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[ARCHIVED THREAD] - 6.8SPC (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 8/19/2009 9:44:29 AM EDT
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Opinions on this caliber? Is it worth buying... Depends on the use you intend. For hunting big game and self defense ABSOLUTELY. For punching paper or varmints there are less expensive caliber options. +1 the only reason to NOT shoot a 6.8 is the ammo cost. but i can tell you from experience, the 6.8 is a very nice round for the AR platform. 
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Looking at it for deer and hogs. Maybe bear. ARFCOM member ARTEACHER took a ID black bear with his 6.8, worked wonders. The 68 is great and hopefully in the next 6 -8 months more good news is on its way. I cannot say more than that but there are things afoot both in Europe and state side which may bode well for the 68. |
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Looking at it for deer and hogs. Maybe bear. ARFCOM member ARTEACHER took a ID black bear with his 6.8, worked wonders. The 68 is great and hopefully in the next 6 -8 months more good news is on its way. I cannot say more than that but there are things afoot both in Europe and state side which may bode well for the 68. Dare I dream???? Of another source of ammo and brass?????? Fingers crossed. 
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Most people agree that the largest detractor to the 68 is ammo cost.
No cartridge is perfect so let's not even begin that discussion. The highest rated solution is to purchase a 5.56 upper to practice with cheap ammo. Handloading drops the cost, too. If your 68 is a safe queen then forget everything I said. |
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Opinions on this caliber? Is it worth buying... Depends on the use you intend. For hunting big game and self defense ABSOLUTELY. For punching paper or varmints there are less expensive caliber options. +1 There are more "kinks" with gear than with 5.56 (something downplayed by its very vocal supporters) and the round is still "evolving" but the above sums it up. Ammo costs will keep anyone not in the upper class from attending a weekend 1000 round rifle course... |
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Opinions on this caliber? Is it worth buying... Depends on the use you intend. For hunting big game and self defense ABSOLUTELY. For punching paper or varmints there are less expensive caliber options. +1 There are more "kinks" with gear than with 5.56 (something downplayed by its very vocal supporters) and the round is still "evolving" but the above sums it up. Ammo costs will keep anyone not in the upper class from attending a weekend 1000 round rifle course... I disagree with everythnig this poster has said. 1) I own four 6.8 rifles, and I have no KINKS with any of them. They function 100% perfectly. If you call reaming a SAAMI chamber to an SPCII with a hand reamer tool a "kink," then I suspect that you would also consider a tootbrush with a few bristles flared off the main group a "kink" as well. 
2) there is very little eveolution left to do witih this round as far as learning new loads, or getting any more velocity. I have loaded every bullet made in to this case, including 135 grain SMK subsonics, and 150 grain Woodleighs, so there isn't much else to test anymore. The rest is up to bullet makers and SAAMI itself. The few people still making 10 twist SAAMI rifles will end with an inventory of relatively obsolete rifles soon. We have tested it to the point of now just hitting the margins. The general performance chracteristics have been well established for two years now. 3) Take 500 rounds of M855, whcih is still selling for the ridiculous price of around $.70 per round. Then, compare this to SSA's new plinking round, which will be priced at $.70 per round. Or, shoot Wolf. Then, take 500 of your once fired LC brass, and take off the primer crimp, work harden the necks, and reload them 2-3 times before you split the necks.  . Then take that same once fired SSA brass, and happily reload them 10 times with no split necks. You can figure out the cost on your own.
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I got in on the pre-order discounted 6.8 uppers from arp & titan back last winter. I had to wait until July due to parts availability (YHM) and ended up changing the configuration a bit.
