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1/21/2010 6:52:12 PM EDT
Well I have a chance to pick one up for $3399 I was thinking of trading my dsa fal 16 in and a rock river ar 15
the dealer said that he would give me 1000 for the dsa and 700 for the rock river....I am looking for a little push one way are the
another I just cant pull the "trigger" for some reason I know the repr is one nasty rifle you can feel the quality when you hold it
just don't know

I know the arfcom way is to buy the repr and keep the other rifles just cant
1/21/2010 7:32:21 PM EDT
[#1]
I've handled the REPR and I agree...it exudes massive quality. However, $3,500 seems nuts for that rifle. Why not just build a nice DPMS with a Kreiger barrel or something. Or get a GA Precision? It will be at least a $1K cheaper. If you have the disposable income,definitely do it, though it doesn't sound like it from the fact you have to sell two guns to justify it. Think about it, almost three and a half THOUSAND dollars for that rifle. Very few rifles to me justify that kind of cost.

1/21/2010 7:55:58 PM EDT
[#2]
All new .308 have glitches when the first come out...

I finally got my POF P-308 running smoothly and reliably (it was the magazines/PMAGs saved my rifle) and its so freakin hot I forgot about ordering a REPR and my fun store wants me to pick it up or give it up...

I'm thinking about letting it go as I don't need another semi .308...now

My LWRC M6A2 is a great weapon but is set up in FA so there's a lot more fun to be had.

$3500? I can buy a NIB M10 .45 and spend a little on a Lage upper and have a lot more fun then the REPR will ever be.

I'm just sayin'
1/21/2010 8:23:01 PM EDT
[#3]
I agree with everyone above. Te REPR is super nice, but WAY ovrpriced.
1/22/2010 3:40:01 AM EDT
[#4]
The OBR is over $3,000.00 also.
I believe the LMT will be as well.
LWRCI isn't the lone ranger.
1/22/2010 3:55:37 AM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
The OBR is over $3,000.00 also.
I believe the LMT will be as well.
LWRCI isn't the lone ranger.


They're still over $500 cheaper, and in this example $400. For firearms and whatever we might throw it around, but $400 is a fair amount of money just to tack on for nothing. It could be spent on a flashlight, can, ammo, towards a better scope, a totally kickass knife. I don't know. Again, just my $0.02.
1/22/2010 7:31:00 AM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
$3500? I can buy a NIB M10 .45 and spend a little on a Lage upper and have a lot more fun then the REPR will ever be.

I'm just sayin'


This is my sentiment.  If I spend that kind of dough, I'm either getting a FA toy or a precision bolt rig.
1/22/2010 9:14:18 AM EDT
[#7]
I bought the 20 inch reper. It's awesome. Some feature's I wanted but could not find anywhere else for the price was the side charging handle, piston gas system and the ability to turn the gas completely off and run the gun like a bolt action is awesome.

If accuracy is the same as the Larue 308 (from what I've experienced it is) I'd still say the Reper is a better buy due to the added features.

Mine is set up with a larue SPR mount and a L M4 3-9 TMR. All I need now is a bipod and it's complete.

Here's my first 11 shots out of the gun. The 2 in the 7 ring at 4 o clock were paki surplus to get the scope close. The other 9 rounds were black hills 168 match at 100 yards.
Gas setting was on normal operation.


1/22/2010 9:27:19 AM EDT
[#8]
I never thought my JP LRP-07 would be a "value priced" 308!  
1/22/2010 2:08:07 PM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
The OBR is over $3,000.00 also.
I believe the LMT will be as well.
LWRCI isn't the lone ranger.


LMT has it listed on the website at $2500...

LMT 308

If I wasn't working on an AR-10, I would be giving this some serious consideration....
1/22/2010 4:57:30 PM EDT
[#10]
saw a REPR in a gun shop in FL the other day.  It was like 3500 or 3600.  Way over priced.  No one needs a piston gun first off.  I have a RRA 308 and very pleased with it, and it cost me 1150 with shipping and all.
1/22/2010 8:40:09 PM EDT
[#11]
I'm happy with my REPR and it sees more use than my SR25s, including the Mk11 Mod 0.  $3400ish isn't a bad price for the rifle when you think about the amount of R&D that went into it.

REPR Vid

REPR Vid 2
1/23/2010 1:11:45 AM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
I'm happy with my REPR and it sees more use than my SR25s, including the Mk11 Mod 0.  $3400ish isn't a bad price for the rifle when you think about the amount of R&D that went into it.

REPR Vid

REPR Vid 2


I agree with this.  This is not just another .308 AR built to be just different enough to avoid a lawsuit or licensing.  This rifle is on a whole new level.
1/23/2010 6:16:17 AM EDT
[#13]
I spoke the LWRC people for a bi at SHOT and asked about the pricing because in the end, they are REALLY expensive. They said they are working on getting the pricing down but have to start selling more volume in order to do so. I'm not sure that it works that way from an economics/supply and demand standpoint, but whatever. I told them if they'd sell me one for $3K, I'd pay for it right then and there and I thibnk they thought about it, but no bites. So, when/if they can get their price a little closer to earth than the moon, I'd gladly send them some money because as stated above, it looks to be an excellent rifle,.
1/23/2010 7:01:45 AM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
I bought the 20 inch reper. It's awesome. Some feature's I wanted but could not find anywhere else for the price was the side charging handle, piston gas system and the ability to turn the gas completely off and run the gun like a bolt action is awesome.

