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Posted: 7/10/2011 8:00:30 AM EDT
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Hello to all,
On my AR shorty my barrel is made by ER Shaw. Does anyone have a knowledge of this brand of barrel???? Just how good are they??? Impala |
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Quoted: RedFalconBill, Thanks for your reply. I'll rest a little easier now but my real issue about the brand is that after 60 rounds or so my groups open up drastically. I guess my barrel is sensitive to fouling. Impala Is your barrel chrome lined or not? If it is not, have you broken your barrel in? How fast do you fire your 60 rounds? How hot is it outside when you shoot? |
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RedFalconBill, Thanks for your reply. I'll rest a little easier now but my real issue about the brand is that after 60 rounds or so my groups open up drastically. I guess my barrel is sensitive to fouling. Impala Is your barrel chrome lined or not? If it is not, have you broken your barrel in? How fast do you fire your 60 rounds? How hot is it outside when you shoot? RedFalconBill, My barrel is not chrome lined in anyway. It's just plain old chrome moly steel version. When I shoot it I always shoot from the bench slowly about every 7-10 seconds in between shots. Currently I've shot only about 120 rounds. Impala |
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If you have not broken your barrel in, do so. Also, you have not described your AR setup. Have you given some thought that to see if it is you who are fatiguing, and not the AR? RedFalconBill, Can you describe your version to break in a carbine type barrel???? If it was a bolt action, I know the standard procedure that I've read about but since it's a semi auto the bolt action version doesn't apply. My set-up is nothing special.... I just use a rifle rest and sand bags for the rear of the rifle to keep it steady.. When I shoot I just use the iron sights and I feel strongly it's not me duesingthe firing phase. Impala |
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If you have not broken your barrel in, do so. Also, you have not described your AR setup. Have you given some thought that to see if it is you who are fatiguing, and not the AR? RedFalconBill, Can you describe your version to break in a carbine type barrel???? If it was a bolt action, I know the standard procedure that I've read about but since it's a semi auto the bolt action version doesn't apply. My set-up is nothing special.... I just use a rifle rest and sand bags for the rear of the rifle to keep it steady.. When I shoot I just use the iron sights and I feel strongly it's not me duesingthe firing phase. Impala |
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Quoted: Quoted: If you have not broken your barrel in, do so. Also, you have not described your AR setup. Have you given some thought that to see if it is you who are fatiguing, and not the AR? RedFalconBill, Can you describe your version to break in a carbine type barrel???? If it was a bolt action, I know the standard procedure that I've read about but since it's a semi auto the bolt action version doesn't apply. My set-up is nothing special.... I just use a rifle rest and sand bags for the rear of the rifle to keep it steady.. When I shoot I just use the iron sights and I feel strongly it's not me duesingthe firing phase. Impala A barrel is a barrel, the action type does not apply. No matter, I doubt that the barrel has been abused by you just shooting it. If you are not using a scope and have a standard trigger, then I would say, yes, there is a chance it is you who is tiring. Still, I would fiddle around with the placement of the front rest, ensure the bunny bag is holding the stock, and see if there is anything that might cause your stringing. What type of ammo, range, and shot groups are we talking about? |
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If you have not broken your barrel in, do so. Also, you have not described your AR setup. Have you given some thought that to see if it is you who are fatiguing, and not the AR? RedFalconBill, Can you describe your version to break in a carbine type barrel???? If it was a bolt action, I know the standard procedure that I've read about but since it's a semi auto the bolt action version doesn't apply. My set-up is nothing special.... I just use a rifle rest and sand bags for the rear of the rifle to keep it steady.. When I shoot I just use the iron sights and I feel strongly it's not me duesingthe firing phase. Impala A barrel is a barrel, the action type does not apply. No matter, I doubt that the barrel has been abused by you just shooting it. If you are not using a scope and have a standard trigger, then I would say, yes, there is a chance it is you who is tiring. Still, I would fiddle around with the placement of the front rest, ensure the bunny bag is holding the stock, and see if there is anything that might cause your stringing. What type of ammo, range, and shot groups are we talking about? RedFalcomBill, Thanks for your reply. In my case I'm not even stringing my shots. My groups hit the paper all over the place simular to a shootgun patter, In either case I can never afford enough ammo to really get some decent rounds down range. The best I can do is no more than 100 rounds in a simgle shooting secession. I was considering trying a different brand of ammo but now a days if I see any type of sale I usually try and get a few boxes. At my range I can't even shoot Wolf cuz the range master will confiscate any and all types of steel. One thing I do notice is that since it's not chrome loned the bore gets coppered up pretty fast. Impala |
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ER Shaw barrels are usually quite good shooters. Most of the TC Contender barrels were made by Shaw and they will shoot. gee223, Many people have stated about ER Shaws barrels and so perhaps mine just needs more rounds down range. However after every shoot it has to be cleaned cuz of the copper that's left inside the bore. Mine copper fouls quite fast during my outings. Currently my main isue is getting ammo cuzout here in California 223 ammo is expensive and it cause me to bring my old trusty 22 rifle instead. Impala |
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Where are you in ca, I live in la and in order to enjoy shooting you have to be proactive about building an ammo stash. If your buying your ammo at the range then you'll be spending 100 bucks everytime you go shoot. Save your money and buy in bulk from either wideners.com or check Crossroadsgunshows.com for a local upcoming gun show. You should be able to get good quality 5.56 spec brass ammo for 30$ per 100 rnds. And that's as cheap as you'll find anywhere in the country. If you buy in 500 rnd boxes you can get American eagle 5.56 tactical or a similar m193 clone from federal, imi, or pmc xtac for 27$ or less per 100rnds. Any of that ammo should be able to hold at least a 4-5 inch group with a mediocre shooter. Separate the ammo buying from the shooting and when you want to shoot it won't be such a hit on the wallet. And if the zombies come
Knocking you'll be ready. Take care! |
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