My story......started deer hunting again after a 25 year hiatus. Took a 5.56 to the woods. Ran across a hog at dusk. 5.56 soft points didn't penetrate the skull and gererally just pis*ed off the pig. However, I was hooked. Decided to bring a bigger gun next year. Got a DPMS SASS in .308. I love it, but the thing is quite heavy. Learned about 6.8, which has roughly 50% more muzzle energy than 5.56 in the same lightweight package. Researched it like crazy and got in the pre-order. Glad I did. Waiting on Vltor to catch up so I can finish my lower. I will never take a 5.56 hunting again, except maybe for varmits. Anything bigger, then .308 and 6.8. By the way, a 6.8 is a great choice for a young shooter. Just stay away from 1 in 10 and 6 groove SAMMI chambered barrels. 1 in 11 or 12 and 4 or 5 groove SPECII or DMR chambers will allow you to shoot the hotter loads. |
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Looking at it for deer and hogs. Maybe bear. This gentleman will not likely need to fire 1000 rounds at the range, so some of the above points about ammo cost and availablity are totally moot. I use my 6.8 for hunting, and shoot recreationally only as an aside. Therefore, I am not limited so much by the need to shoot 1000's of rounds, but much more so by PERFORMANCE on game. this was the essencce of the OP's question and need. So, to answer your question directly: 6.8 SPC loaded with the Barnes 110 grain TTSX is expensive (gasp, oh no, not the dreaded $ 1.00  ) ....but who the helll cares, if all you need is 5 rounds at the bench to zero, and one round in the shoulder of a deer, to take home some meat? The rifle is much lighter than a .308, but has shorter effective range. I cannot think of any other 6.5 lb gun I have ever fired which kills hogs like my 6.8 loaded with 110 grain TTSX's over 29.5 grains of 10X.
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1) I own four 6.8 rifles, and I have no KINKS with any of them. They function 100% perfectly. If you call reaming a SAAMI chamber to an SPCII with a hand reamer tool a "kink," then I suspect that you would also consider a tootbrush with a few bristles flared off the main group a "kink" as well. Your experience (a sample of one) is barely relavant and certainly not conclusive. The evidence of poor quality gear and folks getting caught with the wrong spec is all over the net including the 6.8 promotional forum 3) Take 500 rounds of M855, whcih is still selling for the ridiculous price of around $.70 per round. Then, compare this to SSA's new plinking round, which will be priced at $.70 per round. Or, shoot Wolf. Then, take 500 of your once fired LC brass, and take off the primer crimp, work harden the necks, and reload them 2-3 times before you split the necks. Then take that same once fired SSA brass, and happily reload them 10 times with no split necks. You can figure out the cost on your own. Interesting campfire tale. Reality is ammo costs are significantly different. <Off-topic comments removed - Z> |
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So, to answer your question directly: 6.8 SPC loaded with the Barnes 110 grain TTSX is expensive (gasp, oh no, not the dreaded $ 1.00 ...but who the helll cares, if all you need is 5 rounds at the bench to zero, and one round in the shoulder of a deer, to take home some meat? The rifle is much lighter than a .308, but has shorter effective range. I cannot think of any other 6.5 lb gun I have ever fired which kills hogs like my 6.8 loaded with 110 grain TTSX's over 29.5 grains of 10X. So, if your shots are goingto be > 250-300 yards, you might look into a bolt gun in .308 or .260 Rem instead. Well spoken. I have AR's chambered in 5.56, 6.8 SPC, and .308. I love 'em all, but when I hang one in the gun rack on my Rhino while working on my Texas ranch it's almost always the 6.8. Last year it dispatched over 60 hogs, a couple of whitetails and assorted varmints. Using my handloads (110-gr Pro Hunters over 29 gr 10X) this rifle is amazing accurate, with minimal recoil. Performance of the inexpensive Pro Hunters is amazing to me, with most kills being DRT. I bought my first 6.8 SPC upper as an experiment, but soon fell in love with it. It makes my black rifle disease almost enjoyable
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Personally I really like the 6.8 although I will say the ammo is more expensive then 5.56. I do keep hearing that SSA will be coming out with cheaper pinkering rounds though which should be nice.
I do know that a lot of people seem to need to dremel m4 feedramps into various 6.8 ar's that don't come with them. Stag is one of the ones I read about needing this done. My left handed 6.8 has been fine without them though with the Barrett mags I run. I have had some issues with c products mags so when I do some upgrades to this gun in the future I plan on having them cut in(going to a rail because handguards with a grip wiggle too much for me). 