If accuracy is the same as the Larue 308 (from what I've experienced it is) I'd still say the Reper is a better buy due to the added features.

Mine is set up with a larue SPR mount and a L M4 3-9 TMR. All I need now is a bipod and it's complete.

Here's my first 11 shots out of the gun. The 2 in the 7 ring at 4 o clock were paki surplus to get the scope close. The other 9 rounds were black hills 168 match at 100 yards.
Gas setting was on normal operation.

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z280/azc1967/IMG_5228.jpg


Um,
I don't think I wd. have posted that target.
If any of my guns shoot that shitty, they aren't mine.
I have an OBR on order.
They are guaranteed sub MOA.
That make$$$ it worth i to me.
1/23/2010 8:19:27 AM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I bought the 20 inch reper. It's awesome. Some feature's I wanted but could not find anywhere else for the price was the side charging handle, piston gas system and the ability to turn the gas completely off and run the gun like a bolt action is awesome.

If accuracy is the same as the Larue 308 (from what I've experienced it is) I'd still say the Reper is a better buy due to the added features.

Mine is set up with a larue SPR mount and a L M4 3-9 TMR. All I need now is a bipod and it's complete.

Here's my first 11 shots out of the gun. The 2 in the 7 ring at 4 o clock were paki surplus to get the scope close. The other 9 rounds were black hills 168 match at 100 yards.
Gas setting was on normal operation.

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z280/azc1967/IMG_5228.jpg


Um,
I don't think I wd. have posted that target.
If any of my guns shoot that shitty, they aren't mine.
I have an OBR on order.
They are guaranteed sub MOA.
That make$$$ it worth i to me.



First 10 rounds out of a gun with new glass and mount? I will clearly state any inaccuracy at this point is due to me shooting a new gun and scope trying to dial it in. That's a 5 inch target with the largest grouping at 3.5 inches using the BH ammo.

Post some pics of your first 10 shots big guy!

You're so bad ass.

1/23/2010 9:03:17 AM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
I bought the 20 inch reper. It's awesome. Some feature's I wanted but could not find anywhere else for the price was the side charging handle, piston gas system and the ability to turn the gas completely off and run the gun like a bolt action is awesome.

If accuracy is the same as the Larue 308 (from what I've experienced it is) I'd still say the Reper is a better buy due to the added features.

Mine is set up with a larue SPR mount and a L M4 3-9 TMR. All I need now is a bipod and it's complete.

Here's my first 11 shots out of the gun. The 2 in the 7 ring at 4 o clock were paki surplus to get the scope close. The other 9 rounds were black hills 168 match at 100 yards.
Gas setting was on normal operation.

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z280/azc1967/IMG_5228.jpg


Um,
I don't think I wd. have posted that target.
If any of my guns shoot that shitty, they aren't mine.
I have an OBR on order.
They are guaranteed sub MOA.
That make$$$ it worth i to me.



First 10 rounds out of a gun with new glass and mount? I will clearly state any inaccuracy at this point is due to me shooting a new gun and scope trying to dial it in. That's a 5 inch target with the largest grouping at 3.5 inches using the BH ammo.

Post some pics of your first 10 shots big guy!

You're so bad ass.



Well, we all now know why you settle for a 3.5" group @ 100 yrds. out of a $3,000.00+ weapon and a Mark4 scope, match ammo.
Groovy man!

1/23/2010 9:09:34 AM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
I bought the 20 inch reper. It's awesome. Some feature's I wanted but could not find anywhere else for the price was the side charging handle, piston gas system and the ability to turn the gas completely off and run the gun like a bolt action is awesome.

If accuracy is the same as the Larue 308 (from what I've experienced it is) I'd still say the Reper is a better buy due to the added features.

Mine is set up with a larue SPR mount and a L M4 3-9 TMR. All I need now is a bipod and it's complete.

Here's my first 11 shots out of the gun. The 2 in the 7 ring at 4 o clock were paki surplus to get the scope close. The other 9 rounds were black hills 168 match at 100 yards.
Gas setting was on normal operation.

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z280/azc1967/IMG_5228.jpg


Um,
I don't think I wd. have posted that target.
If any of my guns shoot that shitty, they aren't mine.
I have an OBR on order.
They are guaranteed sub MOA.
That make$$$ it worth i to me.



First 10 rounds out of a gun with new glass and mount? I will clearly state any inaccuracy at this point is due to me shooting a new gun and scope trying to dial it in. That's a 5 inch target with the largest grouping at 3.5 inches using the BH ammo.

Post some pics of your first 10 shots big guy!

You're so bad ass.



Well, we all now know why you settle for a 3.5" group @ 100 yrds. out of a $3,000.00+ weapon and a Mark4 scope, match ammo.
Groovy man!



Come on Internet commando. Put up or shut up. Do you even have 3k to buy a rifle? Will mom let you spend that much of her money?
1/23/2010 9:13:07 AM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
I bought the 20 inch reper. It's awesome. Some feature's I wanted but could not find anywhere else for the price was the side charging handle, piston gas system and the ability to turn the gas completely off and run the gun like a bolt action is awesome.

If accuracy is the same as the Larue 308 (from what I've experienced it is) I'd still say the Reper is a better buy due to the added features.

