is knowing before hand that the Wulf always does it's job.

If I had to stop a truck, let alone a big hog, from 150 yards I would be very confident in the 50 Beowulf.

Just my experience in sunny AZ!!!
1/28/2012 3:11:34 PM EDT
[#15]
6.8mm sounds like the way to go then... now anyone know of a good reliable upper in this caliber, I may even consider SBR on this route if possible....
1/28/2012 3:43:52 PM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
.50 Beowulf, FTW


Something about shooting a hog with the .50BW....


1/28/2012 3:52:21 PM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
6.8mm sounds like the way to go then... now anyone know of a good reliable upper in this caliber, I may even consider SBR on this route if possible....

AR Performance, Bison, Wilson Combat, White Oak Armament, Black Hole Weaponry, Rainier Arms, Daniel Defense (SPC II w/1:11 twist barrel) just to name a few.

1/28/2012 6:20:53 PM EDT
[#18]
Take a look here and here and then note that there are hundreds of posts just like these. The 6.8 is well proven for hogs. The only brand that WVHunter left out that I would recommend is Noveske.
1/29/2012 5:35:12 AM EDT
[#19]
458 Socom.
1/29/2012 6:16:43 AM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
Quoted:
6.8mm sounds like the way to go then... now anyone know of a good reliable upper in this caliber, I may even consider SBR on this route if possible....

AR Performance, Bison, Wilson Combat, White Oak Armament, Black Hole Weaponry, Rainier Arms, Daniel Defense (SPC II w/1:11 twist barrel) just to name a few.



What's wrong with Bushmaster?  I know they don't get much love but they've been around for a while and seem to make good uppers.
1/29/2012 6:54:25 AM EDT
[#21]
I have ARs in 223, 762x39, 300 Whisper, .308, 458S, ect....  The one I have grabbed the most and killed the most hogs with is my 762x39.  Had it for 5 yrs with no issues and is very accurate with Wolf Military Classic HP, made many hogs DRT and when I pull the trigger I never think about the cost or stop to pick up brass.  But when hunting alone or with one and shots 100yds or less I like using my 458 Socom Sub-Sonic Suppressed.
1/29/2012 7:16:25 AM EDT
[#22]
6.8 spc.  Stag makes a great one and now it has the m4 feedramps in them.  You can get them for the best deal $475 shipped from Pete at Legal Transfers.  Legal Transfers- Pete  He's on the form and you can find him in the Industry form or also in the EE.  I think he's one of the companies with the most positive feedback and longest running.   Great company.
1/29/2012 7:17:51 AM EDT
[#23]
450 BM is a hammer.
1/29/2012 8:48:11 AM EDT
[#24]
Like Fritzcat says....

If you're exterminating...A 7.62x39 and a case of Wolf HP.

If you're hunting trophy... a .458 Socom is nice to have.

Jack...
1/29/2012 11:32:02 AM EDT
[#25]
This little guy fell with one 300 gr ttsx from my 458 Socom. He weighed about 300 lbs. The second
hog weighed 260lbs. And he was dropped with an 85 gr. Tsx from my 6.8.

1/29/2012 4:34:46 PM EDT
[#26]
IMHO the best hog gun ever made in the AR platform is the .458 SOCOM.  Good out to 200 to 250 yards and with bullets from 100 to 600 gr.
1/29/2012 5:21:06 PM EDT
[#27]
I hunt hogs with a .223 quite often. If I had the money at the moment I would probably get a 300 blackout. I use the 60gr Vmax and usually have one shot stops on pigs from 75-150lbs. A guy I hunt with uses a 6.8spc and it is a great gun, until the 300 came out I was considering that as my next upper, but with a suppressor on the horizon and the increasing availability of 300AAC, well, it just kinda sealed the deal for me...


Daniel
1/31/2012 2:41:44 PM EDT
[#28]
I started out with a 458SOCOM, but quickly wanted more effective range(West Texas where I can sometimes see for a quarter mile).  I now use a 6?8 and don't miss the 458 at all, though it might look good with a n/v scope on top where ranges are limited.

