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Posted: 2/10/2009 4:52:11 PM EDT
| any good? worth 119.00 bucks? Im looking for a good comfortable stock to put on my rifle....and ran across these. |
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I have a carbine modstock and it's great. Two things though. Mine does have a very slight amount of play between the stock and buffer tube (very minor) and the battery compartment only fits 6 CR123a's (3 on each side). It's about an inch to short for the fourth row so you have put something else in with the batteries to stop them from moving. |
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I have 2 and they're pretty nice. One of mine was really tight and loosened up a tiny bit..still not as bad as a normal m4 stock. My other one fits pretty snug on the buffer tube. My buffer tubes are Vltor as well.
I'd like to try the Magpul CTR and UBR stocks, but I like my Vltor's enough that I'm not going to sell them. |
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Yes, Vltor are good, they're one of the best stocks in the market.
My first one was a standard carbine modstock way back in '05 and I also have the clubfoot and EMOD models, all are pretty good. I would recommend the EMOD for front heavy carbines and rifles to balance the weight. |
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Well I just ordered one from area51 tactical...I shall blame all of you if my wife finds out!!!  I'm sure that you'll like it. When my wife saw my new tan Vltor clubfoot stock (my older one was a black std carbine modstock), she asked me if it was new, I told her that I just glued on the clubfoot and painted my old stock in the garage.
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They are one of the best on the market behind the LMT SOPMOD if you want to put batteries in your stiock, and behind the CTR if you don't. They are much better than the other stocks on the market when you don't compare them to these two.
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Yes, Vltor are good, they're one of the best stocks in the market. My first one was a standard carbine modstock way back in '05 and I also have the clubfoot and EMOD models, all are pretty good. I would recommend the EMOD for front heavy carbines and rifles to balance the weight. |
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They are one of the best on the market behind the LMT SOPMOD if you want to put batteries in your stiock, and behind the CTR if you don't. They are much better than the other stocks on the market when you don't compare them to these two. Quoted:
Yes, Vltor are good, they're one of the best stocks in the market. My first one was a standard carbine modstock way back in '05 and I also have the clubfoot and EMOD models, all are pretty good. I would recommend the EMOD for front heavy carbines and rifles to balance the weight. I don't totally agree with your opinion that the SOPMOD and the CTR stocks are better than the Vltor. In what features of the stocks are they superior with let's say the EMOD, the EMOD have a larger volume of storage, longer, you don't have to remove it from the buffer tube to get access to the compartments, the bottom angle of the EMOD's buttpad are more comfortable, cost of the SOPMOD are almost doubled, and there are threads around here that stated the EMOD is the only surviver of the USMC drop test. The CTR is also a very good stock but for different missions, it doesn't have a storage compartment and the cheek weld not as good as the Vltor. |
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The EMOD's only weakness I perceive is its butterfly latch. When I had mine I rigged a standard chevron type lever on it.
The EMOD is superior to the SOPMOD, it has built-in QD sling swivel attachment point, aluminum strike plate, angled butt pad and toe, access to storage without removing the stock. Not to mention Vltor reinforced the area around the release lever pin, without the reinforcement, if you forgot to collapse the stock while trying to extract a stuck case/cartridge by holding the charging handle while ramming the rifle on the ground (butt first), it won't elongate the hole (on the stock through which the pin goes) into an oval shape. The only improvement made by LMT on the SOPMOD, other than a new color, is the additional of built-in QD sling swivel attachment points. 