Mine is set up with a larue SPR mount and a L M4 3-9 TMR. All I need now is a bipod and it's complete.

Here's my first 11 shots out of the gun. The 2 in the 7 ring at 4 o clock were paki surplus to get the scope close. The other 9 rounds were black hills 168 match at 100 yards.
Gas setting was on normal operation.

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z280/azc1967/IMG_5228.jpg




Um,
I don't think I wd. have posted that target.
If any of my guns shoot that shitty, they aren't mine.
I have an OBR on order.
They are guaranteed sub MOA.
That make$$$ it worth i to me.



First 10 rounds out of a gun with new glass and mount? I will clearly state any inaccuracy at this point is due to me shooting a new gun and scope trying to dial it in. That's a 5 inch target with the largest grouping at 3.5 inches using the BH ammo.

Post some pics of your first 10 shots big guy!

You're so bad ass.



Well, we all now know why you settle for a 3.5" group @ 100 yrds. out of a $3,000.00+ weapon and a Mark4 scope, match ammo.
Groovy man!



Come on Internet commando. Put up or shut up. Do you even have 3k to buy a rifle? Will mom let you spend that much of her money?


My mom died 20yrs. ago from cancer.

1/23/2010 9:21:22 AM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
I spoke the LWRC people for a bi at SHOT and asked about the pricing because in the end, they are REALLY expensive. They said they are working on getting the pricing down but have to start selling more volume in order to do so. I'm not sure that it works that way from an economics/supply and demand standpoint, but whatever. I told them if they'd sell me one for $3K, I'd pay for it right then and there and I thibnk they thought about it, but no bites. So, when/if they can get their price a little closer to earth than the moon, I'd gladly send them some money because as stated above, it looks to be an excellent rifle,.



+1
1/23/2010 9:28:46 AM EDT
[#20]
I would make the trade if you really wanted the rifle, but that price is hard to swallow
1/23/2010 6:49:58 PM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I spoke the LWRC people for a bi at SHOT and asked about the pricing because in the end, they are REALLY expensive. They said they are working on getting the pricing down but have to start selling more volume in order to do so. I'm not sure that it works that way from an economics/supply and demand standpoint, but whatever. I told them if they'd sell me one for $3K, I'd pay for it right then and there and I thibnk they thought about it, but no bites. So, when/if they can get their price a little closer to earth than the moon, I'd gladly send them some money because as stated above, it looks to be an excellent rifle,.



+1


and that is my big problem is next month it better not be 2500 dollars
1/23/2010 7:54:27 PM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:

Um,
I don't think I wd. have posted that target.
If any of my guns shoot that shitty, they aren't mine.
I have an OBR on order.
They are guaranteed sub MOA.
That make$$$ it worth i to me.


Some people just have to be dicks...  Seriously dude why don't you just take it easy?
1/23/2010 8:01:24 PM EDT
[#23]
I think your giving up to much.  Patience, you know the price is gonna come down.  That is A FREAKIN BADASS GUN!
1/25/2010 9:51:28 PM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:
Quoted:
The OBR is over $3,000.00 also.
I believe the LMT will be as well.
LWRCI isn't the lone ranger.


LMT has it listed on the website at $2500...

LMT 308

If I wasn't working on an AR-10, I would be giving this some serious consideration....


I talked to one of the LMT reps at the Shot Show for a while. I handled and fondled the new LMT .308 for about 20 minutes. It was amazing how nice it felt and almost felt to small to fire a .308 but they did it. Yes he said retail would be $2,500, but that DEALER COST WOULD BE $1,800. That is a huge margin and I would imagine once their out and the initial hype is over you will probably see these going for $2,000-$2,200.
1/26/2010 12:47:25 AM EDT
[#25]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I bought the 20 inch reper. It's awesome. Some feature's I wanted but could not find anywhere else for the price was the side charging handle, piston gas system and the ability to turn the gas completely off and run the gun like a bolt action is awesome.

If accuracy is the same as the Larue 308 (from what I've experienced it is) I'd still say the Reper is a better buy due to the added features.

Mine is set up with a larue SPR mount and a L M4 3-9 TMR. All I need now is a bipod and it's complete.

Here's my first 11 shots out of the gun. The 2 in the 7 ring at 4 o clock were paki surplus to get the scope close. The other 9 rounds were black hills 168 match at 100 yards.
Gas setting was on normal operation.

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z280/azc1967/IMG_5228.jpg


Um,
I don't think I wd. have posted that target.
If any of my guns shoot that shitty, they aren't mine.
I have an OBR on order.
They are guaranteed sub MOA.
That make$$$ it worth i to me.


he hasnt even broke barrel in first 11 shots as he said...  i wouldnt have really botherd posting first 11 shots because they wont be accurate but to be critical of a group before he is on box 2 of ammo doesnt say anything bad about the rifle just doesnt look good on you.
1/26/2010 4:13:33 AM EDT
[#26]
NIB

http://larueosr.com/images/view.aspx?productId=148&index=7
1/26/2010 5:22:41 AM EDT
[#27]
Quoted:
saw a REPR in a gun shop in FL the other day.  It was like 3500 or 3600.  Way over priced.  No one needs a piston gun first off.  I have a RRA 308 and very pleased with it, and it cost me 1150 with shipping and all.


Thats steep....even for a piston.

