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10/1/2009 4:13:55 PM EDT
Guys I have a 14.5 inch barrel with a pinned low pro. gas block, it also has a perm. attached YHM flash hider. I need a rail system that will extend past the gas block, and will NOT require the removal of anything. If there is such a rail system please link to it.


10/1/2009 4:17:36 PM EDT
[#1]
look for 2 piece free floats.......MI, Troy, Samson.................
10/1/2009 4:24:02 PM EDT
[#2]
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look for 2 piece free floats.......MI, Troy, Samson.................


MI I won't use, neither Samson, I don't know to much about Troy, heard some good, some bad. I want a rail that will take a beating.
10/1/2009 4:40:01 PM EDT
[#3]
Those are pretty much your choices and good choices IMO............I would use the TROY MRF(I do), if not, you can always go UTG!
10/1/2009 4:50:32 PM EDT
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Those are pretty much your choices and good choices IMO............I would use the TROY MRF(I do), if not, you can always go UTG!


How do you like like the Troy, do you have any movement, any flexing of the rails?
10/1/2009 5:17:19 PM EDT
[#5]
Solid as a rock!  I would say go with DD or LaRue but you cant.........
10/1/2009 5:24:41 PM EDT
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Solid as a rock!  I would say go with DD or LaRue but you cant.........


Well I guess I could buy the rails and a new flash hider and send the whole package to ADCO and have them build the upper and re-perm the flash hider.

10/1/2009 5:54:40 PM EDT
[#7]
Would the DD omega work?
10/1/2009 6:03:57 PM EDT
[#8]
DD OMEGA
10/1/2009 6:07:53 PM EDT
[#9]
The DD Omega uses the delta ring so it's not going to work.
10/1/2009 6:09:43 PM EDT
[#10]
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The DD Omega uses the delta ring so it's not going to work.


I am assuming that the barrel will be installed on an upper at some point so is there a reason why there wouldent be a delta ring?
10/1/2009 6:14:28 PM EDT
[#11]



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The DD Omega uses the delta ring so it's not going to work.




I am assuming that the barrel will be installed on an upper at some point so is there a reason why there wouldent be a delta ring?


It needs to be installed before the barrel nut.



 
10/1/2009 6:25:02 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
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look for 2 piece free floats.......MI, Troy, Samson.................


MI I won't use, neither Samson, I don't know to much about Troy, heard some good, some bad. I want a rail that will take a beating.


Why ? All are good rails  !
10/1/2009 6:31:50 PM EDT
[#13]
I would look at the 10" Troy. I have a Samson. And it is a nice rail.  Dont know much about the MI. Only seen a few. But from what I saw they were nice also.
10/1/2009 6:45:08 PM EDT
[#14]



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The DD Omega uses the delta ring so it's not going to work.




I am assuming that the barrel will be installed on an upper at some point so is there a reason why there wouldent be a delta ring?


It needs to be installed before the barrel nut.

 


Ummm.. not so much
 
10/1/2009 6:50:24 PM EDT
[#15]
Most that don't use the Delta Ring require the use of a proprietary barrel nut.

It may be best to send it off, have the flash hider removed, the rail of your choice installed, and then the flash hider repinned.

I reccomend ADCO.

Or get your SBR stamp and forget the drama.

Your choice.  

-BDHershey
10/1/2009 6:50:59 PM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:

Quoted:
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The DD Omega uses the delta ring so it's not going to work.


I am assuming that the barrel will be installed on an upper at some point so is there a reason why there wouldent be a delta ring?

It needs to be installed before the barrel nut.
 


Negatory on that one!

I just put a delta ring assembly together a few days ago.  Purchase a "Delta Ring Kit" (Delta ring, weld spring, snap ring) and obtain/make a set of snap-ring pliers.  Insert the weld spring into the delta ring, and slide the delta ring and weld spring over the barrel nut from the rear of the barrel.  Using the snap ring pliers, maneuver the snap ring over the barrel nut from the rear, and place it into the groove in the rear of the barrel nut.  This will retain the delta ring and weld spring.
10/1/2009 6:57:56 PM EDT
[#17]



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The DD Omega uses the delta ring so it's not going to work.