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1/31/2012 3:53:50 PM EDT
[#29]
I have a dedicated 6.5Grendel for the Hogs.
1/31/2012 4:43:50 PM EDT
[#30]
Quoted:
Take a look here and here and then note that there are hundreds of posts just like these. The 6.8 is well proven for hogs. The only brand that WVHunter left out that I would recommend is Noveske.

Sorry  for delay & about Noveske!

Bushmaster, - It depends on if they Switched to SPC II & 4 groove 1:11 twist? Daniel Defense is currently making the switch to correct specs.


Oh, hogs have been taken with 85TSX to The 120SST. I have found the 95gr TTSX & 120gr SST to be most popular. But, that is an informal post observations.
1/31/2012 4:52:27 PM EDT
[#31]






TRG
1/31/2012 5:59:45 PM EDT
[#33]
.458 SOCOM for under 100yds and 6.8SPC or 7.62x40WT if you need more range. My 7.62x40WT 11.3" SBR suppressed is my regular hog gun shooting the new Barnes 110gr TTSX LV and is good for 175yds or so
1/31/2012 8:26:41 PM EDT
[#34]
I want to choose between 6.8 and 300blk for hogs.  16 inch lightweight barrel no suppressor.

Which will have better knock down with one shot at 100 yards and under?

I'm not talking about shot placement, a 22 pistol will make one shot stops behind the ear.  I'm talking about one shot stops, not necessarily one shot kills, with a center of mass hit.  

I will not shoot ammo that costs more than $1 for this use.
2/1/2012 6:31:54 AM EDT
[#35]


I'm 5' 11", I like long walks in a park, my favorite season is Spring, and mean people are a turn-off.

Interested?

TRG
2/1/2012 6:43:04 AM EDT
[#36]
Quoted:
I want to choose between 6.8 and 300blk for hogs.  16 inch lightweight barrel no suppressor.

Which will have better knock down with one shot at 100 yards and under?

I'm not talking about shot placement, a 22 pistol will make one shot stops behind the ear.  I'm talking about one shot stops, not necessarily one shot kills, with a center of mass hit.  

I will not shoot ammo that costs more than $1 for this use.


If you are not shooting a suppressor the 300blk is no where near the performance of 6.8
2/1/2012 8:26:02 PM EDT
[#37]
Someone showed me some interesting ballistic charts on the 6.5 today, it seems to deliver more energy at longer rage in some cases than the 6.8
I was also told there is more versatility in bullets due to the shorter case.
Anyone have any data on this?
2/3/2012 5:35:40 PM EDT
[#38]
from what I understand the 6.5 requires a longer barrel than 16" for better results than 6.8
2/3/2012 8:13:02 PM EDT
[#39]
Quoted:
...Go with a 308AR...


+1. Shreds porkers...
2/3/2012 9:20:27 PM EDT
[#40]
Quoted:
Someone showed me some interesting ballistic charts on the 6.5 today, it seems to deliver more energy at longer rage in some cases than the 6.8
I was also told there is more versatility in bullets due to the shorter case.
Anyone have any data on this?

I believe someone told you wrong about avail hunting bullets that will actually work in both cases.

2/4/2012 4:10:17 AM EDT
[#41]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Someone showed me some interesting ballistic charts on the 6.5 today, it seems to deliver more energy at longer rage in some cases than the 6.8
I was also told there is more versatility in bullets due to the shorter case.
Anyone have any data on this?

I believe someone told you wrong about avail hunting bullets that will actually work in both cases.

http://m.b5z.net/zirw/z18b2/i/u/6132121/i//68bullets36xl.jpg


Seems like every thread I click on in the variant forum has this. 270 bullet line up.  

Since when does a rifles veratility have any thing to do with just hunting.
2/4/2012 7:16:14 AM EDT
[#42]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Someone showed me some interesting ballistic charts on the 6.5 today, it seems to deliver more energy at longer rage in some cases than the 6.8
I was also told there is more versatility in bullets due to the shorter case.
Anyone have any data on this?

I believe someone told you wrong about avail hunting bullets that will actually work in both cases.

http://m.b5z.net/zirw/z18b2/i/u/6132121/i//68bullets36xl.jpg


Seems like every thread I click on in the variant forum has this. 270 bullet line up.  

