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Posted: 10/29/2008 6:52:41 PM EDT
| I have a live round stuck in my rifle. the charger handle will not pull back for me to eject the shell out. i am at a loss on what to do can someone give me a idea of what needs to be done |
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I have a live round stuck in my rifle. the charger handle will not pull back for me to eject the shell out. i am at a loss on what to do can someone give me a idea of what needs to be done BE VERY CAREFUL WHEN TRYING TO FIX THIS PROBLEM. KEEP THE GUN POINTED IN A SAFE DIRECTION. THE RIFLE CAN/MAY STILL FIRE THE ROUND! When this happened did you try and fire the rifle before you noticed the stuck round? This will give you some idea of what state the trigger and sear are in. I have had this happen to me a few times. In my case it was caused be using reloaded ammo, that I reloaded using range pick-up brass. There are some AR15's out there with "loose" chambers. There are two things you can do so you will not get "stuck" cases. FIrst use a small base sizer die and full length size all of your loads. Second, check your reloaded ammo with a camber gauge. If you do not want you pay for a chamber gauge you can use your upper. Take the upper off the lower and remove the bolt/carrier. Drop each round into the chamber and check if it seats all the way into the camber and then "dump" the round out into the "good" pile. If is does not dump out easily then the case is too large and should not be used. I do this with all the ammo I shoot, both pistol and rifle and have significantly reduce the number if failure to feed issues. Now here is the leagal stuff. AS ALWAYS USE CAUTION AND PRACTICE SAFE GUN HANDLING Good Luck 320pf |
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Yeah i got it out. put the information in the trouble shooting forum and they said hit the buttstock on the floor while pulling the charger handle worked like a dream my problem is i do now know why it got stuck. This is what i do.. It works ok.. sometimes it takes a few tires... Stocks are tougher than you think.. |
| reloads. i am using federal and remington cases with cci long rifle primers, imr 4064 and hornady sst bullets 165 gr and i am having a hell of a time the powder is not coming out like it should if i use what the manuals and their online tables say the powder is almost at the top of the neck of the shell i had to drop it back to 42.1 gr and still had a difficult time getting the bullet all the way in. i measured the powder 2 ways to make sure i was not off 1) digital scale and 2) the old fashion scale that came with the press (rock chucker) |
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A quick trick I have done at the range is to seperate the upper and lower just enough to reach in with a screwdriver and re-cock the hammer. I usually just pull the rear pin and leave the front pin intact. Put the halves back together and try to fire the round again.
You can also us a rubber mallet on the charging handle to dis-lodge the stuck round. Don't get too rough with it or you will be buying a new charging handle. |
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reloads. i am using federal and remington cases with cci long rifle primers, imr 4064 and hornady sst bullets 165 gr and i am having a hell of a time the powder is not coming out like it should if i use what the manuals and their online tables say the powder is almost at the top of the neck of the shell i had to drop it back to 42.1 gr and still had a difficult time getting the bullet all the way in. i measured the powder 2 ways to make sure i was not off 1) digital scale and 2) the old fashion scale that came with the press (rock chucker) Bobby, your components and powder grains are correct. It's not a bad thing to crush the powder a little to seat the bullet. You could try seating the bullet out further and still get the round to fit in the magazine. I don't know how you are dumping the powder to your cases, but if you dump it all in one big glob the level will be high in the case. Two ways to cure that is to pour the powder in the case slowly. The other is if you are dropping the powder straight out of your powder measure, see if you can't find about a six inch drop tube to attach to the bottom of your measure. Or, just work the measure slowly and it will drop your powder charge deeper into your case. Good luck and be safe. |
| I tried a different load tongiht. loaded 5 shells of the same powder but dropped the grains to 41. the 5 i loaded with the 42.1 gr well the the first 2 shot pretty good the third jammed and i had the same problem i had last night with the live round stuck. i can seat the bullet a little deeper with the 41 gr and hopefully that will feed the magazine better and still be a good hunting round but this i am not real sure of. i always go by the manuals and this load show at the bottom of the manual at the min for that powder. i geuss i am just looking for a little reassurance in load. |
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/Polish that chamber. I was having the same trouble. A drill, arm and hammer tooth paste, and a cleaning rod with brush and a patch rapped around it. Give it about 1 minute clean 1min clean and another minute clean and try it out. I think They are coming out with rough chambers. It made a huge difference in my rifle. If I put a sized piece in the chamber by hand it would be sticky. If I dropped the bolt on it it would be stuck. The polished chamber cured it.
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For future reference with a stuck case: Always keep the barrel of the rifle pointed in a safe direction. Put the rifle on safe if the hammer is still cocked. If the hammer isn't cocked, you will not be able to do this. Separate the upper from the lower, pulling both pins. You may have to tap them out. Be careful, as the rear of the bolt carrier group will extend a little ways into the buffer tube. Using a brass or other non-maring drift and a small hammer, tap on the lower rear web of the BCG. This should allow it to come back and bring the stuck cartridge with it.
If the BCG pulls the rim off the cartridge, or if the extractor slips over the rim, you will have to attempt to tap the cartridge out of the chamber from the muzzle end of the barrell. Don't use a cleaning rod with an exposed female threaded end, as the bullet may flare the rod and get everything stuck. The problem with this is that pressure from the muzzle will just drive the bullet into the case and may expand the case further, tightening the grip the case has on the chamber. I don't suggest you put much pressure on the charging handle as it is light weight and easily deformed, although not too expensive if you need to replace it. The BCG is sturdy. |
| thanks guys for all of the help i never could get a consistent load the best i could get was the 42 gr of imr 4064 and seated the bullet a little deeper, but i did have another problem i always shot 5 shot groups but, never fast but it seems the bullet is climbing which i expected as the barrel heats up but it also is moving left about .25 each shot, the butt stock was a little loose enough that i could watch it move could that have caused it. |
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