I'd buy a Larue OBR over that.
1/26/2010 9:21:12 AM EDT
[#28]


Really? You're really posting that?

You're calling someone else's groups crap and when asked to put up or shut up you post a picture that shows a group that was done with the rifle in a vise in very controlled conditions which has nothing at all to do with how you would/could shoot the rifle?

Now, you can go and say you were referring to something else, but we all know that you weren't. Thanks for playing.
1/26/2010 9:39:59 AM EDT
[#29]


To me, this is more evidence that the REPR is reasonably priced for a newly designed weapon.  For an additional $500 you get troy iron sights ($200) and a UBR (+$125 over CTR), which leaves only a $175 dollar difference to cover the left side charging handle and right side bolt release.  This is not saying anything at all bad about the OBR, just that no one seems to be complaining about paying $3k for it, whereas people are acting like $3500 for the REPR is absolutely outrageous.
1/26/2010 9:49:26 AM EDT
[#30]
My personal opinion is that $3K+ for an autoloading .308 is ridiculous.  I've got about $2.5K in my .308 autoloader, and that's with glass, mount, match trigger, upgraded grips & buttstock, etc., and it is sub-MOA, even with me driving the thing (and I'm no expert shooter).  $3.5K is approaching the cost of a nice precision bolt gun, and for that much money, that's what I'd be buying.

Again - my opinion - yes, I have a .308 autoloader, and if I had unlimited money, I would probably buy one of each of the expensive ones.
1/26/2010 9:52:39 AM EDT
[#31]
Quoted:


To me, this is more evidence that the REPR is reasonably priced for a newly designed weapon.  For an additional $500 you get troy iron sights ($200) and a UBR (+$125 over CTR), which leaves only a $175 dollar difference to cover the left side charging handle and right side bolt release.  This is not saying anything at all bad about the OBR, just that no one seems to be complaining about paying $3k for it, whereas people are acting like $3500 for the REPR is absolutely outrageous.


You make a good point, hwever, many many people (icluding me) only paid $2500 for their OBR. Also, you have to consider the LaRue manufactured mags that come with the OBR (as opposed to C Products with the REPR), the monolithic upper on the OBR, the Geisselle trigger
that is standard on the OBR, the Gas Buster charging handle that is standard, etc...

When you factor all of that in, you are actually paying a TON for the side charging handle (especially at the $2500 OBR price.) I my opinion, for $3500, the REPR should AT LEAST come standard with a Geisselle trigger, and should definitely come with some better quality mags.
1/26/2010 10:08:05 AM EDT
[#32]
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My personal opinion is that $3K+ for an autoloading .308 is ridiculous.  I've got about $2.5K in my .308 autoloader, and that's with glass, mount, match trigger, upgraded grips & buttstock, etc., and it is sub-MOA, even with me driving the thing (and I'm no expert shooter).  $3.5K is approaching the cost of a nice precision bolt gun, and for that much money, that's what I'd be buying.

Again - my opinion - yes, I have a .308 autoloader, and if I had unlimited money, I would probably buy one of each of the expensive ones.


If you think $3k is expensive, you don't even want to know what you'd have to pay for a KAC .308 gun...

As is often the case in the gun world, value is relative to desire, not utility.
1/26/2010 11:45:37 AM EDT
[#33]
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My personal opinion is that $3K+ for an autoloading .308 is ridiculous.  I've got about $2.5K in my .308 autoloader, and that's with glass, mount, match trigger, upgraded grips & buttstock, etc., and it is sub-MOA, even with me driving the thing (and I'm no expert shooter).  $3.5K is approaching the cost of a nice precision bolt gun, and for that much money, that's what I'd be buying.

Again - my opinion - yes, I have a .308 autoloader, and if I had unlimited money, I would probably buy one of each of the expensive ones.


If you think $3k is expensive, you don't even want to know what you'd have to pay for a KAC .308 gun...

As is often the case in the gun world, value is relative to desire, not utility.


Oh, I'm aware of KAC's prices. I'm just saying that for my use, my .308 serves me well, and that spending lots more than I already have would not be smart.
1/26/2010 10:33:23 PM EDT
[#34]
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To me, this is more evidence that the REPR is reasonably priced for a newly designed weapon.  For an additional $500 you get troy iron sights ($200) and a UBR (+$125 over CTR), which leaves only a $175 dollar difference to cover the left side charging handle and right side bolt release.  This is not saying anything at all bad about the OBR, just that no one seems to be complaining about paying $3k for it, whereas people are acting like $3500 for the REPR is absolutely outrageous.


You make a good point, hwever, many many people (icluding me) only paid $2500 for their OBR. Also, you have to consider the LaRue manufactured mags that come with the OBR (as opposed to C Products with the REPR), the monolithic upper on the OBR, the Geisselle trigger
that is standard on the OBR, the Gas Buster charging handle that is standard, etc...

When you factor all of that in, you are actually paying a TON for the side charging handle (especially at the $2500 OBR price.) I my opinion, for $3500, the REPR should AT LEAST come standard with a Geisselle trigger, and should definitely come with some better quality mags.


