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12/17/2010 12:32:00 PM EDT
I was in a gun shop recently and viewed an AR carbine that was a 7.62 and was modified to take ak 47 mags.  The shop owner said Special Arms out of Mesa AZ made the rifle.  I tried looking them up with no luck.  Are they out of business or have changed their name?  Does any one know any thing about this company or one that may currently produce the same rifle configuation?
12/17/2010 1:14:31 PM EDT
[#1]
They're out of business.  For good reason.  I've got one of their AR47 lowers and it won't take any upper I own, too much distance between the pin holes.  From what I understand, SW had a lot of other issues with their other products as well.
12/17/2010 1:49:31 PM EDT
[#2]
Distance in which direction? When KAC built the SR-47 they needed a slightly longer upper to accommodate the magazine length, did Special Weapons do this?.

But here's some gun porn:

AR47


SR47
12/17/2010 2:11:36 PM EDT
[#3]




Quoted:

Distance in which direction? When KAC built the SR-47 they needed a slightly longer upper to accommodate the magazine length, did Special Weapons do this?.



But here's some gun porn:



AR47

http://inlinethumb17.webshots.com/11152/2726699370058660536S600x600Q85.jpg



SR47

http://inlinethumb19.webshots.com/46226/2173612270058660536S600x600Q85.jpg


The distance between takedown pins on the lower is too long, so basically the same thing as the SR47. Except from what I've seen SW was claiming any 7.62x39 upper would work on their lower.  This might just be an issue with only a few of their lowers, I don't know.  I just know that the individual I bought this from stated they had the same issue with their other lower.  



Another issue with it is the lack of provisions for a detent for the pivot pin. I'll get it all taken care of eventually, just too many other projects at hand right not.

12/17/2010 2:13:06 PM EDT
[#4]
Michaels Machines made them for Special weapons...they parted ways......go figure.....my understanding is that the ones made by Micheals machines were/are a good qaulity one. they still make them actually, but as themselves not for the Toad.

Hesse also made some......run away from these unless you have machine equipment and want a lower you WILL have to work on, and then it may eventually work...maybe......
12/17/2010 2:29:06 PM EDT
[#5]




Quoted:

Michaels Machines made them for Special weapons...they parted ways......go figure.....my understanding is that the ones made by Micheals machines were/are a good qaulity one. they still make them actually, but as themselves not for the Toad.



Hesse also made some......run away from these unless you have machine equipment and want a lower you WILL have to work on, and then it may eventually work...maybe......
Actually, mine might be a Vulcan.  I'll have to look when I get home.



12/17/2010 2:33:49 PM EDT
[#6]



Quoted:


Distance in which direction? When KAC built the SR-47 they needed a slightly longer upper to accommodate the magazine length, did Special Weapons do this?.



But here's some gun porn:



AR47

http://inlinethumb17.webshots.com/11152/2726699370058660536S600x600Q85.jpg



SR47

http://inlinethumb19.webshots.com/46226/2173612270058660536S600x600Q85.jpg


wow, i never knew KAC made one.  I assume they don't still produce these?  Anybody know where to find one?



 
12/17/2010 3:01:21 PM EDT
[#7]




Quoted:





Quoted:

Distance in which direction? When KAC built the SR-47 they needed a slightly longer upper to accommodate the magazine length, did Special Weapons do this?.



But here's some gun porn:



AR47

http://inlinethumb17.webshots.com/11152/2726699370058660536S600x600Q85.jpg



SR47

http://inlinethumb19.webshots.com/46226/2173612270058660536S600x600Q85.jpg


wow, i never knew KAC made one. I assume they don't still produce these? Anybody know where to find one?



They only made 7.  Six went to SOCOM.  The other one was retained by Knights.

12/17/2010 4:42:56 PM EDT
[#8]
The Vulcan/Hesse ones had issues.
I have an AR-47 lower from Michaels Machines / Michael Otto / AR-47.com
http://www.ar-47.com/
This has worked fine for me, in full auto as well w/ a RDIAS.

I've run mine in full auto in various 7.62x39 configurations using AK mags  and drums.
I also modified my AR-47 lower to accept AK-74 ammo.

Here is a video of it running:
http://www.livevideo.com/video/CF8638F6050D4502A1D3535EA3E51E16/5-45x39mm-upper.aspx

Later when MGI came out with their AK-74 magwell, I just using the MGI now for both 7.62x39 and 5.45x39 configurations.  Both using AK drums and mags.
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