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Posted: 7/1/2009 10:17:22 PM EDT
| How do y'all rate your DD lite rail to other rails? is it more durable than others, or is it a over-all bad design? i HAD a 12" Lite rail which worked great until i took it out of the box and started using it, i first noticed it moved slightly but didn't think much of it, the movement increased to where it would actually hit my barrel, at this point it was approx. 2 months old max. It was installed correctly and taken good care of, however the welds broke just from handling the rifle by the rail, thankfully i found it has a lifetime warranty so im shipping it back which is a huge pain in the ass to take off the gun. Im wondering if its a bad design because i dont see how something bolted on the front like the lite rail could be strong at all out on the end, maybe the shorter rails are stronger but i don't see how the 12" could ever be strong. i think i will give it another try, and if it fails may have to go with another rail. also, heres a dumb question: are the holes along the top of the rail for a QD sling point or just more vents? |
| I love my DD Lite rails. If you had them installed correctly, you shouldn't be getting any movement whatsoever. And by the way, all free float rails only connect at the rear; if it contacted the barrel at any other point, it'd kill the point of the free float, no? |
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I've used 14", 12", and 10" Lite rails and never had any problems with them. I fail to see how removing it is a huge pain in the ass unless you have something like a pinned suppressor mount or a really chunky gas block. Unscrew six cap screws and the rail slides right off. I'd like to see a picture of the failure.
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How do y'all rate your DD lite rail to other rails? is it more durable than others, or is it a over-all bad design? i HAD a 12" Lite rail which worked great until i took it out of the box and started using it, i first noticed it moved slightly but didn't think much of it, the movement increased to where it would actually hit my barrel, at this point it was approx. 2 months old max. It was installed correctly and taken good care of, however the welds broke just from handling the rifle by the rail, thankfully i found it has a lifetime warranty so im shipping it back which is a huge pain in the ass to take off the gun. Im wondering if its a bad design because i dont see how something bolted on the front like the lite rail could be strong at all out on the end, maybe the shorter rails are stronger but i don't see how the 12" could ever be strong. i think i will give it another try, and if it fails may have to go with another rail. also, heres a dumb question: are the holes along the top of the rail for a QD sling point or just more vents? Post pics, I have to see this. |
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They're the strongest, lightest, highest quality, best looking rails on the earth. If it was loose, you installed it wrong, or it was a china made knock off.
ETA: Just about everyone I know uses DD rails. Never, not once, have I seen one break from hard use. I saw one ran over by an aircrarft carrier once, yet no damage at all. Yes im pulling crap out of thin air here just to show how easy it is to make up a story. |
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Nope, never had an issue. this. i have 2 9"ers and they are awesome. here's one 
I've even got some video that shows you what really happens when you shoot a rifle with this rail. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQ1460AMD_E You will notice a lot of barrel flex, and minimal receiver/rail flex. I'd say the setup is pretty damned solid. |
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i know my one 10" lite rail is a very small segment of the market but i like it so much i picked up the MK18 RIS II for my SBR. the fact that i'm very rough on my gear and the DD rail has yet to budge is a good indicator to me that it's well made. if my gear and equipment can't take the abuse then what's the point? now i know there will be guys that say "...oh, well my UTG rail has never failed..." well, i call BS. UTG is a failure from the start it's just a matter of time or it's not really being used. your DD on the other hand is a top quality part. if, and that's a BIG IF, your rail did break then it's more of an anomaly and that will be where the warranty comes in. sorry brother but without pictures of the broken weld it's hard to take you seriously. |
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Troll or smoking crack. |
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I love my DD Lite rails. If you had them installed correctly, you shouldn't be getting any movement whatsoever. And by the way, all free float rails only connect at the rear; if it contacted the barrel at any other point, it'd kill the point of the free float, no? This. I love my DD Lite 10". Installed by Adco, no movement at all. I'm pretty sure I'll use DD rails from here on out! |
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LOL ROFLOL This is probably the CORRECT answer! |
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We have a winner. 
That has to be it. I didn't know there were junk copies made of the Lite Rail...but I should have known. 
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That has to be it. I didn't know there were junk copies made of the Lite Rail...but I should have known.
