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6/20/2016 12:54:15 AM EDT
So now that RIS II is out of stock for years to maybe never again, and KAC isnt in the FFRAS game, where does one turn if they want low profile, full quad 1913?

I'm not interested in MLOK, Keymod, or any other system (I've tried them)

I'm was hoping to stay out of EE, but I absolutely love the profile of the RIS II.

What are folks doing nowadays?
6/20/2016 1:43:18 AM EDT
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Daniels Defense

http://www.primaryarms.com/01-002-00256/p/01-134-09186/
6/20/2016 1:44:43 AM EDT
[#2]
I like DD lite rails. They are sturdy and relatively light.
6/20/2016 6:30:32 AM EDT
[#3]
Centurion C4.is a very good rail.
6/20/2016 6:48:01 AM EDT
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If you like the profile of the DD RIS II, then the logical choice would be the DD Lite Rail III.  Feels like the same exact profile based off the examples I've handled. Same quality construction and style of mounting system as well.

6/20/2016 8:23:40 AM EDT
[#5]
I'm a big fan of the Centurion Arms C4.  It's lightweight, easy to install, and uses the factory barrel nut.  Top is a 12" with a 14.5" barrel, bottom is a 10" with an 11.5" barrel.

6/20/2016 9:15:33 AM EDT
[#6]
If your not cloning go with the centrion rails
6/20/2016 9:54:57 AM EDT
[#7]
LaRue
Daniel Defense RIS profile
Centurion

I've had them all and prefer the short bottom rail profile of the RIS and LaRue.

For rifles not needing rail space - I 99% of the time go with the ALG V2 (favorite rail )

ETA: centurion is the choice if you have a pinned muzzle device and standard barrel nut.
6/20/2016 10:03:19 AM EDT
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If you like the profile of the DD RIS II, then the logical choice would be the DD Lite Rail III.  Feels like the same exact profile based off the examples I've handled. Same quality construction and style of mounting system as well.



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This. The Lite III and LaRue rails have the best profiles out there IMO with the "tucked" in bottom rail.
6/20/2016 10:09:58 AM EDT
[#9]
Just get a RIS ii off the EE and be done with it. You know you won't be happy unless you have one so go ahead and get yourself one and build another clone.

I'm at 4 right now and would not be happy with anything else.
6/20/2016 10:16:14 AM EDT
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I recently bought 2 sets of DD Omegas.  Because I'm lazy.  They seem solid enough, I've got a DBAL-D2 mounted on one of them and it doesn't wiggle around.
6/20/2016 10:19:02 AM EDT
[#11]
If I were into quad rails, I'd get a Centurion.
6/20/2016 10:59:55 AM EDT
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They have an advantage in that the barrel nut can be torqued to spec without having to align the gas tube. To me this is huge. I simply set the torqued wrench at 55 foot pounds after tightening twice to 35 foot pounds and loosen. Some other float tubes offer this feature as well.

Larue, JP Rifles, KAC and at least a half-dozen other companies all make great tubes. Even economy tubes from Midwest Industries work just fine. I would not buy anything made in China or any other cheap (probably airsoft) knock-off.
6/20/2016 11:00:56 AM EDT
[#14]
I really like my C4 rail
6/20/2016 11:28:54 AM EDT
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They have an advantage in that the barrel nut can be torqued to spec without having to align the gas tube. To me this is huge. I simply set the torqued wrench at 55 foot pounds after tightening twice to 35 foot pounds and loosen. Some other float tubes offer this feature as well.

Larue, JP Rifles, KAC and at least a half-dozen other companies all make great tubes. Even economy tubes from Midwest Industries work just fine. I would not buy anything made in China or any other cheap (probably airsoft) knock-off.
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I like DD lite rails. They are sturdy and relatively light.


They have an advantage in that the barrel nut can be torqued to spec without having to align the gas tube. To me this is huge. I simply set the torqued wrench at 55 foot pounds after tightening twice to 35 foot pounds and loosen. Some other float tubes offer this feature as well.