From what I recall the REPRs at SHOT had Geissele triggers in them.  I really liked the REPR, the forend is great, the controls are in excellent positions, and the Side charging handle was pretty neat (should mean less gas in the face when suppressed).  $3500 in my opinion is too much for a .308 semi.  $2500 would be reasonable, given the geissele trigger, troy sights and UBR.  In my opinion the Larue is over priced at $3K.  I know a couple individuals with DPMS SASS rifles ($1700 brand new, with irons, PRS, and Harris bi-pod) and their DPMS rifles shoot 1/2 inch groups regularly.
1/27/2010 5:30:43 AM EDT
[#35]
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All new .308 have glitches when the first come out...I finally got my POF P-308 running smoothly and reliably (it was the magazines/PMAGs saved my rifle) and its so freakin hot I forgot about ordering a REPR and my fun store wants me to pick it up or give it up...

I'm thinking about letting it go as I don't need another semi .308...now

My LWRC M6A2 is a great weapon but is set up in FA so there's a lot more fun to be had.

$3500? I can buy a NIB M10 .45 and spend a little on a Lage upper and have a lot more fun then the REPR will ever be.

I'm just sayin'


The colored statement is just not true.If you bought a factory made rifle & it did not work ,it should be sent back . My builds function flawlessly right out of the gate( and I'm not special ) . Its attention to detail that makes a rifle function & shoot well & quality parts of course.

The price of the rifle mentioned is basically for custom rifle and is priced accordingly . If you like it buy it ,don't we all .

I personally believe the piston  systems in a DI designed frame is yet to be determined as to how well it holds up . Side charging handles are nice ,but which side of the rifle is better ? The std  M16/AR15 charging handle is ambidextrous. my 2

1/27/2010 4:39:48 PM EDT
[#36]
The 18" and 20" REPR's have Geiselle triggers and are the ones that MSRP at ~$3600 (actually $3575, street). The 16" and 12" run over $200 cheaper ($3400 MSRP / $3385 street) which is easily accounted for by a VLTOR EMOD stock and "enhanced milspec trigger" versus the upgraded UBR/PRS and Geiselle options on their med-heavy configurations.

Don't forget that the REPR also has a piston system and three position gas block. Probably not worth anything to most people, but for the remaining balance of price differences between the goodies that makes the REPR a better deal IMO.  I'm not a huge fan of the LaRue rail and I wanted a piston gun so the decision was easy for me.

Using the introductory pricing for the OBR for comparison to another rifle's MSRP is ridiculous. The REPR had intro pricing as well and the margin between the two in some case was even less than the $600 between MSRP's so there goes that argument (unless you got the LaRue spoils, of course).

In all reality these are two great products that are neck-in-neck for the features and price points, but I give the slight edge to the REPR for having both more features and a large amount of innovation (side charger, piston, gas block, rail system, etc). I am a huge LaRue fan as every single one of my optics wears LaRue gear and I would absolutely love to have a LaRue 7.62 rifle in the safe. I was really disappointed in the rail on the OBR. If they had a more traditional quad rail setup (or at least the option to add more rails, like the REPR) I would probably have been in line for an OBR as well. The guaranteed MOA and the extra LaRue mag are nice touches.

Overall I think the .308 ARs that are new to the market are all a bit overpriced (maybe 10%-20%), but they are priced well relative to one another given the features, fit, and finish. In today's market this is to be expected for new rifles with a ton of R&D and tooling invested at least until the sales volumes pick up...or you can break the mold and go the KAC route. I've been known to plunk down stoopid-money to get something rare or special that I just "got to have"...but that is just whack.

- Joe

1/27/2010 11:29:03 PM EDT
[#37]
Quoted:
Well I have a chance to pick one up for $3399 I was thinking of trading my dsa fal 16 in and a rock river ar 15
the dealer said that he would give me 1000 for the dsa and 700 for the rock river....I am looking for a little push one way are the
another I just cant pull the "trigger" for some reason I know the repr is one nasty rifle you can feel the quality when you hold it
just don't know

I know the arfcom way is to buy the repr and keep the other rifles just cant


Back on topic


NO way
I think you are taking way toooo much of a hit on the dsa
The RRA is OK,

The weapon is too much $$$$  especially when you have a fal

BTW    what config. did you want



I want the repr and would get it in the $3000 20in config shipped price range

1/27/2010 11:30:14 PM EDT
[#38]
double tap
1/28/2010 12:56:44 PM EDT
[#39]
Do want 12" REPR.

1/28/2010 7:59:42 PM EDT
[#40]
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I bought the 20 inch reper. It's awesome. Some feature's I wanted but could not find anywhere else for the price was the side charging handle, piston gas system and the ability to turn the gas completely off and run the gun like a bolt action is awesome.

If accuracy is the same as the Larue 308 (from what I've experienced it is) I'd still say the Reper is a better buy due to the added features.

Mine is set up with a larue SPR mount and a L M4 3-9 TMR. All I need now is a bipod and it's complete.

Here's my first 11 shots out of the gun. The 2 in the 7 ring at 4 o clock were paki surplus to get the scope close. The other 9 rounds were black hills 168 match at 100 yards.
Gas setting was on normal operation.

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z280/azc1967/IMG_5228.jpg


Um,
I don't think I wd. have posted that target.
If any of my guns shoot that shitty, they aren't mine.
I have an OBR on order.
They are guaranteed sub MOA.
That make$$$ it worth i to me.



First 10 rounds out of a gun with new glass and mount? I will clearly state any inaccuracy at this point is due to me shooting a new gun and scope trying to dial it in. That's a 5 inch target with the largest grouping at 3.5 inches using the BH ammo.