Since when does a rifles veratility have any thing to do with just hunting.

I would say it's about posting and repeating correct information rather than rumors like this place is known for.
All but 4 of those buulets may be shot froma AR15 mag. The 105GS, 120 Barnes, 130 Nosler and 135SMK are for use in 6.8 bolt guns only.
IMO 130 is about max weight for the 6.8 or Grendel or any other cartridge with a 35gr case capacity.
That photo looks good doesn't it,
Thanks JerBear

2/4/2012 9:20:50 AM EDT
[#43]
Quoted:
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Someone showed me some interesting ballistic charts on the 6.5 today, it seems to deliver more energy at longer rage in some cases than the 6.8
I was also told there is more versatility in bullets due to the shorter case.
Anyone have any data on this?

I believe someone told you wrong about avail hunting bullets that will actually work in both cases.

http://m.b5z.net/zirw/z18b2/i/u/6132121/i//68bullets36xl.jpg


Seems like every thread I click on in the variant forum has this. 270 bullet line up.  

Since when does a rifles veratility have any thing to do with just hunting.

I would say it's about posting and repeating correct information rather than rumors like this place is know for.



Since I didn't see a rumor to dispell in the post you quoted, I'm putting my money on an extreme emotional attachment to the 6.8

2/4/2012 10:53:05 AM EDT
[#44]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
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Someone showed me some interesting ballistic charts on the 6.5 today, it seems to deliver more energy at longer rage in some cases than the 6.8
I was also told there is more versatility in bullets due to the shorter case.
Anyone have any data on this?

I believe someone told you wrong about avail hunting bullets that will actually work in both cases.

http://m.b5z.net/zirw/z18b2/i/u/6132121/i//68bullets36xl.jpg


Seems like every thread I click on in the variant forum has this. 270 bullet line up.  

Since when does a rifles veratility have any thing to do with just hunting.

I would say it's about posting and repeating correct information rather than rumors like this place is know for.



Since I didn't see a rumor to dispell it the post you quoted, I'm putting my money on an extreme emotional attatchment the 6.8


And the bullets that are actually usable in a grendel and AR15 platform are where?

2/4/2012 3:22:39 PM EDT
[#45]
I give up, The store?
2/5/2012 6:25:55 AM EDT
[#46]
6.8 or 7.62X40.
2/5/2012 6:28:38 AM EDT
[#47]
Quoted:
I want to choose between 6.8 and 300blk for hogs.  16 inch lightweight barrel no suppressor.

Which will have better knock down with one shot at 100 yards and under?

I'm not talking about shot placement, a 22 pistol will make one shot stops behind the ear.  I'm talking about one shot stops, not necessarily one shot kills, with a center of mass hit.  

I will not shoot ammo that costs more than $1 for this use.


The 6.8 is better in every aspect. Unless you are going to shoot subs out of a SBR, the 300wtf is useless imo.
2/6/2012 12:49:43 PM EDT
[#48]
30 Remington AR  ......... 150gn .............. my new favorite whitetail and hog rifle.  
2/7/2012 1:16:29 AM EDT
[#49]
30RAR. No brass or ammo in these parts. Stick with easy to find ammo that will be in supply for a long time. I like the round but it is no good if you can't buy it.
2/7/2012 5:35:18 AM EDT
[#50]
Quoted:
30RAR. No ... ammo in these parts.


LOL !!!  I guess I'm lucky since my local store stocks it and Sportsman's Warehouse in Cola has it from time to time.  Just yesterday, I picked up 2 boxes of 150gn CoreLok for a hog trip this weekend.  Heck, I've even had The Turkey Shoppe order me a case of it before.

But I do agree ...... Remington needs to get off their azz and sell the brass, and it can be hard to find if one doesn't look for it all the time ....... but for me, it's no worse than any of the other new 'AR-specific' calibers.

I'm told 6.8 went through these same headaches at first ............. hopefully 30RAR will make it.  I know I love it based on all the critters I've hunted with it.  If not DRT, the furtherest track job was 50yds and that was down hill. LOL !!!!!

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