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Posted: 12/13/2014 10:28:44 PM EDT
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http://aresarmor.com/store/Item/effin-acomp556
Anybody tried this thing out yet? Looks pretty neat. Apparently you can fill ports with set screws to adjust the direction that the gas is released and you can get some pretty wacky/great results. Looks like one hell of an idea. |
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http://aresarmor.com/store/Item/effin-acomp556 Anybody tried this thing out yet? Looks pretty neat. Apparently you can fill ports with set screws to adjust the direction that the gas is released and you can get some pretty wacky/great results. Looks like one hell of an idea. Compensator's or brakes work by having flat surfaces for the exiting gas to hit. When it hits the baffle it pulls the rifle forward, off setting the recoil force. A bunch of holes doesn't really do much for recoil reduction. Id look at it as an adjustable A2 flash hider. I also wouldn't run it due to the retarded name. |
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Compensator's or brakes work by having flat surfaces for the exiting gas to hit. When it hits the baffle it pulls the rifle forward, off setting the recoil force. A bunch of holes doesn't really do much for recoil reduction. Id look at it as an adjustable A2 flash hider. I also wouldn't run it due to the retarded name. Quoted:
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http://aresarmor.com/store/Item/effin-acomp556 Anybody tried this thing out yet? Looks pretty neat. Apparently you can fill ports with set screws to adjust the direction that the gas is released and you can get some pretty wacky/great results. Looks like one hell of an idea. Compensator's or brakes work by having flat surfaces for the exiting gas to hit. When it hits the baffle it pulls the rifle forward, off setting the recoil force. A bunch of holes doesn't really do much for recoil reduction. Id look at it as an adjustable A2 flash hider. I also wouldn't run it due to the retarded name. When the gas hits those surfaces, or baffles, it is redirected which is what in fact adjusts/reduces recoil. (Equal and opposite reaction) As for the name... I don't give a rats ass what it's called. If it works I'll use it. And according to what I've read, it works very well. I was looking for somebody who has first hand experience. Enjoy your ride on top of that high-horse though. |
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Compensator's or brakes work by having flat surfaces for the exiting gas to hit. When it hits the baffle it pulls the rifle forward, off setting the recoil force. A bunch of holes doesn't really do much for recoil reduction. Id look at it as an adjustable A2 flash hider. I also wouldn't run it due to the retarded name. Quoted:
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http://aresarmor.com/store/Item/effin-acomp556 Anybody tried this thing out yet? Looks pretty neat. Apparently you can fill ports with set screws to adjust the direction that the gas is released and you can get some pretty wacky/great results. Looks like one hell of an idea. Compensator's or brakes work by having flat surfaces for the exiting gas to hit. When it hits the baffle it pulls the rifle forward, off setting the recoil force. A bunch of holes doesn't really do much for recoil reduction. Id look at it as an adjustable A2 flash hider. I also wouldn't run it due to the retarded name. Generally a brake is designed with recoil mitigation in mind, and a compensator is designed to compensate for muzzle rise, with recoil reduction as a secondary design goal. The Effin A does reduce recoil (there was a fairly comprehensive test done by a blog recently), but it was designed to stabilize the muzzle, and to be adjustable so it will work on all rifles. The Battle comp is overrated when it comes to a comp, but the effin A works exactly how its advertised. For a SHTF rifle though, I'd suggest something else. The ports can trap powder and affect the comps ability to work correctly. The 2nd gen Effin A is lighter and the design of the ports are improved. You don't have to worry about getting the screws in the way of the bullet, and they won't back out as easy because there is a shoulder to tighten them against. |
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Generally a brake is designed with recoil mitigation in mind, and a compensator is designed to compensate for muzzle rise, with recoil reduction as a secondary design goal. The Effin A does reduce recoil (there was a fairly comprehensive test done by a blog recently), but it was designed to stabilize the muzzle, and to be adjustable so it will work on all rifles. The Battle comp is overrated when it comes to a comp, but the effin A works exactly how its advertised. For a SHTF rifle though, I'd suggest something else. The ports can trap powder and affect the comps ability to work correctly. The 2nd gen Effin A is lighter and the design of the ports are improved. You don't have to worry about getting the screws in the way of the bullet, and they won't back out as easy because there is a shoulder to tighten them against. Quoted:
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http://aresarmor.com/store/Item/effin-acomp556 Anybody tried this thing out yet? Looks pretty neat. Apparently you can fill ports with set screws to adjust the direction that the gas is released and you can get some pretty wacky/great results. Looks like one hell of an idea. Compensator's or brakes work by having flat surfaces for the exiting gas to hit. When it hits the baffle it pulls the rifle forward, off setting the recoil force. A bunch of holes doesn't really do much for recoil reduction. Id look at it as an adjustable A2 flash hider. I also wouldn't run it due to the retarded name. Generally a brake is designed with recoil mitigation in mind, and a compensator is designed to compensate for muzzle rise, with recoil reduction as a secondary design goal. The Effin A does reduce recoil (there was a fairly comprehensive test done by a blog recently), but it was designed to stabilize the muzzle, and to be adjustable so it will work on all rifles. The Battle comp is overrated when it comes to a comp, but the effin A works exactly how its advertised. For a SHTF rifle though, I'd suggest something else. The ports can trap powder and affect the comps ability to work correctly. The 2nd gen Effin A is lighter and the design of the ports are improved. You don't have to worry about getting the screws in the way of the bullet, and they won't back out as easy because there is a shoulder to tighten them against. Thanks for the info! Do you have any suggestions for a comp that sort of does it all? I'm looking for SHTF quality. |
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http://aresarmor.com/store/Item/effin-acomp556 Anybody tried this thing out yet? Looks pretty neat. Apparently you can fill ports with set screws to adjust the direction that the gas is released and you can get some pretty wacky/great results. Looks like one hell of an idea. Compensator's or brakes work by having flat surfaces for the exiting gas to hit. When it hits the baffle it pulls the rifle forward, off setting the recoil force. A bunch of holes doesn't really do much for recoil reduction. Id look at it as an adjustable A2 flash hider. I also wouldn't run it due to the retarded name. Generally a brake is designed with recoil mitigation in mind, and a compensator is designed to compensate for muzzle rise, with recoil reduction as a secondary design goal. The Effin A does reduce recoil (there was a fairly comprehensive test done by a blog recently), but it was designed to stabilize the muzzle, and to be adjustable so it will work on all rifles. The Battle comp is overrated when it comes to a comp, but the effin A works exactly how its advertised. For a SHTF rifle though, I'd suggest something else. The ports can trap powder and affect the comps ability to work correctly. The 2nd gen Effin A is lighter and the design of the ports are improved. You don't have to worry about getting the screws in the way of the bullet, and they won't back out as easy because there is a shoulder to tighten them against. Thanks for the info! Do you have any suggestions for a comp that sort of does it all? I'm looking for SHTF quality. Andrew Tuhoy from Vurrwapen blog did what I consider the definitive study on Muzzle devices, but the Vurrwapen blog is offline (I think the study is available on another site but I can't find it). I always heard great things about the battle comp, but when I bought one I found out that it actually overcompensated pushing the muzzle down, which is much worse than the A2 because gravity counteracts muzzle rise helping you control it natuarally. What Andrew found was that AR rifles are generally neutral, and the points of contact from the shooter are actually what causes muzzle rise (which may or may not be a totally accurate way to describe it), but in his study almost all comps were worse as controlling muzzle movement than the flash hiders. He used some decently scientific methods to measure muzzle movement and flash, and the three pronged flash hiders (AAC Blackout, BE Meyers, Smith Vortex) had the least amount of muzzle movement. For a comp the Effin A is going to be the best for controlling muzzle movement because it's tuneable. In a SHTF situation, a HD situation, and most other real world situations, flash suppression is much more important than recoil mitigation. Not only that, but .223 recoil is minimal anyway. The only people I would recommend use a muzzle device other than a three pronged or birdcage style is a competition shooter. If you must have a muzzle device to reduce recoil, this study is one of the more comprehensive studies on recoil reduction, but Andrew's study was more telling when it come to choosing a muzzle device (especially for a SHTF situation). I was really disappointed in the Battle Comp, and it turned out that the AAC blackout did exactly what I wanted the battle comp to do, with several added features. If you're going to get a comp, get the Effin A so you can tune it to your rifle. If you want the best product for your rifle, get the AAC Blackout or Smith Vortex (or BE Meyers if money is not a concern). |
| I'm running an Effin' A .308 comp on my 7.62x39 AR, works as advertised. But heavy. The new 5.56 models are much lighter. Don't notice much of a recoil reduction but does a great job with muzzle rise. I just went with it cause I was looking for something that would vent up but not to the side since most times I shoot at a public outdoor range. If you're looking for a comp & brake there are probably better choices but my Aries is well made and I've only shot corrosive M67 ammo thru it and it's held up well. |
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