Larue, JP Rifles, KAC and at least a half-dozen other companies all make great tubes. Even economy tubes from Midwest Industries work just fine. I would not buy anything made in China or any other cheap (probably airsoft) knock-off.


I have a Gen I and Gen II lite rail, and love them both.  Installation is easy, everything locks up securely, and it's a quality, lighter rail that you know will last.  They aren't cheap, but I got mine when next generations came out, so I didn't spend too much.  

That being said, I just ordered a LaRue rail because they are on sale, and like their barrels, kind of hard to pass up right now.  I don't have any experience with the rail, but I had no reservations buying it.
6/20/2016 12:00:04 PM EDT
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Honestly the Daniel Defense Lite Rail III is the best quad rail designed in my opinion, It's light, thin, and has a solid lockup.
I really liked the ones I've had.
6/20/2016 12:01:58 PM EDT
[#17]
I am in the same boat OP but I have come to the conclusion that anything but a ris II just wont satisfy my itch.
6/20/2016 12:18:03 PM EDT
[#18]
I really like the Centurion C4 rail system.
6/20/2016 12:44:39 PM EDT
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Despite being a little on the heavy side, I love the RIS II. It is the best looking, sturdiest and most well profiled rail in my opinion.
6/20/2016 3:06:39 PM EDT
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I had a RISII (still pissed I sold the upper). My new upper has a LaRue 12" rail. Good profile, similar to the RISII. I like it, and i like that it's a sturdy, reliable rail.
6/20/2016 3:24:15 PM EDT
[#21]
I can also confirm that the Centurion C4 is really nice.

6/20/2016 3:38:05 PM EDT
[#22]
Not low profile but I really like LaRue's quad rails.  Strong lock up, anti rotational features, and one piece design makes it really hard to beat.  Down sides are its pretty heavy and there's a gap between the rail and the receiver.  I think there's a sale on them too over at LaRue's site.  Pat trusted it's design so that should be a clue. DD's lite III is a good choice as well.  Pretty close to a RIS II.
Although not a quad rail but I think Geissele's MK4 or PWS' new rail is a good choice, it has rails where you need them.
6/20/2016 4:07:38 PM EDT
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as you can see there are lots of choices out there, DD rails are solid, but they're expensive.

lately, to save weight, I've been moving towards any system that enables me to locate rails where I want them, not just have them there just in case.
I know that's not what you want, but it works better for me. (I've had 4 dd rail systems in the past, keep 1 now)
6/20/2016 6:26:48 PM EDT
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6/20/2016 7:01:16 PM EDT
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DD Omega quad rails are my preference in regards to quad rails. If I need something to FF and is for more precision work, then I'll use a DD modular float rail or an MI modular float type too because rails where I want them and no where else.
6/20/2016 7:45:50 PM EDT
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I'm pretty fond of the Samson Star C on my Stag.
6/20/2016 9:39:22 PM EDT
[#27]
KAC RAS 2 comes to mind for free-floating a carbine. Heavy and limits your optic options, but they work and they're $150 straight from KAC.

Full-length, Light Rail 3/DDM4.

Centurion C4 rails.
6/20/2016 9:53:23 PM EDT
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KAC RAS 2 comes to mind for free-floating a carbine. Heavy and limits your optic options, but they work and they're $150 straight from KAC.

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How often do these come back in stock? I emailed KAC and they don't have a timeline...only to keep "checking back periodically."

Nothing since March.
6/20/2016 10:06:03 PM EDT
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6/20/2016 11:33:00 PM EDT
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All day long!!
6/21/2016 12:18:00 AM EDT
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My go to rifles have the  C4 or the DD lite III. Both are very good rails.
6/21/2016 12:31:53 AM EDT
[#32]
love the the centurion C4




6/21/2016 1:09:44 AM EDT
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6/21/2016 3:01:12 AM EDT
[#34]
Centurion C4 are nice rails.

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