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crenca - Please stop with the wide-sweeping generalizations. This is a technical forum. You're certainly entitled to your opinion, but hi-tech-rancher is providing first-hand experience. If you have DIRECT personal experience with this caliber to counter, then feel free to share it. |
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crenca - Please stop with the wide-sweeping generalizations. This is a technical forum. You're certainly entitled to your opinion, but hi-tech-rancher is providing first-hand experience. If you have DIRECT personal experience with this caliber to counter, then feel free to share it. Not sure how the recent evolution - which is not SAMMI approved and not even submitted as far as I know - of the so called "SpecII" chamber is a generalization. 6.8 promoters admit and use this evolution as a selling point. At what point can it be legitimately claimed that a spec has been stabilized and is not "evolving" or "wildcat"? I submit that SAMMI recognition is certainly one reasonable way of making such a recognition. |
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crenca - Please stop with the wide-sweeping generalizations. This is a technical forum. You're certainly entitled to your opinion, but hi-tech-rancher is providing first-hand experience. If you have DIRECT personal experience with this caliber to counter, then feel free to share it. Not sure how the recent evolution - which is not SAMMI approved and not even submitted as far as I know - of the so called "SpecII" chamber is a generalization. 6.8 promoters admit and use this evolution as a selling point. At what point can it be legitimately claimed that a spec has been stabilized and is not "evolving" or "wildcat"? I submit that SAMMI recognition is certainly one reasonable way of making such a recognition. You don't seem to be sure of much of anything. The words in red are a broad, sweeping generalization, not to mention a mischaracterization of people that you know absolutely nothing about. In the very same words you try to deny you are trolling, you do it again. That is what we are talking about. here are some FACTS: 1) SPC II is nothing new. Do you even know what the SPC II chamber is? It is nothing more than an extra .050" of freebore. That's it. It is NOT EVOLVING. That has been the upgrade made to 6.8 SPC's for over 3 years now, since Tim Hicks began making Ko-tonics rifles. (in fact, it could be argued that this is the ORIGINAL CHAMBER as designed by Holland and Murray....the inventors of the cartridge). This is nothing more than the exact same modification made to .223 chambers allowing those rifles to shoot 5.56 X 45 mm ammo. Why is this so hard for some of you 6.8 detractors to understand? 2) 6.8 has better terminal performance than 5.56 in every studied parameter. I have personally killed hundreds of animals with both, and when asked by the OP to relay my experience I said that I believe that the 6.8 would be almost ideal for deer and hogs. I believe I have the experience and pictures to support that. You provided absolutely nothing to the contrary except verbage and 
3) as of today, August 18th, 2009, you can say that the evolution of the SPC II camber is complete. It has been for 3 years. There will be no more changes until it is recognized by SAAMI. None are necessary because it works. If a shooter has a SAAMI chamber, you can ream it to SPC II with the turn of your wrist. If you go to 68Forums. com, and get on the chamber reamer list, you can get the reamer sent to you. It is being done as a courtesy to its site members because some guys there are just generous, kind, professional people. They have nothing to gain from this except the feeling they helped someone else get into 6.8, and get their gun upgraded Please excuse me, gentlemen for the slight segue.
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I've got one built and two more builds on the way. And I have no 5.56 ARs, nor will I get one. Jim pics? As requested: http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo243/jimbobborg/CameraPictures031.jpg http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo243/jimbobborg/CameraPictures032.jpg http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo243/jimbobborg/CameraPictures033.jpg http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo243/jimbobborg/CameraPictures034.jpg http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo243/jimbobborg/CameraPictures035.jpg DPMS Upper and Lower bought separately. She has 45 shots through her with no malfs. I'm using SSA ammo. When I actually get the new uppers in and when I get the two lowers done, I will be posting a family picture. Jim |
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FACT: Many folks have made a SAMMI chamber purchase in the very recent past, and you can still do so today. Not sure why the FACT that 6.8 is in flux is such a difficult thing to understand and admit.
As far as disagreeing with 6.8 TB and effectiveness on game, not sure where you got that idea from. My original post as a reply AGREEING with this assertion. Perhaps things are getting personal for you for some reason. As for 6.8 no longer being in flux (as Cramer would say "starting NOW"!) what’s the evidence? Simply because you say so? SAMMI recognition would be a starting point... |
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The above argument is exactly why I really didn't want to get into ARs. Too many fanbois of the 5.56 AR-15 getting pissy about the AR and 5.56 and anyone besmirching it in favor of something else. I'd like to think we are all adults in here. Jim Ah, don't let it come to that. You just have to make a special effort to read through the hype to get to the real pros AND cons... |
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Sigh, I see its the same party to trouble. Like I said, give it 6-12 months, might be some new approved stuff in the pipeline.... JUST for you naysayers ;) As a 6.8 shooter, I will be the FIRST to applaud any such devolopment. Don't agree that pointing out the cons of 6.8 makes one a "naysayer". Don't be a tease, tell us what you know! 
