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Posted: 11/5/2012 3:57:48 PM EDT
| There is a gun store that says the have an lw 15 for sale by new frontier. does anyone have any opinions about this gun. any help would be awesome. |
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I have one of their complete lowers on one of my rifles. I have not had a single problem with it in over 3,000 rounds. I have dropped it, shot it, banged it around and nothing happened to it. Just watch some of the torture tests on Youtube if you still feel uneasy. I watched them and it sold me for the 100 bucks I spent on a complete lower. The only thing I am going to change out are the takedown pins to metal ones. |
| I got one ad put a SOTA upper on it. Yesterday I put a bushmaster upper on it. Uppers fit tight. I have ran about 400 rounds through it with no problems. It bought it as a plinker, and will prob drop a .22 conversion into it, and keep it as that. I'm not planning on taking it to war. For the $ it's a good deal. Not sure I would hit trees with it, bit the $100 I paid it is just fine for what i am using it for. I may buy a few to keep around. Who knows what tomorrow will bring. I would rather have 5 of them on hand than one I can't afford and there fore didn't buy it..... |
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God we go over this almost every day. They Arn't that mich cheaper then Aluminum and only weigh a few ounces less. Then add in its plastic junk and it doesn't make sense.
You can't take the part designed for aluminum and make it in plastic and expect it to work well, this is fact. Poorly designed plastic toy. you want a toy ar15? Good for you. Why on earth you want to be cheap as hell on a damn rifle makes no damn sense. |
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I have one of their complete lowers on one of my rifles. I have not had a single problem with it in over 3,000 rounds. I have dropped it, shot it, banged it around and nothing happened to it. Just watch some of the torture tests on Youtube if you still feel uneasy. I watched them and it sold me for the 100 bucks I spent on a complete lower. The only thing I am going to change out are the takedown pins to metal ones. Yeah my favorite part was when they used a press and measured how far they compressed it instead of how much force it took to compress it till failure. FAIL 
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If you're talking to me no I didn't as they make both kinds, but I wanted to be clear
you posted that knowing its a poly lower DONT BUY PLASTIC JUNK LOWERS Fortunately New Frontier Armory does not make junk polymer lowers. The LW-15, bought as a complete lower, is the best option, rather than buying it stripped. It is a great savings and it is lightweight. Personally, I love the feel of the trigger, and it is nice not having to lube the fire control group. |
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I wonder why the love for this crap comes mostly from newer members. I wouldn't take one if they were free. 
Oh I would! I would smash it together with a forged receiver until one or the other breaks as an objective experiment... Then I'd build a nice rifle out of the forged lower because there is no doubt in my mind it would live. 
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I wonder why the love for this crap comes mostly from newer members. This statement has no rational basis, however, I have personal experience with the NFA LW-15. Do you? No rational basis? 
www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_12/590150_ar15_lower_made_from_composit_____.html |
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There is a good side by side thread HERE. Read it and decide for yourself if this is what you are looking for. Asking on here is like asking a Ferrari dealer to give an opinion on a Ford Escort.
IMO, these poly lowers have come a little ways from the plum crazy lowers that came out earlier. I think they have a ways to go. I wouldn't take one into battle (now) or treat it too harsh otherwise. I bought one (stripped) just because it is something I don't have yet and wanted to try one. I have CERTAINLY wasted wwwaaaayyy more money than $40 on shit I didn't need before. I have plenty of real lowers (for now) so why not. As stated in ALL the other threads you are only saving $20 over a blem lower or $25 over a new lower. If it is your one and only get aluminum then worry about trying something new later. |
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Quoted: Quoted: I wonder why the love for this crap comes mostly from newer members. This statement has no rational basis, however, I have personal experience with the NFA LW-15. Do you? rational: you cannot fix a broken plastic lower, you can fix a broken al lower. Personal experience, who really cares. I'm old enough that it's better to learn from others mistakes than make them myself. Lastly just a round count is not a test of durability. Let the gun slide off the side of a table and hit on the barrel. You think that plastic lower will take that many times. I'm sure this is not a rational test becuase 99% of the people on this board shoot from benches and lean weapons up, never would happen. Im a huge fan of better, faster, longer, but these type of plastic lowers are not doing anyone any good. |
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even if magpul used there special polymer I would still be skeptical about them, i have seen a few carbon 15s break in the cold winters of Iowa...
for those claiming to watching the test videos they did appeal to all audiences I want to see water tests, drop on cement, winter weather things i was surprised about the truck a little but in reality the pressure shown was spread out evenly because of the speed of the truck.... |
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Clearly some people have not bothered to watch the torture tests by NFA... You mean the one where they play catch with a rifle on sand then pin a big bore upper on it, any rifle should handle that. Or are you referring to the one where they test the engagement surfaces of the trigger, but not it's ability to withstand impacts on a fitting pin, worthless. I bet you mean the test where they throw a couple in a press and squash the mag well of a forged lower and showed how the plastic one just snaps back into its original shape. Did it occur to you that they showed how far it compressed, but not how much actual force was applied. Yes I saw them, no I wasn't impressed. It struck me as pure advertising/propaganda. |
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Quoted: how many times do you want me to throw mine down the driveway?Quoted: Quoted: I wonder why the love for this crap comes mostly from newer members. This statement has no rational basis, however, I have personal experience with the NFA LW-15. Do you? rational: you cannot fix a broken plastic lower, you can fix a broken al lower. Personal experience, who really cares. I'm old enough that it's better to learn from others mistakes than make them myself. Lastly just a round count is not a test of durability. Let the gun slide off the side of a table and hit on the barrel. You think that plastic lower will take that many times. I'm sure this is not a rational test becuase 99% of the people on this board shoot from benches and lean weapons up, never would happen. Im a huge fan of better, faster, longer, but these type of plastic lowers are not doing anyone any good. |
| I have 2 NFA project guns, I also have 5 Aluminum guns , I don't feel biased against either. I have several hundred down each NFA now and they work fine so far, so good. A friend of mine dropped one off the back of my truck onto some limestone, and it didn't do anything to it other than mark it up. It landed on its side and dented the upper a little It didn't smash into pieces or turn into dust - It held together fine. Oh and the truck, it was an m35A2, so its a bit taller than a pick-up tailgate. I'm sort of old enough to remember that the M14 guys used to say "Its plastic junk" about the M16A1 and the SP1 carbines out then - it was a cheap alloys, plastic toy, etc. etc. I also own an M1A and like that too I think we all need to be open minded to see what the facts are rather than leap to the "its plastic junk" conclusion. I'm glad a lot of guys didn't buy into the "Its plastic junk" about the AR15 when that was said years ago. I'm glad someone stuck it out objectively. |
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