I am assuming that the barrel will be installed on an upper at some point so is there a reason why there wouldent be a delta ring?


It needs to be installed before the barrel nut.

 




Negatory on that one!



I just put a delta ring assembly together a few days ago.  Purchase a "Delta Ring Kit" (Delta ring, weld spring, snap ring) and obtain/make a set of snap-ring pliers.  Insert the weld spring into the delta ring, and slide the delta ring and weld spring over the barrel nut from the rear of the barrel.  Using the snap ring pliers, maneuver the snap ring over the barrel nut from the rear, and place it into the groove in the rear of the barrel nut.  This will retain the delta ring and weld spring.


Didn't know I could do that.  Thanks for the info.



 
10/1/2009 7:05:17 PM EDT
[#18]
You need to take a look at Troy's new TRX Battle Rail series of rails. They look extremely well built and I have had great luck with Troy and Samson rails.
10/1/2009 7:34:00 PM EDT
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You need to take a look at Troy's new TRX Battle Rail series of rails. They look extremely well built and I have had great luck with Troy and Samson rails.


believe those use a proprietary barrel nut though.



 
10/2/2009 3:11:22 AM EDT
[#20]
What about this DD rail from Bravo, does it require me to remove anything?

DD Rail on Bravos website
10/2/2009 9:05:25 AM EDT
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What about this DD rail from Bravo, does it require me to remove anything?

DD Rail on Bravos website


Yes, that is a ONE piece rail. Your choices are pretty much what I stated in my first reply.
The Troy MRF rail is a good rail.

http://www.troyind.com/MRFRails.html
10/2/2009 9:22:32 AM EDT
[#22]
You could also have the FH removed and put on any rail you choose. It's not extremely hard to do.
10/2/2009 2:58:52 PM EDT
[#23]
I'll second (or third, fourth, whichever it is) the Troy rail systems. They're great. Solid as a rock.

-Ed
10/2/2009 9:11:46 PM EDT
[#24]
troys are fine..

and Midwest industries too
10/3/2009 7:36:28 PM EDT
[#25]
Troy or Samson
10/3/2009 8:03:41 PM EDT
[#26]
Troy products are great and they back it up with great customer service.  I have lost the detent that locks the bottom rail onto the top.  I asked to buy a replacement as I lost it and they sent 4 to me for free.  Then they asked if there was anything else they can help me with.  Troy also replies to emails with in hours or the next business day if you email after hours.  The rail locks up tight and is very durable.

Samson products are great, but follow up is weak.  I am still 'waiting' on a barrel clamp for their AK K-rail they said they would make me from October of 2008.  I specifically asked if it would fit my Saiga 308 before buying and they said no problem that they would make a barrel clamp for me.  They haven't returned multiple emails or phone calls on the issue.  So I finally gave up on them.  I realized it is a pain in the ass to make a custom barrel clamp, but I didn't ask for one.  Samson volunteered one and then flaked out.  Also note this was pre-election 2008.  So while their products are well made and simillar to Troy, I personally will choose Troy over them because I can get support afterward if I need it.  I personally can't say the same for Samson.

MI are good values for the money.  It locks up nice and tight.  The finish is also well done.  But I personally prefer the Troy over the MI, although I do have a MI rail on my carbine.

The Troy, Samson & MI that clamp onto the barrel nut are a bit bulkier than other rail systems.  But they are excellent options if you don't want to or can't remove the gas block.
10/3/2009 10:12:19 PM EDT
[#27]
Go with the Troy. It locks up solid and is an easy install.

My friend has the MI's on his carbine and they are wide and bulky maker it harder to get a nice grip on. Lots of little allen head screws to go missing or strip too.
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