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Quoted: FACT: Many folks have made a SAMMI chamber purchase in the very recent past, and you can still do so today. Not sure why the FACT that 6.8 is in flux is such a difficult thing to understand and admit. As far as disagreeing with 6.8 TB and effectiveness on game, not sure where you got that idea from. My original post as a reply AGREEING with this assertion. Perhaps things are getting personal for you for some reason. As for 6.8 no longer being in flux (as Cramer would say "starting NOW"!) what’s the evidence? Simply because you say so? SAMMI recognition would be a starting point... Well, the FACTS are also such that there are a lot more of them available to the person who wants to adopt a 6.8SPC. Just because it hasn't gotten formal recognition by SAAMI doesn't mean that the manufacturers haven't been paying attention to the work hi-tech-rancher has done and aren't adopting it across many platforms. If someone adopted the platform early, then that would indeed be frustrating - no doubt about it. But looking at the sheer numbers of people shooting 6.8, I think it's safe to say that we're out of "wildcat" territory. Even if you have an early rifle not chambered in the latest and greatest doesn't mean your rifle is useless; it's merely a matter of how much you can hot rod your loads. |
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Sigh, I see its the same party to trouble. Like I said, give it 6-12 months, might be some new approved stuff in the pipeline.... JUST for you naysayers ;) As a 6.8 shooter, I will be the FIRST to applaud any such devolopment. Don't agree that pointing out the cons of 6.8 makes one a "naysayer". Don't be a tease, tell us what you know!
I didnt point out anyone specific, your making assumptions, on yourself here.... I dont have a problem with you pointing out facts, its what keeps places honest. Just saying those naysayers (whoever they may be) might find some things interesting in the coming year, or not., its beyond me, that much is for sure Time will tell.
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crenca I really don't understand your problem is, but it gets rather old ever time there is discussion on the 6.8 you come in and start trouble, no real facts but just pissing in the cornflakes I don't get it either. If anyone (there are others - they just don't stick around very long nor follow up) points out something in the con side of the ledger he get trounced on by the usual suspects (misnamed a "troll", "stating trouble", etc.). If "trouble" is pointing out the FACT that 6.8 is in flux and "specII" is not a SAMMI spec, and if it is "trouble" to point to the high cost of 6.8 ammo vs. 5.56, 7.62x39 (the two FACTS I have asserted and stand by) , then I suppose the definitioin of "trouble" has changed... Interestingly, I asserted another FACT. I agreed that 6.8 is far better TB performer (vs 5.56) for home defense and medium game - it's what I use. Of course we know where that went... 
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Who makes a 5 round 6.8 magazine for hunting? C Products does not have one listed... Both CProducts and PRI have 5 rnd Magazines C Products 5 rnd PRI I'd choose CProducts if I was shooting factory ammo and PRI if using handloads. AS far as ammo prices go. Quality ammo for 5.56 & 6.8 will be close to the same in price. It's only the plinking ammo that 5.56 has an advantage. That's the only reason I have a 5.56, for plinking. The 6.8 is what I have for everything else. $26.99 for Rem Sierra Matchking 77gr $27.99 for Rem Sierra Matchking 115gr |
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If "trouble" is pointing out the FACT that 6.8 is in flux and "specII" is not a SAMMI spec, and if it is "trouble" to point to the high cost of 6.8 ammo vs. 5.56, 7.62x39 (the two FACTS I have asserted and stand by) , then I suppose the definitioin of "trouble" has changed. Just my take (well and that of many others), but maybe to some its NOT in flux, since a overwhelming majority of 68 mfgs went to the SPC II chamber, with only 3 left to have not switched... yet...rumors are that may change soon, so you see, its perspective. Yours is its influx, others, not so much, but that it has settled on a new chamber. Perspective plays more into your fact schematic then you seem to realize, its not fact when its a opinion or can be seen as such,. I dont see a whole heck of a lot written by credible sources saying "the state of the 68 is in constant flux" etc but more that its evolved and come into its own being. You do see the difference right? In the case of the 6.8 the strong strong majority of people see this as a change for the better and thus settled on a new chamber. Regardless of the "flux" point which again seems to be more opinion then fact really based on the info out there, its moot to many at this juncture, but if you think its not, hey, we can agree to disagree. Im cool with that! As to ammo I agree its pricier still, again, that may change, may not, but a certifiable fact is, the 68 is popular, and growing ;) With that hopefully more good things will come, including an answer to your ammo point which make almost monthly on here. If ammo is to expensive for you (it seems to be since you like to discuss it constantly), I suggest you drop the round and stick to far more established rounds like 223 or 22 LR, at least 22 is still inexpensive (to me). If you reload for the 68, I dont know why then you would care much about the factory ammo costs. For someone who claims to have a 68, I dont know why you even keep it really... you dont seem to show any enjoyment out of it one bit . If I had a round I found to be too costly, or in flux as you discuss so fervently I would drop it like a