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Posted: 2/25/2010 7:45:37 AM EDT
Hey guys Im building a new rifle and while searching for rails I keep coming back the full length Daniel Defense RISII. So Im looking for pics of them. I am undecided on whether to get black or the dark earth. Does the Dark earth match up to any other dark earth accessories?? Please post up pics of what you got and Im also looking for opinions. Thanks
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| Our RIS II Rail Systems are Mil Spec Type III Hardcoat anodized in SOCOM approved FDE. The color is darker than other FDE accesories available on the market. The darker color was necessary in order to acheive true type III hard coat anodizing. We were able to match our anodizining with most other accessories, but the andozing was too thin. USSCOM wisely choose to have the darker color with the harder finish. |
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http://stickman.rainierarms.com/galleries/Magpul%204/IMG_9608%201024%20Stick.jpg http://stickman.rainierarms.com/galleries/Magpul%204/0O2P9877-A-1028-Stick.jpg Stickman, is this a 14.5" barrel? Thanks, |
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How long is the RIS II? It looks like it will cover the gas block on a carbine, is it about as long as a mid-length rail? IF YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE MK 18 RIS II, IT'S LONGER THAN A MID-LENGTH, APPROX 9.5". http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/mstn/huge/IMG_0003_48.jpg THE M4A1 RIS II IS APPROX 12.25" IN LENGTH: http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/mstn/huge/IMG_0002-1_1.jpg Thanks Wes. That bottom pic is what I think my new upper will look like. I was looking for a rail that wold nearly meet the surefire adapter on a 16" barrel, and I want a FF rail with a removable bottom rail. Right now with a can on the carbine length rail is just too short. For better control of the weapon I need a point farther down to use as a grip. M4A1 RIS II looks like the way to go, I was thinking KAC URX II rifle length but the price and having to send it away for an install started to turn me away. Edit: I'm still a little confused, are there two versions of this rail? I see some pictures like yours with a continuous upper rail (to use with low-pro gas block) and others with a cutout for a FSB. |
| The RIS II M4A1 is 12.25" long as Wes has already stated. It will cover up a low pro gas block on a mid length gas system. However, you will more than likely have to remove the M203 hangers from inside of the rail sytem in order to have enough clearance for your gas block. |
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So quick question and not meaning to steal the thread but will these work on a 14.5" carbine w/ a pinned FH? If your muzzle devise is already permanently attached, then no. To install this rail system requires completely stripping your barrel in order to install the proprietary mounting system and barrel nut. |
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So quick question and not meaning to steal the thread but will these work on a 14.5" carbine w/ a pinned FH? If your muzzle devise is already permanently attached, then no. To install this rail system requires completely stripping your barrel in order to install the proprietary mounting system and barrel nut. Thanks, I may have to look at putting one of these on my 16" then. |
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The RIS II M4A1 is 12.25" long as Wes has already stated. It will cover up a low pro gas block on a mid length gas system. However, you will more than likely have to remove the M203 hangers from inside of the rail sytem in order to have enough clearance for your gas block. Thanks for the information. Is removing the M203 hangers something easily done or do they need to be cut/ground off? I've never seen an RIS II so I have no idea what the hangers even look like, I know this might be a stupid question. |
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The RIS II M4A1 is 12.25" long as Wes has already stated. It will cover up a low pro gas block on a mid length gas system. However, you will more than likely have to remove the M203 hangers from inside of the rail sytem in order to have enough clearance for your gas block. Thanks for the information. Is removing the M203 hangers something easily done or do they need to be cut/ground off? I've never seen an RIS II so I have no idea what the hangers even look like, I know this might be a stupid question. Popping hangers off is a 30 second job, they are screwed on. |
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The RIS II M4A1 is 12.25" long as Wes has already stated. It will cover up a low pro gas block on a mid length gas system. However, you will more than likely have to remove the M203 hangers from inside of the rail sytem in order to have enough clearance for your gas block. Thanks for the information. Is removing the M203 hangers something easily done or do they need to be cut/ground off? I've never seen an RIS II so I have no idea what the hangers even look like, I know this might be a stupid question. Popping hangers off is a 30 second job, they are screwed on. I figured that would be the case. The next rail I purchase will be a black M4A1 RIS II. |
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Cool looking for sure, but the main reason I like DD rails is the oval cross-section, which was not part of the RIS II design. I'm assuming that's something the military dictated. See the oval cross section is what held me back from the Lite. I'm glad the RIS II has the tighter cross section. It will fit my hands better. |
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Cool looking for sure, but the main reason I like DD rails is the oval cross-section, which was not part of the RIS II design. I'm assuming that's something the military dictated. See the oval cross section is what held me back from the Lite. I'm glad the RIS II has the tighter cross section. It will fit my hands better. I wanna do an M16A4 clone next, and I may use this rail with it, as I still like it. One thing this rail isn't is cheap. 
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So quick question and not meaning to steal the thread but will these work on a 14.5" carbine w/ a pinned FH? If your muzzle devise is already permanently attached, then no. To install this rail system requires completely stripping your barrel in order to install the proprietary mounting system and barrel nut. Does the RIS II have the same cut-outs in the rear wall at 6 and 12 o'clock for a low-profile gas block to slide over? |
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The RIS II M4A1 is 12.25" long as Wes has already stated. It will cover up a low pro gas block on a mid length gas system. However, you will more than likely have to remove the M203 hangers from inside of the rail sytem in order to have enough clearance for your gas block. Thanks for the information. Is removing the M203 hangers something easily done or do they need to be cut/ground off? I've never seen an RIS II so I have no idea what the hangers even look like, I know this might be a stupid question. Popping hangers off is a 30 second job, they are screwed on. I figured that would be the case. The next rail I purchase will be a black M4A1 RIS II. Looks like they only come in that goldish dark FDE color, so I ordered mine today. Can't wait for it to get here, it will go on my new BCM upper receiver and DD CHF barrel. |
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The DD RIS rails are not gold in any sense of the word. They are brown more than anything else. I just looked at some more pics and you're right. It looks like lighting made it appear "goldish" in a few pics I saw. It certainly looks dark compared to regular FDE (I know it is because of the anodizing from the DD forum) but I really don't care about looks. I was going to get a black one if they had it since my rifle has black furniture, but since they don't I ordered anyway because the RIS II has all of the features I want at a reasonable price. |
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