Post some pics of your first 10 shots big guy!

You're so bad ass.



Well, we all now know why you settle for a 3.5" group @ 100 yrds. out of a $3,000.00+ weapon and a Mark4 scope, match ammo.
Groovy man!



Well Mr Hot Shot show us your ten shot groups.
 
1/28/2010 9:12:04 PM EDT
[#41]
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I bought the 20 inch reper. It's awesome. Some feature's I wanted but could not find anywhere else for the price was the side charging handle, piston gas system and the ability to turn the gas completely off and run the gun like a bolt action is awesome.

If accuracy is the same as the Larue 308 (from what I've experienced it is) I'd still say the Reper is a better buy due to the added features.

Mine is set up with a larue SPR mount and a L M4 3-9 TMR. All I need now is a bipod and it's complete.

Here's my first 11 shots out of the gun. The 2 in the 7 ring at 4 o clock were paki surplus to get the scope close. The other 9 rounds were black hills 168 match at 100 yards.
Gas setting was on normal operation.

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z280/azc1967/IMG_5228.jpg


Um,
I don't think I wd. have posted that target.
If any of my guns shoot that shitty, they aren't mine.
I have an OBR on order.
They are guaranteed sub MOA.
That make$$$ it worth i to me.



First 10 rounds out of a gun with new glass and mount? I will clearly state any inaccuracy at this point is due to me shooting a new gun and scope trying to dial it in. That's a 5 inch target with the largest grouping at 3.5 inches using the BH ammo.

Post some pics of your first 10 shots big guy!

You're so bad ass.



Well, we all now know why you settle for a 3.5" group @ 100 yrds. out of a $3,000.00+ weapon and a Mark4 scope, match ammo.
Groovy man!



Well Mr Hot Shot show us your ten shot groups.
 


Well, I have had just about enough of the infantile bullshit from all you fuckfaces.
Since you are so fucking lame, I will spell it out for you.
I was critical of the WEAPON NOT the shooter, until he got all ass hurt.
I know you fucking shit for brains can't figure this out, so I will try to help.
Notice how shithead removed his target...Good!

I CRITICIZED THE WEAPON NOT THE SHOOTER!!! DUMBFUCKS.
See this. A $849.00 Winchester SXAR.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=121&t=477846

Now to shut you fucking children up.
This was my first 10 shot group with Lith. military surplus ammo, NOT match, IT'S ALL ABOUT THE WEAPON YOU IGNORANT FUCKING INTERNET COWBOYS.
It shot like this all morning.
This was out of a brand new unfired SXAR... go fuck yourself, asswipes.



1/28/2010 10:26:14 PM EDT
[#42]
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I bought the 20 inch reper. It's awesome. Some feature's I wanted but could not find anywhere else for the price was the side charging handle, piston gas system and the ability to turn the gas completely off and run the gun like a bolt action is awesome.

If accuracy is the same as the Larue 308 (from what I've experienced it is) I'd still say the Reper is a better buy due to the added features.

Mine is set up with a larue SPR mount and a L M4 3-9 TMR. All I need now is a bipod and it's complete.

Here's my first 11 shots out of the gun. The 2 in the 7 ring at 4 o clock were paki surplus to get the scope close. The other 9 rounds were black hills 168 match at 100 yards.
Gas setting was on normal operation.

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z280/azc1967/IMG_5228.jpg


Um,
I don't think I wd. have posted that target.
If any of my guns shoot that shitty, they aren't mine.
I have an OBR on order.
They are guaranteed sub MOA.
That make$$$ it worth i to me.



First 10 rounds out of a gun with new glass and mount? I will clearly state any inaccuracy at this point is due to me shooting a new gun and scope trying to dial it in. That's a 5 inch target with the largest grouping at 3.5 inches using the BH ammo.

Post some pics of your first 10 shots big guy!

You're so bad ass.



Well, we all now know why you settle for a 3.5" group @ 100 yrds. out of a $3,000.00+ weapon and a Mark4 scope, match ammo.
Groovy man!



Well Mr Hot Shot show us your ten shot groups.
 


Well, I have had just about enough of the infantile bullshit from all you fuckfaces.
Since you are so fucking lame, I will spell it out for you.
I was critical of the WEAPON NOT the shooter, until he got all ass hurt.
I know you fucking shit for brains can't figure this out, so I will try to help.
Notice how shithead removed his target...Good!

I CRITICIZED THE WEAPON NOT THE SHOOTER!!! DUMBFUCKS.
See this. A $849.00 Winchester SXAR.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=121&t=477846

Now to shut you fucking children up.
This was my first 10 shot group with Lith. military surplus ammo, NOT match, IT'S ALL ABOUT THE WEAPON YOU IGNORANT FUCKING INTERNET COWBOYS.
It shot like this all morning.
This was out of a brand new unfired SXAR... go fuck yourself, asswipes.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v514/hisfive/DSC03146.jpg



we dont talk that way in the technical forem and it seems that you are butt hurt. if you are saying that your pic is one of the first 10 shots from a brand new gun with new glass i got one thing to say
1/28/2010 10:28:07 PM EDT
[#43]
inbtl. way to crap on a good thread.
1/29/2010 3:54:08 AM EDT
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I bought the 20 inch reper. It's awesome. Some feature's I wanted but could not find anywhere else for the price was the side charging handle, piston gas system and the ability to turn the gas completely off and run the gun like a bolt action is awesome.