bad girlfirend. I guess thats what is so puzzling about your statements, they seem to be contradictory (to me again). You say stuff like "I was sitting next to a guy on a plane the other day whose job it is to test ammo for the .gov (he goes to lake city, etc. pulls samples - you get the idea). Anyways, 6.8 is basically ruled out as something to get behind in any serious and meaningful way according to him. It will have a small niche status, but that is all.... Insiders are apparently liking "improvements" on 5.56. We both like and use 6.8 but don't confuse it with sliced bread either." You want to know what vague is... see above. When people like Dr Roberts, Stephen Hilliard, etc have things to say about the 6.8, it carries a bit more weight then vague "plane flights." Last I checked, and Z you can correct me if I am wrong here, but Lake City has nothing to do with the 6.8 in any capacity. So why anyone would to go Lake City to pull 68 ammo seems to be... strange. What exactly do you like or use the 68 for? You say you like it but how, anyone who reads here only sees copious amounts of negative from you whenever you post in the 68 threads, you know that too right? Anyway carry on.
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I don't want to piss in cornflakes but a 40 dollar magazine... PRI are the best right? Did C-Products ever get a consistent product? The CP mags seem to work good for people, at least from what I have read in the last 12-18 months. I have a dozen, no issues with them whatsoever. Yeah the PRI and Barrett mags are not cheep but the CP mags work great by most accounts and can be had for 12-16 dollars depending on where you look. |
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I don't want to piss in cornflakes but a 40 dollar magazine... PRI are the best right? Did C-Products ever get a consistent product? The CP mags seem to work good for people, at least from what I have read in the last 12-18 months. I have a dozen, no issues with them whatsoever. Yeah the PRI and Barrett mags are not cheep but the CP mags work great by most accounts and can be had for 12-16 dollars depending on where you look. As I've said I have had some problems with the c-products mags feeding right on my stag 6.8 upper. From how it jams I think having m4 feed ramps cut in would fix this. Seems to be a common fix for people who have bought a stag 6.8 or any other 6.8 that doesn't have the extended feed ramps from the factory. All one needs is a dremel although I have some other stuff I'm thinking of having done with the rifle so I might have a smith do all of it at once. The Barrett mags are some of the best AR mags I've seen period. I have a few of them for my 6.8 although I have more c-products ones. Because of their cost I don't expect to really ever have that large of a collection of them. |
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I don't want to piss in cornflakes but a 40 dollar magazine... PRI are the best right? Did C-Products ever get a consistent product? The CP mags seem to work good for people, at least from what I have read in the last 12-18 months. I have a dozen, no issues with them whatsoever. Yeah the PRI and Barrett mags are not cheep but the CP mags work great by most accounts and can be had for 12-16 dollars depending on where you look. My CP products mags all work great. Spread my ordering over the last year and a half and have two different colored followers, half marked Magpul. The mag with the most mileage is my CP 5-rounder, not a hiccup yet. The Barrett mags come with Kool-Aid though. Ahhhhh, Kool-aid.  I really like my Barrett mags. I have not tried PRI because their price point is the same as Barrett and there seem to be a consensus that Barrett is better. Correct me if that has changed recently.
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Anyone use the HORNADY V Max round? It's a good plinking round for the 6.8, and possibly a good home defense round. It's not very accurate in the 6.8 platform, according to ALOT of guys that reload for the 6.8. I have about 500 of the Vmax bullets to load up for my 6.8, but I'm mainly using them as plinking rounds. I've also got a good collection of the 85 grain Barnes TSX, Barnes 110 Grain TTSX, Nosler Accubond 110's, and Speer 90 grain TNT's that will be used for hunting and other purposes. Go over to the 68 forums and read up in the reloading section. -ZA |
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Opinions on this caliber? Is it worth buying... Depends on the use you intend. For hunting big game and self defense ABSOLUTELY. For punching paper or varmints there are less expensive caliber options. +1 There are more "kinks" with gear than with 5.56 (something downplayed by its very vocal supporters) and the round is still "evolving" but the above sums it up. Ammo costs will keep anyone not in the upper class from attending a weekend 1000 round rifle course... With all due respect crenca, you need to back up statements like this with cold hard facts and documentation. Otherwise you're not answering the OP's question in a technical or constructive nature. That pretty much makes you a troll, as we are all well aware that you are not a fan of the 6.8 SPC/6.8x43. My polite suggestion to you is that you refrain from comment since you obviously can not provide anything other than conjecture, speculation and disdain. It's readily apparent that your knowledge in this subject is extremely limited or perhaps nonexistent. And to the OP, if you are not into hand loading, you may not see all the gains that are to be had (one can say that with any cartridge)...but there are "plenty" of acceptable types of ammunition and uppers/rifles out there that will be more than capable for what you are looking to use it for...