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| I never figured the movement along the receiver extension was an issue, Rich of Magpul explained it bothered him and a non-moving carbine stock was conducive to better shooting, I just never had a carbine stock that moved that hinders handling or accuracy. Rich knows more about it than I do, just because my opinion and experience differ, it doesn't make the case for non-moving carbine stock invalid. All of my Colt stocks move a little, my Vltor and LMT move too even if they were tight when new, I just take the movement as a matter of course, as surely as a tire will wear, I'm no worse off because of it. |
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I never figured the movement along the receiver extension was an issue, Rich of Magpul explained it bothered him and a non-moving carbine stock was conducive to better shooting, I just never had a carbine stock that moved that hinders handling or accuracy. Rich knows more about it than I do, just because my opinion and experience differ, it doesn't make the case for non-moving carbine stock invalid. All of my Colt stocks move a little, my Vltor and LMT move too even if they were tight when new, I just take the movement as a matter of course, as surely as a tire will wear, I'm no worse off because of it. Same here. I don't really care if mine moves or not. If it doesn't move, cool. If it moves a little, fine. If it rattles like a macarena, I feel nostalgic for my issued M4. |
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The EMOD's only weakness I perceive is its butterfly latch. When I had mine I rigged a standard chevron type lever on it. The EMOD is superior to the SOPMOD, it has built-in QD sling swivel attachment point, aluminum strike plate, angled butt pad and toe, access to storage without removing the stock. Not to mention Vltor reinforced the area around the release lever pin, without the reinforcement, if you forgot to collapse the stock while trying to extract a stuck case/cartridge by holding the charging handle while ramming the rifle on the ground (butt first), it won't elongate the hole (on the stock through which the pin goes) into an oval shape. The only improvement made by LMT on the SOPMOD, other than a new color, is the additional of built-in QD sling swivel attachment points. http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i314/Duffypoo/EMOD1.jpg http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i314/Duffypoo/EMOD2.jpg http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i314/Duffypoo/EMOD3.jpg +1 on the strike plate. I wish my sopmod had a strike plate. Ben |
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The EMOD's only weakness I perceive is its butterfly latch. When I had mine I rigged a standard chevron type lever on it. The EMOD is superior to the SOPMOD, it has built-in QD sling swivel attachment point, aluminum strike plate, angled butt pad and toe, access to storage without removing the stock. Not to mention Vltor reinforced the area around the release lever pin, without the reinforcement, if you forgot to collapse the stock while trying to extract a stuck case/cartridge by holding the charging handle while ramming the rifle on the ground (butt first), it won't elongate the hole (on the stock through which the pin goes) into an oval shape. The only improvement made by LMT on the SOPMOD, other than a new color, is the additional of built-in QD sling swivel attachment points. http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i314/Duffypoo/EMOD1.jpg http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i314/Duffypoo/EMOD2.jpg http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i314/Duffypoo/EMOD3.jpg How did you replace the latch lever? Did you just punch out the pin and replace it with a standard M4 stock? Do you replace anything else, or just the lever? Thanks |
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Yep, punched out the rolled pin, unscrew the nut, but I had to shave off a little material on the back of the chevron latch, or it'd get in the way of the battery storage compartment and would not allow you to depress the latch all the way.
In this pic you can see where my trusty Dremel had ground off the excess material on the edge 
Of course if you do what I did, you'd have a smaller area on the stock for your not-shooting hand to grab onto. |
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Yep, punched out the rolled pin, unscrew the nut, but I had to shave off a little material on the back of the chevron latch, or it'd get in the way of the battery storage compartment and would not allow you to depress the latch all the way. In this pic you can see where my trusty Dremel had ground off the excess material on the edge
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i314/Duffypoo/EMOD2.jpg Of course if you do what I did, you'd have a smaller area on the stock for your not-shooting hand to grab onto. Thanks... your EMOD mod is my next project. Hope you don't mind me borrowing your pic to use as a reference. I promise to eat it after I'm done. 
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| I have a standard carbine Modstock that I bought used with some spray paint on it & a lot worn off. It fits up well to my Stag receiver extension & while the battery storage compartments could be a little longer they're just right for 2 CR123s & 1AA on each side. I cut some small spacers for between the batteries from some of the EAR foam plugs. No rattling & keeps the batteries from hitting each other in there. The only thing I have to compare it to is a standard Stag M4 stock. The wobbli-ness of the Stag stock doesn't bother me, but the storage & improved cheek weld are nice. |
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