Quote History Quoted:
You are off in imaginary land friend. Come back to reality. Buy the best barrel you can afford.
Get a Larue LT158 over an ADM mount if you want QD. Get a scope with more than 8x. Hell, get a 3-15x44 PST Gen II if you want .75" groups at 100. Only shoot Sierra match bullets or Bergers. Only shoot handloaded ammo. Only shoot Lapua or Nosler brass.
For God's sake... don't get a cheap ass RRA piece of crap. Get a Geissele 2 stage enhanced.
The Magpul PRS is not needed. Your priorities on the build are all ass backwards.
Cheap barrel, cheap ammo, cheap mount, cheap scope, but probably the most accurate rifle of anyone you know... get real.
My Ruger RPR is shockingly accurate. 9 out if 10 people say it's the most accurate rifle they have every shot. It sports a 5-25X scope. The cheapest bullet I shoot through it is an ELD-M.
But you want an equally accurate rifle in an AR15 platform, using sub par parts instead of the best you can find. Most SPR don't shoot .75" groups. If they do its the best group of the day. You want .5" groups and put ANY limits on price you are crazy. I mean you need to see a shrink crazy.
I know somone with a Lilja custom .308 Remington 700 with blueprinted action etc. It does what my Ruger does... about .75 MOA 5 shot groups very consistently. But that's not good enough for your budget AR build you want to shoot circles around the bolt guns.
So get a Krieger, a JP Ultramatch, or other super high end barrel. I would not even get a Shilen, Lilja, or Noveske, I'd look at more than that, beause that is what you need to reach your goal.
Get a billet upper. Use a Chargemaster at the minimum and load to the same .1 grain on everyload.
View Quote
I always love some good opinion...
I have upgraded the build to a Geissele High Speed. I own the RRA trigger and it is probably better than 90% of the ooooh look at my expensive AR triggers that I have tried. Yes, Geissele included and CLE.
ADM mount is a done deal. I owned a Larue. Both are good. I prefer the ADM.
I have a 2-8x with a BDC. Pretty close to optimal for large targets, but I would like 12-20x for smaller 600+ yd targets.. I could see going to a 2-12x or possibly bigger. I cannot see a huge scope on a 5.56, because the wind kills you past 600 yds with mag length ammo.
You do a great job of complaining about things like the PRS stock....What would you suggest to balance the 3lb 20" barrel and get lop/cheek weld perfectly adjusted?
You lambast me on my accuracy target, because some guys Rem don't shoot. My stock Savage 300WSM hits this at 100 yds. Is it the shooter. Good AR's can shoot!
I bought the barrel based on my barrel maker's experience. I had a Kreiger. Good barrel. Don't you get this is a gas gun? There are diminishing returns on all choices. It is worse on a gas gun. An AR will never really shoot a Kreiger to its potential.
Shilen wins benchrest competitions. Lilja too. Quit it. No esker does not! Cannot! JP cannot either. Good gas gun barrel, but not a winner. Lol!
Bolt guns built right shoot 0.25 MOA at 100, if the shooter can. Some shoot 0.1 MOA.
Do you shoot AR's? Or just post about them on the internet.
.75 MOA is not amazing. It is a rock solid bolt gun....slightly better than that in a gas gun.