So if he did have a fake Lite rail, I wonder if he sent it to Daniel Defense..... |
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It isn't completely out of the question for a DD rail to fail.
http://lightfighter.net/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/9046084761/m/884101603/p/2?f=9046084761&a=tpc&m=884101603&s=7336015661&p=2 With that said the OP is likely full of shit saying the welds broke just from being hand held |
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Ive used 9, 10 and two 12 inch lite rails. They are tanks of outmost quality despite their lightweight. Pics of said failure or Im calling bullshit. Either that or is was just installed wrong. I posted the pics about a week ago the thread was " problems and more problems" It was a pain in the ass becuase I can't afford all the tools so I have to make due with what I have. It was installed correctly a weld cracked. I can't post any pics cuz I shipped it out yesterday. It always moved from the start between the plate on the front of the rail and the rest of the rail. Not sure how that could have been my fault |
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Ive used 9, 10 and two 12 inch lite rails. They are tanks of outmost quality despite their lightweight. Pics of said failure or Im calling bullshit. Either that or is was just installed wrong. I posted the pics about a week ago the thread was " problems and more problems" It was a pain in the ass becuase I can't afford all the tools so I have to make due with what I have. It was installed correctly a weld cracked. I can't post any pics cuz I shipped it out yesterday. It always moved from the start between the plate on the front of the rail and the rest of the rail. Not sure how that could have been my fault If it cracked then you mounted it wrong. |
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It isn't completely out of the question for a DD rail to fail. http://lightfighter.net/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/9046084761/m/884101603/p/2?f=9046084761&a=tpc&m=884101603&s=7336015661&p=2 With that said the OP is likely full of shit saying the welds broke just from being hand held Its not out of the question for any part to fail if placed in the right conditions. |
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We have a winner.
That has to be it. I didn't know there were junk copies made of the Lite Rail...but I should have known.
When people say I broke a larue mount or arms throw lever, DD rail cracked this or that I roll my eyes. There are china copies of every part you can think of. They even copy the brand name as well. So the " I touched my DD rail and it broke. " is BS. ETA: Ive owned stuff from all of these companies for years and have used them pretty rough. Never broke any of them yet. Its not going to happen unless I move to the sand box and get hit with an rpg or ied.....and still, that might not break one. |
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Ive used 9, 10 and two 12 inch lite rails. They are tanks of outmost quality despite their lightweight. Pics of said failure or Im calling bullshit. Either that or is was just installed wrong. I posted the pics about a week ago the thread was " problems and more problems" It was a pain in the ass becuase I can't afford all the tools so I have to make due with what I have. It was installed correctly a weld cracked. I can't post any pics cuz I shipped it out yesterday. It always moved from the start between the plate on the front of the rail and the rest of the rail. Not sure how that could have been my fault You didn't even post pictures of your problem in that thread. IIRC it was just a random pic of a Lite rail with an arrow pointing to where it cracked, hardly helpful to us. Please be sure to let us know how DD handled it. Personally I don't get how a crack at that point could make the whole rail fail, there are 4 spot welds around the circumference of the rail. To bust all of them, you'd have to really beat up on the rail. If you used the wrong length cap screw in that central hole, you could probably do it, but I don't see how anybody could do that or why they would do it. Did you install it yourself? If you didn't have the tools for the job how did you accomplish it? You spent all that money on premium gear and couldn't afford a Bondhaus allen wrench? Something doesn't add up. From the other thread I got the impression that you had a Noveske SPR barrel and the gun wasn't running. Did you ever get it sorted out? Your old thread |
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Ive used 9, 10 and two 12 inch lite rails. They are tanks of outmost quality despite their lightweight. Pics of said failure or Im calling bullshit. Either that or is was just installed wrong. I posted the pics about a week ago the thread was " problems and more problems" It was a pain in the ass becuase I can't afford all the tools so I have to make due with what I have. It was installed correctly a weld cracked. I can't post any pics cuz I shipped it out yesterday. It always moved from the start between the plate on the front of the rail and the rest of the rail. Not sure how that could have been my fault You didn't even post pictures of your problem in that thread. IIRC it was just a random pic of a Lite rail with an arrow pointing to where it cracked, hardly helpful to us. Please be sure to let us know how DD handled it. Personally I don't get how a crack at that point could make the whole rail fail, there are 4 spot welds around the circumference of the rail. To bust all of them, you'd have to really beat up on the rail. If you used the wrong length cap screw in that central hole, you could probably do it, but I don't see how anybody could do that or why they would do it. Did you install it yourself? If you didn't have the tools for the job how did you accomplish it? You spent all that money on premium gear and couldn't afford a Bondhaus allen wrench? Something doesn't add up. From the other thread I got the impression that you had a Noveske SPR barrel and the gun wasn't running. Did you ever get it sorted out? Your old thread Taking a crayola and writing "Noveske" on a rifle doesnt make it a Noveske.