If accuracy is the same as the Larue 308 (from what I've experienced it is) I'd still say the Reper is a better buy due to the added features.

Mine is set up with a larue SPR mount and a L M4 3-9 TMR. All I need now is a bipod and it's complete.

Here's my first 11 shots out of the gun. The 2 in the 7 ring at 4 o clock were paki surplus to get the scope close. The other 9 rounds were black hills 168 match at 100 yards.
Gas setting was on normal operation.

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z280/azc1967/IMG_5228.jpg


Um,
I don't think I wd. have posted that target.
If any of my guns shoot that shitty, they aren't mine.
I have an OBR on order.
They are guaranteed sub MOA.
That make$$$ it worth i to me.



First 10 rounds out of a gun with new glass and mount? I will clearly state any inaccuracy at this point is due to me shooting a new gun and scope trying to dial it in. That's a 5 inch target with the largest grouping at 3.5 inches using the BH ammo.

Post some pics of your first 10 shots big guy!

You're so bad ass.



Well, we all now know why you settle for a 3.5" group @ 100 yrds. out of a $3,000.00+ weapon and a Mark4 scope, match ammo.
Groovy man!



Well Mr Hot Shot show us your ten shot groups.
 


Well, I have had just about enough of the infantile bullshit from all you fuckfaces.
Since you are so fucking lame, I will spell it out for you.
I was critical of the WEAPON NOT the shooter, until he got all ass hurt.
I know you fucking shit for brains can't figure this out, so I will try to help.
Notice how shithead removed his target...Good!

I CRITICIZED THE WEAPON NOT THE SHOOTER!!! DUMBFUCKS.
See this. A $849.00 Winchester SXAR.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=121&t=477846

Now to shut you fucking children up.
This was my first 10 shot group with Lith. military surplus ammo, NOT match, IT'S ALL ABOUT THE WEAPON YOU IGNORANT FUCKING INTERNET COWBOYS.
It shot like this all morning.
This was out of a brand new unfired SXAR... go fuck yourself, asswipes.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v514/hisfive/DSC03146.jpg



we dont talk that way in the technical forem and it seems that you are butt hurt. if you are saying that your pic is one of the first 10 shots from a brand new gun with new glass i got one thing to say


Seriously.
You are calling me a liar?
Go fuck yourself

How's that for technical language?
1/29/2010 4:21:26 AM EDT
[#45]
Dude drop the personal attacks and behavior you are trying to shun others for. There was a much more polite way to state your initial comments and if you can't figure that part out the mods will surely help you work those issues out very shortly. It looks to me like you have some good information to share so I hope you are able to get it in check.

Back on topic (again) If you are set on getting a REPR I cannot see where this is a bad idea. AR's are a dime a dozen and if you want cheap "assault rifle ban insurance" for the future you can pick up a Rock River stripped lower for $120. I've never owner a FAL but have shot several and even come very close to picking one up. While they are cool and have their place in history I don't see where it gives you all that much compared to the REPR which can do it all and then some. The only advantages that come to mind are the ability to go to a side folding stock and cheap surplus mags...which PMAGS have significantly reduced that margin of advantage. To me the trade values seem about right.

Obviously the best option would be to keep it all but it is certainly understandable if that is off the table. The REPR is one gnarly gun! There are guns in my collection that put a huge smile on my face every time I pull them out of the safe and the REPR will be one of those guns.

Just my .02.  Good luck!
- Joe
1/29/2010 9:58:36 AM EDT
[#46]
lets ignonore the fact that you acted like a child for a sec and i gues my question to you is how do you have a one 1in group with brand new glass with no flyers? wouldnt you have to make some ajustment? then say for a min you punch one hole then get adjustment perfect for second shot. all while trying to foul a brand new barrel? i mean what do you expect me to say?
1/29/2010 11:39:17 AM EDT
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lets ignonore the fact that you acted like a child for a sec and i gues my question to you is how do you have a one 1in group with brand new glass with no flyers? wouldnt you have to make some ajustment? then say for a min you punch one hole then get adjustment perfect for second shot. all while trying to foul a brand new barrel? i mean what do you expect me to say?


First of all, Fuck you and your child comment. Got it?
I have been personally attacked here for simply responding to Cdog. about his WEAPON OF CHOICE   DO YOU GET THAT?????????? Yes or no?

Have you even read all the threads here? Did you read my link?

Don't cop a fucking attitude with me when I simply responded to the thread. Period.

Now, Curtis, if you're serious about all the shit aside; and you're still not trying to be a big dickhead like others here, I'll play.
I have been shooting M14's for over 25+ years. The AR platform just seems to fits me better now, and in 308 I am a happier camper.
You need to put your presumptions aside; you might learn something.

Specifically, I setup the SXAR in Burris Pos-Align rings, (in my opinion, some of the best rings there are.) which after talking to the factory said my new scope with "Zero" inserts should be close to center.(Different inserts for adj.in them and not the scope)  I then boresight with a Leupold "Zero Point" boresighter.
They were absolutely right. What you see is my first group out of the SXAR. After this group, I then made 4 clicks to the right, 2 clicks up and I am GTG w/ a 200 yrd. zero. center of scope, done. A 1" group @ 100yrds., cold barrel...yes. I am NOT the best shot in the world. But I can hold my own. Most rifles shoot better
than we can shoot them, unless you consider a pie plate group acceptable, with a $1,000.00 + scope!  I don't. Most are addicted to mediocrity, not me. It sounds like you aren't either.
I bought the SXAR because as my thread explains, I ordered an OBR that has a 6 month wait. I have a hard time waiting. I read about the FN, it is $1499.00 and has a hell of a rep as a shooter.
The SXAR is IDENTICAL for $849.00 so I bought one.

