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4/9/2009 12:01:44 PM EDT
Ok guys im a newbie on this Board and just bought my first personal Firearm in the form of a DPMS LR 308 A4 (16in Barrel 1/10 twist). Im active duty military and SDM trained so the AR family is pretty much instinct for me by now. I want to put an AGOG on it and my question is since an ACOG's bullet drop comp is for Mil Spec Ammo(i think) how much would match grade ammo then be thrown off because of the difference in ballistics. Or Have i answered my own question?

Chris
4/9/2009 12:49:37 PM EDT
[#1]
I'm guessing you are comparing 147 grain 308 Ball to 168 grain OTM.  Out to 400 yards, less difference than the width of the BDC crosshatches in the 308-based ACOG.  Beyond 400 yds/meters you'll likely start to see a difference.

FYI, I doubt a 308-calibrated ACOG is setup for 16" velocities.  Probably setup for 20+" barrels of an SR-25 or M14.  You might call Trijicon.  They're responsive, in my experience.

Also, you might look into the new ACOG-like optic Burris is releasing any time now.  About 1/5 the cost.  Not as rugged, but ALOT cheaper.

-David
Edgewood, NM
4/9/2009 1:39:02 PM EDT
[#2]
BDC are not at all precise.  But they do give a close guess.   There are so many variables the further out you go, the harder it is to stay on target.

So far as I can tell the starting point is:
Trijicon BDC baseline:
M852, 168gr,  traveling at 2,500fps with a BC of .447 and a height over bore of 3.5"

so really what you need to do is run some ballistics numbers with those above and yours for your particular rifle and load, and compare.

Using those numbers and a basic ballistic calculator:

Range   Velocity        Impact  Drop    ToF     Energy  Drift
0       2500    -3.5    0       0       2332    0
50      2400    -0.99   0.84    0.06    2149    0.64
100     2307    0       3.19    0.13    1985    1.28
150     2216    -0.65   7.19    0.19    1832    2.36
200     2126    -3.07   12.96   0.26    1686    3.91
250     2039    -7.43   20.66   0.34    1551    5.96
300     1954    -13.88  30.46   0.41    1424    8.54
350     1871    -22.61  42.54   0.49    1306    11.67
400     1791    -33.84  57.11   0.57    1197    15.41
450     1713    -47.78  74.4    0.66    1095    19.77
500     1638    -64.68  94.65   0.75    1001    24.79
550     1566    -84.83  118.14  0.84    915     30.52
600     1497    -108.51 145.17  0.94    836     36.97
650     1432    -136.06 176.07  1.04    765     44.19
700     1370    -167.84 211.19  1.15    700     52.21
750     1313    -204.23 250.93  1.26    643     61.03
800     1260    -245.65 295.69  1.38    592     70.67



So the above should be the base line–– BUT Trijicon is in meters, and those are in yards.  So...  thats more math than I want to do right now.

So use a ballistic calculator like this one punch in your numbers and see.

My experience is that since 2500 is a little slow for most of my loads, I am a little high at the beginning.  But since they have a better BC than cheaper bullets, over time my rounds drop more.  So out to 400 or so I am good.




Ref numbers found here
4/9/2009 1:54:14 PM EDT
[#3]
the ar10 FAQ in the AR10 forum has some info on drops/calibration if you want to look there
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