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| Can you genius' give us one logical, mature reason why the OP would come on here and (obviously as someone fairly new to ARs) try and start a war over this? The guy was simply looking for some feed back and guidance. He didn't come here and attack DD in any way. HE WAS ONLY LOOKING FOR HELP!! And here we go, the same mob of tough guys pile on, trying to one up each other on the cool slapdowns. Oh wait a minute, I forgot. Most of you are "auxilliary cops", members of the Mayberry Swat team, or you've been to a couple of Carbine classes. How are managing to hold our own in Iraq and Afghanistan with all our top operators over here hanging out on AR15.com? Oh eah, the OP is is defintely the Gomer here. |
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Can you genius' give us one logical, mature reason why the OP would come on here and (obviously as someone fairly new to ARs) try and start a war over this? The guy was simply looking for some feed back and guidance. He didn't come here and attack DD in any way. HE WAS ONLY LOOKING FOR HELP!! And here we go, the same mob of tough guys pile on, trying to one up each other on the cool slapdowns. Oh wait a minute, I forgot. Most of you are "auxilliary cops", members of the Mayberry Swat team, or you've been to a couple of Carbine classes. How are managing to hold our own in Iraq and Afghanistan with all our top operators over here hanging out on AR15.com? Oh eah, the OP is is defintely the Gomer here. Damn angry dude .It's a hobby to most of us .I'm a salesman and I have never shot at another human being and hope i never do . but I still have an opinion of acessories for my AR's . |
| I dunno, I wonder if I (or any member with high post counts) posted it, would I be called a troll too? Give the OP a chance to post pictures, anything could happen. I recall a thread where a DD handguard had lots of metal shavings on and around it, out of the box, it is possible to get a lemon that made it out of QC. |
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Can you genius' give us one logical, mature reason why the OP would come on here and (obviously as someone fairly new to ARs) try and start a war over this? The guy was simply looking for some feed back and guidance. He didn't come here and attack DD in any way. HE WAS ONLY LOOKING FOR HELP!! And here we go, the same mob of tough guys pile on, trying to one up each other on the cool slapdowns. Oh wait a minute, I forgot. Most of you are "auxilliary cops", members of the Mayberry Swat team, or you've been to a couple of Carbine classes. How are managing to hold our own in Iraq and Afghanistan with all our top operators over here hanging out on AR15.com? Oh eah, the OP is is defintely the Gomer here. Ya I work for mayberry pd and flip burgers full time when im not out busting meth labs. Dont presume you know anythinig about anyone on this site, because you dont. There are quite a few arfcom members who have been there, done that and got the t-shirt. 
ETA: I doubt the OP's claims because its a troll post nothing more. |
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I dunno, I wonder if I (or any member with high post counts) posted it, would I be called a troll too? Give the OP a chance to post pictures, anything could happen. I recall a thread where a DD handguard had lots of metal shavings on and around it, out of the box, it is possible to get a lemon that made it out of QC. Hey you know how it works here, pics or BS. 
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The OP can't even keep his story straight.
He said he can't post a picture because he has already sent it back to DD. But in another post he claims to not own a camera. Which is it? You lie here and you will be caught and called a lying troll. I still think he bought a china copy. |
| man you guys are crazy around here, gpo1956 thanks for the support. i came here telling people i am a newb and dont know a whole lot about ar's. im no dumbass i know i installed the rail right. my last topic did show exactly where the rail broke. Im sorry im not on a steady job, im only a college kid who did miscellaneous work for the past two years to save up for a gun. so no i dont have a digital camera and no i dont have the tools to take the rail off which is why it was a pain in the ass for me. i did get my cycling problem fixed to who ever asked, the gas rings were bent open too much, obviously from the person who hastily put them on. i am a fan of DD for their rails and for their willingness to stand behind their product. I dont know how this makes me a troll or other BS you guys are throwing out there. ill update once DD sends me a new rail. i ordered all my parts from pkfirearms.com and rainerarms.com so you can argue with them if they sell crap or not or fake noveske barrels for that matter. |
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Can you genius' give us one logical, mature reason why the OP would come on here and (obviously as someone fairly new to ARs) try and start a war over this? The guy was simply looking for some feed back and guidance. He didn't come here and attack DD in any way. HE WAS ONLY LOOKING FOR HELP!! And here we go, the same mob of tough guys pile on, trying to one up each other on the cool slapdowns. Oh wait a minute, I forgot. Most of you are "auxilliary cops", members of the Mayberry Swat team, or you've been to a couple of Carbine classes. How are managing to hold our own in Iraq and Afghanistan with all our top operators over here hanging out on AR15.com? Oh eah, the OP is is defintely the Gomer here. Ya I work for mayberry pd and flip burgers full time when im not out busting meth labs. Dont presume you know anythinig about anyone on this site, because you dont. There are quite a few arfcom members who have been there, done that and got the t-shirt.