If my OBR doesn't shoot as advertised, it will go back to LaRue until it does. Although all indications are the ad, ( I politely provided a link thinking people could think for themselves/ I was wrong) is correct and THE WEAPON shoots 1/2" MOA NIB. Mark LaRue doesn't put up with shit when it comes to quality.

If someone can't shoot as well as others, no problem, keep practicing, you will get better. But a 3.5" group out of a $3,800.00 WEAPON with match ammo and the shooter thinks this is good? IT is still shit to me.



1/29/2010 11:48:03 AM EDT
[#48]
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Dude drop the personal attacks and behavior you are trying to shun others for. There was a much more polite way to state your initial comments and if you can't figure that part out the mods will surely help you work those issues out very shortly. It looks to me like you have some good information to share so I hope you are able to get it in check.

Back on topic (again) If you are set on getting a REPR I cannot see where this is a bad idea. AR's are a dime a dozen and if you want cheap "assault rifle ban insurance" for the future you can pick up a Rock River stripped lower for $120. I've never owner a FAL but have shot several and even come very close to picking one up. While they are cool and have their place in history I don't see where it gives you all that much compared to the REPR which can do it all and then some. The only advantages that come to mind are the ability to go to a side folding stock and cheap surplus mags...which PMAGS have significantly reduced that margin of advantage. To me the trade values seem about right.

Obviously the best option would be to keep it all but it is certainly understandable if that is off the table. The REPR is one gnarly gun! There are guns in my collection that put a huge smile on my face every time I pull them out of the safe and the REPR will be one of those guns.

Just my .02.  Good luck!
- Joe


I have no idea what the fuck you are talking about.
I ordered an OBR, have you even read this thread at all??? FAL??? are you shitting me? DO you even know what an FNAR is?
Apparently ignorance is your gift. Try reading EVERYTHING before you respond.

We have a saying here;
If you're up to your nose in SHIT, close your fucking mouth!!!
Don't attack me with your ignorance. I can't stand the smell.
Get that in check.
1/29/2010 3:05:17 PM EDT
[#49]
Dude above - seriously needs his meds....

As for me, that kind of money for a bare rifle is not worth it.

I have shot and handled a REPR, and dont get me wrong, they are frickin slick, well made, high quality etc...

However, this is MY opinion only, it is not worth the money they are charging. Due to this being America they can charge what they feel is appropriate compensation for their design and work, and I am free to put my money back in my pocket.

My thoughts from my experience with it:
Exceptional fit and finish
Shoots nice
Is accurate
Is reliable - I saw 500+ rounds go through it in less than 3 hours

Now here is why I cannot justify the money:
My hodgepodge IRA/DPMS lr-308
Okay fit and finish - Olivers lower is exceptional as well - the upper is what makes me say "okay" - Durable finish just not "gorgeous"
Shoots nice
Is accurate
Is reliable - I have personally run 1500 rds through it without a cleaning, only minimal oiling, with no failures

Here is my justification - knowing what I have experienced personally, first hand, etc above:
REPR - $3400-$3600 bare rifle
Hodgepodge IRA/DPMS - ~$1350 with optics

To me, having perfect fit and finish and a piston is not worth $2000 more plus optics. That is money I can leave in my savings, put into other hobbies (550HP diesel pickup, computers, etc)

Just my opinion - take it or leave it. But this is why I dont have an OBR, REPR, etc...
1/29/2010 5:16:19 PM EDT
[#50]
vARiableone:

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I have no idea what the fuck you are talking about.

At least we agree on something.

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I ordered an OBR, have you even read this thread at all??? FAL??? are you shitting me? DO you even know what an FNAR is?
Apparently ignorance is your gift. Try reading EVERYTHING before you respond.

Are you shitting me??? Reading IS fundamental. Last time I checked the title of this thread was "LWRC REPR" and the OP was considering trading a FAL and an AR to get into a REPR. The term "back on topic" means "let us talk about the subject that this thread was originally created to discuss". Please tell me how the fact that you have ordered an OBR or that you own a FNAR is going to help the OP make up his mind? Hope that helps you understand what I'm talking about.

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We have a saying here;
If you're up to your nose in SHIT, close your fucking mouth!!!
Don't attack me with your ignorance. I can't stand the smell.
Get that in check.

I'm not sure how this applies. Please explain.

The smell of ignorance? Now, that is borderline funny. If you are going to be a troll at least do it well and make it fun for everyone involved. Either go hard core troll or post useful information. What was it you said about "mediocrity"?  

I'm done feeding you, go away.
(After you perform your obligatory regurgitation of the food I have just provided you, of course. Make it entertaining!)


To the rest of the folks:
(this means people who don't have the username "vARiableone", in case you are still reading)

Hopefully the OP got what they needed out of this thread before it was hijacked. For some reason I am having visions of little gold padlocks. If by some miracle it doesn't head that way let us know what you have decided to do!

- Joe
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