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Posted: 6/25/2007 12:28:26 PM EDT
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Moderators, Would you think about caliber specific headings? At least 6.8 and the Grendel. maybe the 458? Maybe the FAQs, Reloading, Ballistics and Precision shooting under each of those. EDIT-along with the general discussions. I'm thinking we can have some semi intelligent and informative discussions with out going to benchrest or sniper forums. |
While there are a few people here that hold there own in such discussions, I don't think the chances of maintaining any kind of standards are very good. David |
I am asking for new headings. If you spit them up into calibers maybe someone could go to a topic and discuss something or find some useful info without wading through 26 pages of a pissing match. As it is Myself and several others from this board go to benchrest and sniper forums to discuss precision reloading, ballistics and long range shooting with ARs of various calibers. I know that most just buy ARs to blast cans and jugs but some actually use them for Highpower comps and as DMRs. Most would never think we can hit a 10" circle at 1000 yards with an AR. Maybe someone will find something useful. Did you know there is a range report from Forest in there somewhere? How long did it take for you to find it. It is good info. It was on page 19. If it was a topic under 6.8 maybe some one would find it before they gave up. This is a good board but there's always room for improvement. The more that come here and like it, the more they spread it around. The more $ everyone makes or spends. |
Have you ever tried to read through 37 pages to find the start of a topic you're interested in? All of that is fine But I am past the point of its .277 in dia and start with this load. I am designing new reamers and buying new barrels to prove the 6.8 could be a viable DMR. that could compete with and possibly out perform the 308 out to 600 yards. As Forest noted I have made "major" using the 6.8 with an 18" barrel! Remington has done everything possible to hurt the 6.8. I am on the other side of that coin. I would like to show how good it really is. |
I'm still confused. Are you asking for separate forums for each caliber? If so, that's way beyond my pay scale (which is zero), and something that only Goatboy can accomplish. If you're talking about having separate threads here in the AR Variants forum, that pretty much exists already with the tacked threads. You'll have to explain precisely what you are asking for, and I'll do my best to accommodate you. |
It looks like you are correct about this BBS or forum. You have communities with forums under each community. So yes I would like to see specific calibers as their own sub-forum just like Varients and AR10 have their own. Would you do a poll to see what everyone thinks? I can see how starting new forums would be alot of work so maybe just the two most popular 6.8 SPC and Grendel. thanks. |
It's probably a safe assumption that everyone here would vote "yes" for new caliber-specific forums, so my only advice would be for someone to send an IM to Goatboy requesting such a change. 
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I think this is what hes getting at. The tacked threads are boocoo pages long. It takes a long time to scan them to find the pertinent info on such and such page that (you) are looking for. If someone could categorize the info and data (on specific calibers) posted on here in a format that is easier to search through. All the 6.x pissin matches I think take away from the overall usefulness of the variants forum. As does the .308 AR pissin matches. Have a tacked thread on the pros and cons of each variant caliber so we can make our own decisions in an easier fashion devoid of the emotion from the pissin matches. A tacked thread for each caliber with all of the load/reload data that has been posted devoid of the non-informative post the originals contain. I guess the simple way to put it is the tacked threads need streamlined. |
| I absolutely agree with constructor. The AR variants ar getting very popular and should have their own section just like the AR-10. If separating them into sub categories is not an option, I'd at least make a 6.5/6.8, .458/.50, Etc. In the meantime someone can post a pro's and con's of the 6.5 and 6.8. TWL actually posted something on M4Carbine that was dead on accurate about both. |
You mean like this: 6.8 FAQ & Resource Page or this? 6.8 Reloading Page or how about this: 6.8 SPC Technical Information All of which are accessible at the top of the first post on the first page of the 6.8 SPC FAQ thread tacked at the top. If someone needs a similar page on another topic just let me know and I'd be happy to put one together. |
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I think your request is a good one. But I'm sure it's been brought up numerous times before. And I have a feeling if you IM Goatboy or anyone else your request will probably fall on deaf ears. Becoming a paying member of the site might help your cause though..... 
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I am not really talking about the FAQs, that should be one of the headings under the calibers. This is a good site but it could be better. Most of the discussions here are entry level like "will a 223 kil a bar?" I really hate to use this as an example but. Look at the level of discussion here and then go to the grendel forum or 6mmBR.com or some of the precision/tactical shooting sites and compare. It's good to joke around and have a lively discussion but it would be nice to get a little more informative forums going. The benchrest crowd really know their stuff but they use benchrest calibers and I'd rather not hang out with a bunch of old paper punchers. Alot of people that are in the industry hang out here. They are an untapped wealth of information. I am all about precision and making the gun the best it can be. If you choose the right barrel, reamer, twist and smith to make the barrel you have a great start. Then learn to reload for precision shooting, choose the right/ bullet powder combination, pick a good trigger and scope and then learn to shoot I mean really shoot. Learn how to estimate range with a mil-dot, learn your come-ups and your windage. Something about being able to bang the gong at 800 yards feels good. Some of us are testing and pushing the 6.8 to be all it can be. If we can show a few people it is a good reliable accurate cartridge. Maybe they will show a few. Then we can all thumb our noses at Remington. Maybe some day the big green will take another look at the 6.8 as a DMR. |
I tried to get the Armalite AR-10 forum turned into a 308 forum. The Armalite fan boys tore me apart. They would have no co-mingling of their superior rifle with other lowly 308s...
Being a paying member only gives you a better search tool. I pay $1500 a year. They won't even listen to me. Armalite pays MUCH more and they get their own AR-10 forum outside of the industry forums. That's what it really boils down to. What I can't figure out is why Bushmaster and Trijicon don't have THEIR own forums outside of the industry forums. 
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