ETA: I doubt the OP's claims because its a troll post nothing more. I may be wrong, but it seems to me that the posers are the only ones who would feel "persecuted" by my post. I really wonder how many of those "who have been there, done that and got the t-shirt" go by Jonny Flashbang and advertise their "operator" affiliation on their avatars? You are correct on one thing. There are a lot of the real deal here on this site, but, as has been pointed out by others, they are very easy to identify. |
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man you guys are crazy around here, gpo1956 thanks for the support. i came here telling people i am a newb and dont know a whole lot about ar's. im no dumbass i know i installed the rail right. my last topic did show exactly where the rail broke. Im sorry im not on a steady job, im only a college kid who did miscellaneous work for the past two years to save up for a gun. so no i dont have a digital camera and no i dont have the tools to take the rail off which is why it was a pain in the ass for me. i did get my cycling problem fixed to who ever asked, the gas rings were bent open too much, obviously from the person who hastily put them on. i am a fan of DD for their rails and for their willingness to stand behind their product. I dont know how this makes me a troll or other BS you guys are throwing out there. ill update once DD sends me a new rail. i ordered all my parts from pkfirearms.com and rainerarms.com so you can argue with them if they sell crap or not or fake noveske barrels for that matter. I highlighted the key parts of your post for you. You know little to nothing about these rifles yet you are positive that you installed it correctly. You had tools to assemble, yet no tools to dis-assemble?  
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Ive used 9, 10 and two 12 inch lite rails. They are tanks of outmost quality despite their lightweight. Pics of said failure or Im calling bullshit. Either that or is was just installed wrong. I posted the pics about a week ago the thread was " problems and more problems" It was a pain in the ass becuase I can't afford all the tools so I have to make due with what I have. It was installed correctly a weld cracked. I can't post any pics cuz I shipped it out yesterday. It always moved from the start between the plate on the front of the rail and the rest of the rail. Not sure how that could have been my fault Not using the correct tools yet you are sure that it was "installed correctly". It moved from the beginning and you sensed something was wrong, yet you did not ask the manufacturer if it was normal. Quoted:
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man you guys are crazy around here, gpo1956 thanks for the support. i came here telling people i am a newb and dont know a whole lot about ar's. im no dumbass i know i installed the rail right. my last topic did show exactly where the rail broke. Im sorry im not on a steady job, im only a college kid who did miscellaneous work for the past two years to save up for a gun. so no i dont have a digital camera and no i dont have the tools to take the rail off which is why it was a pain in the ass for me. i did get my cycling problem fixed to who ever asked, the gas rings were bent open too much, obviously from the person who hastily put them on. i am a fan of DD for their rails and for their willingness to stand behind their product. I dont know how this makes me a troll or other BS you guys are throwing out there. ill update once DD sends me a new rail. i ordered all my parts from pkfirearms.com and rainerarms.com so you can argue with them if they sell crap or not or fake noveske barrels for that matter. I highlighted the key parts of your post for you. You know little to nothing about these rifles yet you are positive that you installed it correctly. What a jackass. By not having the right tools I don't have a good set of punches to remove the pinned block. They are old and bent. It's no wonder people hate cops and think they are jackasses such as your self. There's a few out there that are good but most think they are badasses because they carry a pistol and eat donuts. What the hell did I do to anger somany people. Just because I know little of ar's doesn't mean I have no mechanical no- how. I'm pretty damn sure I have more than you growing up on a ranch. You learn a lot more you will never get the chance to do in the city. Your a bad ass you can talk some real shit on the Internet I bet that gets all the ladies for u. Come post again when u got the stick out of ur @$$ and arnt on a technical forum to try and sound like a bad ass making u feel better about ur pathetic self, low life scum. You had tools to assemble, yet no tools to dis-assemble?
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Ive used 9, 10 and two 12 inch lite rails. They are tanks of outmost quality despite their lightweight. Pics of said failure or Im calling bullshit. Either that or is was just installed wrong. I posted the pics about a week ago the thread was " problems and more problems" It was a pain in the ass becuase I can't afford all the tools so I have to make due with what I have. It was installed correctly a weld cracked. I can't post any pics cuz I shipped it out yesterday. It always moved from the start between the plate on the front of the rail and the rest of the rail. Not sure how that could have been my fault Not using the correct tools yet you are sure that it was "installed correctly". It moved from the beginning and you sensed something was wrong, yet you did not ask the manufacturer if it was normal. Quoted:
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What a jackass. By not having the right tools I don't have a good set of punches to remove the pinned block. They are old and bent. It's no wonder people hate cops and think they are jackasses such as your self. There's a few out there that are good but most think they are badasses because they carry a pistol and eat donuts. What the hell did I do to anger somany people. Just because I know little of ar's doesn't mean I have no mechanical no- how. I'm pretty damn sure I have more than you growing up on a ranch. You learn a lot more you will never get the chance to do in the city. Your a bad ass you can talk some real shit on the Internet I bet that gets all the ladies for u. Come post again when u got the stick out of ur @$$ and arnt on a technical forum to try and sound like a bad ass making u feel better about ur pathetic self, low life scum. 
You've made claims and offered no proof to back-up your statements. Many others have pointed out inconsistencies in your posts. You have resorted to personal attacks when you are unable to express yourself in a clear, logical, and non-derogatory manner. |
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