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8/21/2010 8:44:57 PM EDT
Recently, I bought a MOACKS tool to stake my Bushmaster carriers that weren't staked properly at the gas key. I have done that, and taken the extra step of indenting the top of the screws on the key against the key itself. I don't think there is ever gonna be a problem with any of these working loose. However, should I ever need to remove the key, it's gonna be a pain-in-the-ass. Do gas keys ever wear out? There isn't a whole lot of stress on them, but does the hot gas moving thru them erode them over time? I hope I never need to replace 'em.
8/22/2010 12:50:20 AM EDT
[#1]
Not this shit again. I have a bushmaster carrier with typical BM staking 12k rounds+ and not one issue. You will be fine with or without the MOACKS. If you ever have a problem 15 years from now just replace your bolt carrier you will have definitely gotten your moneys worth.
8/22/2010 2:50:12 AM EDT
[#2]
Good question. I'm sure there is a mil-spec for key wear. I have never seen it. I have seen gas tubes that had the end worn off where it goes into the key. So I guess the key could wear out too.
8/22/2010 7:04:14 AM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
Good question. I'm sure there is a mil-spec for key wear. I have never seen it. I have seen gas tubes that had the end worn off where it goes into the key. So I guess the key could wear out too.


Thanks.

8/26/2010 9:16:43 PM EDT
[#4]
I have never staked any of mine that weren't factory staked.  Never had a problem after many thousands of rounds. IMHO, staking is not necessary if the screws are properly torqued.
8/27/2010 6:13:17 AM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
I have never staked any of mine that weren't factory staked.  Never had a problem after many thousands of rounds. IMHO, staking is not necessary if the screws are properly torqued.


Even with correct torque, I have worked the crews loose. Granted it was a M16 being abused, but the stakes are insurance that cost nothing.  

OP
Even if you have to replaced the key, you have to replace the screws anyway.
8/28/2010 7:03:04 AM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I have never staked any of mine that weren't factory staked.  Never had a problem after many thousands of rounds. IMHO, staking is not necessary if the screws are properly torqued.


Even with correct torque, I have worked the crews loose. Granted it was a M16 being abused, but the stakes are insurance that cost nothing.  

OP
Even if you have to replaced the key, you have to replace the screws anyway.


Thanks for the replies. I realize if I have to replace the key, the screws will have to be replaced too. I am just wondering how I will get them out, seeing as how metal has been displaced at the top now. I may never have to, but it has me wondering how I will if I ever need to.

8/28/2010 8:01:43 AM EDT
[#7]
With a little force the screws should come right out. You could always file or dremel away some of the staked metal to make it easier if necessary.
8/28/2010 10:27:29 AM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
With a little force the screws should come right out. You could always file or dremel away some of the staked metal to make it easier if necessary.


Good idea. Didn't think about that!
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