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2/14/2015 9:23:30 PM EDT
So I instaled an ras I recieved from KAC, and i made sure the locking teeth was under
the barrel nut and the gas tube was between the teeth. Its locked up solid and no movement at all.

But.... the problem is, I noticed that the top rail of the ras is higher than the upper of my rifle(colt 6920 btw).

So my question is, is this normal or is the rail out of spec?

I call Knights, no answer, obviously its the weekend and they are probably closed.....
No pic yet.Ill try to get some decent iphone pics if needed.
2/14/2015 9:31:01 PM EDT
[#1]
Pics.
2/14/2015 9:46:25 PM EDT
[#2]
Yes I had this issue with my new kac ras for the rifle and carbine. It's suppose to be even. For me with my rifle I ended up hurting myself the first time putting it in right. It was very painful so be careful.

You put the top rail in first by the front end handguard ring. Make sure the guide "clicks" in to the delta/gas tube. Sometimes a little pressure helps but I found completely undoing the screw out helps in making sure it seats in correctly. The bottom rail is easy to fit once you get the top.

Edit: Another good advice I have is to make sure the butt of the rifle is on the ground. You can "cup" the delta ring and apply pressure when you're setting. Putting the rifle on the butt will aid in delta ring pressure, the gas tube guide setting down by gavity, and making sure the rails drop into the delta ring. So be sure to do that. Again I injured myself on my rifle. My hand slipped from the delta at the same time the rails went in and my thumb hit the side really hard. So be very careful in doing this.
2/14/2015 9:55:22 PM EDT
[#3]
Make sure the tab on the front is under/inside your handguard cap.
2/14/2015 10:23:53 PM EDT
[#4]
Is the gap between the top and bottom rail pieces larger at the delta ring end than at the front sight? If so it isn't fully seated or its misaligned.
2/14/2015 10:47:19 PM EDT
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2/14/2015 11:33:55 PM EDT
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PICS!!!! Its kinda hard to tell, but when I look at the rifle there is a height  difference.
I thought maybe it is just my eyes playing tricks on me but when i bridged my aimpoint to see, the ras was higher than the flat top beacause the aimpoint was at and angle.


The gap between the upper. could be me but I swear there is a height difference.



Front tab is under the handguard cap.
2/15/2015 12:40:46 AM EDT
[#7]
If the front tab is under the hand guard cap, the locking teeth under the barrel nut, and the rail is fully seated under the delta ring, you're good to go. That teeny tiny difference in height is inconsequential.
2/15/2015 11:23:14 AM EDT
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PICS!!!! Its kinda hard to tell, but when I look at the rifle there is a height  difference.

I thought maybe it is just my eyes playing tricks on me but when i bridged my aimpoint to see, the ras was higher than the flat top beacause the aimpoint was at and angle.



http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/NathanTribes/Mobile%20Uploads/photo%201_zpsbdyk7ivm.jpg

The gap between the upper. could be me but I swear there is a height difference.



http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/NathanTribes/Mobile%20Uploads/photo%202_zpstnbbtjwv.jpg



Front tab is under the handguard cap.
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Looks fine to me, and if you dont mind telling where did you get your RAS from?

 
2/15/2015 4:20:20 PM EDT
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I just checked all 3 of my KAC rails with a machinists rule. All of mine sit on the same plane as the rail on the upper.
For fun, I took them all off (1 M4 RAS, and 2 M5's), and re-installed them.
In 2 cases, I was able to duplicate the slight misalignment between the rail and the upper.  I don't think the clamp teeth of your rail is properly engaged with the barrel nut. I had to take mine off a couple of times and ensure it was seated. Once it was fully seated, the rail heights matched perfectly.

I think you need to take it off and try again.
2/15/2015 4:28:01 PM EDT
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As the poster above me just said, that locking nut needs to be just right.

Also in your first pic, it's not even tightened. That screw should sit flush. With that tightened properly it will pull the rail down and even.
2/15/2015 9:00:47 PM EDT
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Try to reinstall. The delta ring isn't fully seated on the upper half as is evident in your picture.
2/15/2015 9:14:58 PM EDT
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Try to reinstall. The delta ring isn't fully seated on the upper half as is evident in your picture.
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Yup, that's your problem right there ^
2/16/2015 12:50:16 AM EDT
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I know it isnt fully tightened, but in these pics the whole thing is together.





After further inspection...  it sill looks uneven but every thing is rock solid. I might just be crazy....

However I will check to see if the teeth are fully under the barrel nut again.
2/16/2015 10:15:36 AM EDT
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Lightly tap on the upper rail and tighten the locking tab with two fingers on the screwdriver.  That should settle it in.  It looks ok, the delta ring would be off more than that if the tab was on top of the nut.

Fun RAS story of the morning:  I was once distracted by a (smokin' hot) female coworker and managed to install the upper rail of a RAS into a brand new Colt with all the meat of my 1st finger on my right hand between the rail and the barrel nut.

Was quite painful and took two guys to get the rail back off.  I had a barrel nut lookin' blood blister on my finger for about a week and a half.  
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