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12/30/2010 12:35:05 PM EDT
Hello!

I am not sue if this is the correct forum, but I know no better one!

What are your opinions on the FNAR?

.308, short stroke system, light barrel, pistol grip, ( awkward stock :-( ), steel 5, 10 and 20 rd mags ( bit pricey :-/ ), lots of Picatinny rails on several places...

is it:

reliable?

accurate?

durable???

Would you buy one??

What should I watch out for??

Are there any aftermarket mags? ( = how do you think it will sell / how long will it be with us? )

THX, Hermann
12/30/2010 1:01:32 PM EDT
[#1]
Looked at them and decided not to buy one. Reasons would be I hate the grip/stock and it can not be changed. The price of the mags was the other big reason. I have not shot one but heard they were good shooters. Heard diff things about something about them being a pain to clean but not sure. There was a lot of posts on these under the FN section of the Armory but not sure if they are still there.

For $1300 ish I would rather get a 308 AR that could take cheap Magpul mags and I can change the parts when I want to.

Just my opinions
12/30/2010 1:05:15 PM EDT
[#2]
Doesn't the manual say that they need factory service every 1,000 rounds?
12/31/2010 4:45:19 AM EDT
[#3]
I bought one to use for varmints and casual target shooting and have no complaints other than extra magazines were hard to find at first (2008), but now they appear to be plentiful.

The rifle comes with 3 butt pads to adjust the length of pull, 3 different height check rests for eye alignment and spacers to adjust drop.  With a little tinkering I found the right combination and the gun now fits me fine.  The barrels are the same as on the FN Police and come in two contours, Medium and Heavy, with the 'medium' more realistically being a heavy barrel, and the 'heavy' being more of a bull barrel.   The mechanicals are pretty much the time tested Browning BAR and stone-nuts reliable, having been proven and fielded by hunters around the world for over 50 years.  

The heavy barrel is a little muzzle heavy, so I went with the medium and no disappointments.  It weighs about 8 pounds empty.

Mounted with a Burris XTR 312 and using Federal 168gr Gold Medal Match I realized 10 shot groups at 100 yrds with ATC of 0.80 consistently, with the best group being 0.41 and the worst at 1.15 MOA.  

Mine came with (1) 10 round and (1) 20 round magazine.  It took some time, but I was able to find (4) more 20 round magazines @ $39.00 each (MSRP is $48.00).

I must have missed the section in the manual where it says to return it to the factory for service at 1,000 rounds.  

I've put 400 rounds through mine with no malfunctions of any kind.  

I'm not aware of any aftermarket parts or magazines available for this rifle.  I don't believe they've sold enough of them for other manufactures to be interested.  I've also not run across anyone making bolt-on accessories specific to the gun.

Should they start making them in 300WM, as has been rumored, I'll be in line for that rifle, too.

12/31/2010 5:46:53 AM EDT
[#4]
Wow!

THX, good infos there!!

I would buy an AR, too, but we are not allowed.

Difficult cleaning? As lomg as i´s allowed and possible to take it apart without gunsmithing, I´ll clean it - squeaky clean, regardless of work involved!

Mags are a Problem, but I need only 2 2rounders ( hunting, may be converted from 10 rders ), 2 10 rd for bench use, and 5 20 rounders for ITSHTF ...

Yes, bbl seems heavy!

How are the TRIGGER and MAG RELEASE?

Happy new Year!

Hermann
12/31/2010 6:22:28 AM EDT
[#5]
Looks a lot like the BAR with magazine and grip added.  Is it the same design?
12/31/2010 6:33:45 AM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
Wow!

Difficult cleaning? As lomg as i´s allowed and possible to take it apart without gunsmithing, I´ll clean it - squeaky clean, regardless of work involved!

How are the TRIGGER and MAG RELEASE?

Hermann



The trigger is crisp and breaks at about 4-5#.  The mag release is positive and ambidextrous.  

The gun wasn't designed to be readily field stripped.  I did it when I first got it with no problems and the proper tools.  Like most of my guns, I clean the bolt face, bore snake after a trip to the range and light lube, but don't plan on field stripping it for a thorough cleaning except every 500-1000 rounds.

Here is a video that pretty much explains field stripping the AR.  I would have started by taking the scope off...

With the restrictions in your area, you may want to check into the Browning BAR.  It's available in a wide range of calibres, is also extremely accurate and if you're looking for a SHTF rifle, there are better choices than the FNAR

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLuznnkmy2k
1/2/2011 4:16:45 AM EDT
[#7]
It´s not for ITSHTF, for that I have an OA lower with RRA upper and CProducts and NHMTG mags ... Eotech in LaRue mount ... with BUISs.

Does anybody have pix of the stock with different cheekpieces?

The highest one seems to be fugly ... :-/

Hermann
1/2/2011 10:46:44 AM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
Looks a lot like the BAR with magazine and grip added.  Is it the same design?


From what I have read it is just an updated BAR, I beleive its pretty much the same as the new Winchester auto rifles which are made by FN

1/2/2011 11:39:15 AM EDT
[#9]
I had one for awhile....until I realized is was just too ugly.  Ended up selling it without ever firing it.

Tony Rumore
Tromix

1/3/2011 10:20:12 AM EDT
[#10]
What´s the basic magazine??

I mean, is it a reworked M 14 Mag, a rewoked FAL mag ( would be most appropriate ;-)), an AR 10 mag or a SR 25 mag or ...

And, next question qould be: is it possible, to convert as do it yourself?

Hermann

P.S.: agree about ugly. The AR has such classic lines, it´s really a Beauty! But if I have no choice ....
1/3/2011 4:51:51 PM EDT
[#11]
I'd look for a DPMS/ARMALITE/LMT/whoever else makes an AR in 308 simply for the support.  Im not saying FN doesnt provide support but check out an exploded diagram of that thing, its like a swiss watch!  The trigger group alone is pretty complex compared to say an AR-10.  The FN AR mags are propritary last I checked.  That I disliked too.





I would look elsewhere, my 2 cents.






 
1/7/2011 11:04:48 AM EDT
[#12]
THX to all!

Yes, if I can legally get an AR in 308 I´ll get it!

If not could somebody of you suggest me a Scout Rifle in .308 on a Win 70 CRF action with stripper clip loading and 10 rd mag capacity? With a long Picatinny rail above and in front of the action and a Weaver rail on the rear bridge, and iron sights, too ( or Warne Peep ).

;-)

Hermann
1/18/2011 1:39:15 PM EDT
[#13]
Looks like FNH is adding another semi auto 308 FNAR type rifle. It looks like a SPR but semi auto. Comes in McMillan stock.
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