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I don't understand why there are all the arguements over SPCI, SPCII, etc... If you have a regular old 6.8 SPC 1 1in 10 or 1 in 9.5 it will still kill the hell outta deer and work for HD even at the relatively slow 2550 fps V-MAX velocity.
I had an older 16 inch CMMG 6.8 medcon upper that loved the Hornady V-MAX! Shot about 1.5 moa on average with standard handguards and chrome lined barrel. A friend of mine has a 6.8 with 24 inch bull barrel (gunshow special) that consistantly shoots both the Hornady 110 BTHP and V-MAX sub-moa (5 shot groups). Both have taken deer with that round, the 24 incher over 30 deer. That said I'm all for improvement. I'm building my new 6.8 around a Denny's 16.1 inch Recon barrel. I believe that is SPCII 1 in 11. Will be able to run hotter loads in this one, hopefully with better accuracy than before. Just gotta get it all together and test loads for accuracy to figure out what to buy in bulk. Definitely worth buying, especially for deer hunting with your AR. It is a very effective combo, accurate, great terminal performance, and in a nice comfortable, lightweight, familiar AR-15 package. I say buy! Derek. ETA- the whole light weight part above... My friend's 6.8 ain't light! But damn it's accurate! |
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1) I own four 6.8 rifles, and I have no KINKS with any of them. They function 100% perfectly. If you call reaming a SAAMI chamber to an SPCII with a hand reamer tool a "kink," then I suspect that you would also consider a tootbrush with a few bristles flared off the main group a "kink" as well. Your experience (a sample of one) is barely relavant and certainly not conclusive. The evidence of poor quality gear and folks getting caught with the wrong spec is all over the net including the 6.8 promotional forum 3) Take 500 rounds of M855, whcih is still selling for the ridiculous price of around $.70 per round. Then, compare this to SSA's new plinking round, which will be priced at $.70 per round. Or, shoot Wolf. Then, take 500 of your once fired LC brass, and take off the primer crimp, work harden the necks, and reload them 2-3 times before you split the necks. Then take that same once fired SSA brass, and happily reload them 10 times with no split necks. You can figure out the cost on your own. Interesting campfire tale. Reality is ammo costs are significantly different. <Off-topic comments removed - Z> Not for me, I reload 6.8 for about $0.35 a round and it will be cheaper when I the bulk Rem bullets come in on my backorder. 6.8 is only slightly more than 223 for me to reload. If you own and shoot a 6.8 you have to reload, its not even an option to not as far as I am concerned, esp when $125 can get you all the equipment you need to load for a long long time. |
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<Off-topic comments removed - Z> I'm pretty sure that is "evidence of poor quality gear and folks getting caught with the wrong spec" in all calibers from certain manufactures. I'm also pretty sure that there is evidence of good quality gear and folks getting the correct spec "all over the net" as well. |
| well is seems that the main argument is the the ammos more expensive then 223 or 22?? Ok sure it is, but the reason Im looking at 6.8 or 6.5 is for hunting deer and possibly other medium to larger game. Im sure this is what A LOT of people are drawn to the round for. I don't think you'll see a lot of people going out and getting a 6.8 just for a range toy, sure there may be a few, but I be willing to be the vast majority have a true purpose for the round. Now I don't have any data to back that up, but with the admittedly limited research Ive done on the round so far, I just started looking at it today, that seems to be the case. If you want a cheap shooting plinker go with 223, I don't think anyones disputing that. but the fact is 223 is not well suited for medium to big game hunting, Id also go so far to say that in a lot of cases its probably illegal to hunt large game with also, I know it is in my state. When you take plinking out of the equation the price of ammo doesnt matter as much, hunting rounds in ALL caliber are expensive. |
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