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Posted: 8/18/2008 5:05:06 PM EDT
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Has anyone heard ANYTHING about Sabre Defence rifles, good or bad? I have mentioned that company in a few of my posts and I never get a response. I am trying to build a complete patrol rifle, with sling, light, optic, everything, for under $2000. I am trying to buy the best, most reliable rifle I can afford. I can't afford Noveske, I already checked. There are so many names it's hard to know what's what. I've heard Stag, Bushmaster, RRA, etc. tossed around but don't know how they all rank. So besides my question about Sabre, what is the best setup money can buy for $2000? Thanks. J |
| Sabre has an ISO 9001 certification, has .mil contracts for Mini-gun barrels, M2 receivers and barrels and was recently awarded a small contract for Navy and USMC M16's. I'd say that they have the capacity to produce a good rifle even if it lacks some (IMO) important features. Mainly a mil-spec receiver extension and HPT/MPI'd all barrels and BCGs. Since I actually know what an ISO 9001 certification means I'd buy with confidence anyway and swap out the RE with an LMT SOPMOPD kit. |
Just purchased my 4th Sabre Defence rifle and counting...definitely good to go! My other AR's in the stable are Colt, RRA, and Fulton Armory (Titan .308)...buy with confidence...here they are @ the Shot Show describing they latest offerings - Sabre Defence Cheers, Sakic #19 
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Lmt lower $330.00 http://www.jtacsupply.com/lmtdefender2000ar15m4lowerreceiver.aspx LMT 16" upper $485.00 http://www.jtacsupply.com/lmt16m4ar15m16upperreceivergroup.aspx LMT BCG $130.00 http://www.jtacsupply.com/lmtm16boltcarriergroup.aspx CMT charging handle $21.00 http://www.jtacsupply.com/ar15chargehandle.aspx There is your basic patrol AR15 Total is $966.00 Add a Knight's M4 RAS from the EE $200.00 Add an Aimpoint Comp M2 and mount from LaRue $540.00 Add a Surefire G2 LED flashlight and mount from LaRue $142.00 Total is now $1848.00 Pay tax and add some mags from the EE and you have a REAL patrol rifle in your price range. Don't get me wrong..Sabre is very very good. I just think they leave some things out. |
IMHO, great setup, but Bravo Company uppers are a little nicer. They're cheaper too. (bravo company's website has them out of stock, but global-tactical shows in stock on 16" M4, and I think www.grtactical.com still has some in stock) |
| Before I didn't realize just how much it costs to get a high-quality AR. Now that I've done some research into it, why wouldn't I just buy a Colt and be done with it, if I'm going to spend upwards of $2000 anyway? There was an article in a gun magazine recently that had a graph listing mil-spec features in commercially available "M4's". The one at the top of the list obviously was the Colt 6920, then an LMT, then Noveske, Sabre Defence, S&W, CMMG, Stag, Bushmaster, RRA, Armalite, Olympic, and DPMS, in that order. The Colt was about the same base price as the other top rifles and had virtually all the mil-spec features. How come when I ask what is best no one ever says Colt? |
| You asked specifically about Sabre and I have no idea what "best" for you. You just might not need some of those mil-spec features. Only you know what's "best" for you but there's some manufacturers that I'd stay away from for a rifle I might have to bet my life on. Colt, Noveske, Sabre, LMT and BCM aren't one of them. |
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Yeah, sorry, I know this post was orig. about Sabre, I was kinda referring to some of my other posts where BCM, Noveske, etc. were listed as alternatives to Sabre, but Colt never was. Also, I'm obviously ignorant to the real specifics of it all, so what mil-spec features would I not need? I just assumed the more the better, but I know that's a really simplified way of thinking about it. Thanks. J |
I think the reason no one mentioned Colt is because you kinda imply keeping the costs down and Colt will generally cost the most of the available options. In your original post you mention decking the rifle out with accessories while staying under $2000. But again, without knowing what specific accesories you need/want, it's hard for anyone else to guide you.  In the end, all of the big names you seen mentioned in this thread are excellent quality and will serve you well. Shop around and get the combo you can get the best price o so you can maximize your savings. Or if you just want to keep it simple, find a reliable vendor who has Colt 6920s in stock and get one of those. |
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