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3/9/2007 8:52:22 AM EDT
I am in the process of building a lower to be used with a 24" varmint upper to be built or bought later.  Ideally I would like to build it with a Geissele 2 stage trigger and Magpul PRS.  I currently do not have enough money to complete the build with both items so was planning on buying the trigger and using an A2 rifle stock until I could afford the PRS.

My question (having never test fired the Geissele) is it really worth 3 times the price over more affordable 2 stage triggers?  The only 2 stage trigger I have actually fired is the RRA.  Would I be better served buying a more affordable trigger and getting the PRS.

I know a lot of this can be subjective judgement but is the Geissele 3 times better, 2 times better or just a little better.

Thanks
3/9/2007 8:56:45 AM EDT
[#1]
Well, the RRA fails under heavy use, which I've witnessed.  I have a Gieselle and a Milazzo-Krieger.  The M-K saw heavier use when I shot service rifle, w/o problems.  The gieselle has less than 1,000 rounds through it, so I haven't much to go on.  But the RRA is junk.

Flame suit on.  
3/9/2007 8:57:22 AM EDT
[#2]
I have a Giesselle and am very pleased with it. It is solidly built, install is straightforward and mine didn't need any adjustment. Is it worth the money over the others? I don't know.

That said, I don't think the PRS is worth what it costs. YMMV.
3/10/2007 8:32:04 AM EDT
[#3]
I spent the money and bought the Giessel for my SPR ( already put almost 4 grand into it with optics and can, might as well get the best trigger). I absolutlly love it. If yo do go this route, make sure u get KNS anti-rotational pins. The trigger pins were a little loose in my GTS lower and worked themselves out. Now with the KNS, it is the most fun gun I have. Im going to put one on all my rifles eventualy. Nothing like a short light, crisp pull that you know isint going to fail.

hell even my brothers still in iraq are replacing their KAC with Giessel DMR triggers.
3/10/2007 12:40:38 PM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
If yo do go this route, make sure u get KNS anti-rotational pins. The trigger pins were a little loose in my GTS lower and worked themselves out.


Something was either wrong with the lower or your Geissele pins weren't installed  properly. There is absolutely NO reason to use KNS pins with a Geissele trigger.

ETA - The PRS is a waste of money on a properly set up AR if you do NOT have NV optics.
3/10/2007 12:59:21 PM EDT
[#5]
I installed a Geissele trigger, DMR in my little Bushmaster mainly on recommendation from members here. It ain't cheap, but it is probably one of the finest triggers I have squeezed. This is my personal opinion. I was worth the money to me and I would do it again.

I believe if you have a good sense of what a good trigger feels like, you'll love it too. If you are the type that just fans a trigger to throw lead...pass it up.
3/10/2007 1:36:04 PM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
I installed a Geissele trigger, DMR in my little Bushmaster mainly on recommendation from members here. It ain't cheap, but it is probably one of the finest triggers I have squeezed. This is my personal opinion. I was worth the money to me and I would do it again.

I believe if you have a good sense of what a good trigger feels like, you'll love it too. If you are the type that just fans a trigger to throw lead...pass it up.


Whew, I'm glad to hear the good reports...'cause we bought a nice batch of 'em already and just haven't put them up for sale on the website yet

Oops, I was wrong, they are up on the  website now.  

Okay, okay, can you let my ear go now.

ML
3/12/2007 7:11:45 AM EDT
[#7]
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Quoted:

ETA - The PRS is a waste of money on a properly set up AR if you do NOT have NV optics.


Thanks, that's what I needed to know.  I guess I'll pass on the PRS.
3/12/2007 7:14:52 AM EDT
[#8]
height=8
Quoted:
I installed a Geissele trigger, DMR in my little Bushmaster mainly on recommendation from members here. It ain't cheap, but it is probably one of the finest triggers I have squeezed. This is my personal opinion. I was worth the money to me and I would do it again.

I believe if you have a good sense of what a good trigger feels like, you'll love it too. If you are the type that just fans a trigger to throw lead...pass it up.


This will basically be a target rifle so no trigger fanning.

Since it comes so highly recommended (and I'm passing on the PRS) I'll go ahead and splurge on the Geissele trigger.

Thanks
3/13/2007 5:55:30 AM EDT
[#9]
I was planning to install the Match Geissele trigger in my Colt but it is a large pin receiver and it has a sear block. According to the Geissele website, there trigger won't work in my rifle.
What would be a good "second choice" trigger to replace a Geissele ?
3/13/2007 3:32:45 PM EDT
[#10]

I say Jewel. Other's may have different opinions but I can tweak my jewel with an allen wrench to get it just how I like it.

Frank
3/13/2007 3:35:34 PM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
I was planning to install the Match Geissele trigger in my Colt but it is a large pin receiver and it has a sear block. According to the Geissele website, there trigger won't work in my rifle.
What would be a good "second choice" trigger to replace a Geissele ?


just take the block out of the Colt.
3/13/2007 8:57:26 PM EDT
[#12]
I have tried the Jewell, Giessele and RRA.  The first two worked well, but the RRA was awful.
3/13/2007 9:15:46 PM EDT
[#13]
anyone know where i could find a good deal on the giessele?
3/14/2007 6:53:29 AM EDT
[#14]
I never did find a "deal". It is about the same price wherever you look. I just purchased it from Giessele directly.
3/14/2007 10:41:20 AM EDT
[#15]
Bigbore,

I accualy bought the Trigger from your website. Fast delivery and a good price.

I used the kit and instruction and installed them in a GTS lower. It is basicaly a CMT/Stag lower so i dont know what would be the problem. Either the pins were to small or the hole was to big. Either way, it works great now. Im going to order another one when I get my 3gun rig together. Thanks
3/14/2007 11:05:02 AM EDT
[#16]
Got one from Rainer Arms, it installed easily.  Didn't need adjustment.  I love it and eventually will put one in all of my AR's.
3/14/2007 11:36:16 AM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:
Got one from Rainer Arms, it installed easily.  Didn't need adjustment.  I love it and eventually will put one in all of my AR's.


I can almost promise your sear engagement isnt adjusted properly.  It will be worth your time to follow the directions and adjust the trigger even if you think it doesnt need it.
3/14/2007 3:37:18 PM EDT
[#18]
I saw it once before and now can't find it,but does anyone have a vid on the Geissele trigger?
3/14/2007 4:02:42 PM EDT
[#19]
check out the JP triggers they are super crisp with no creep.
3/14/2007 4:22:23 PM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:
I am in the process of building a lower to be used with a 24" varmint upper to be built or bought later.  Ideally I would like to build it with a Geissele 2 stage trigger and Magpul PRS.  

My question (having never test fired the Geissele) is it really worth 3 times the price over more affordable 2 stage triggers?  

Yes, it's worth the money.  It is probably the single most significant upgrade you can make to your AR to improve its accuracy.  For a varmint rig, I'd say get the match rifle trigger.



Would I be better served buying a more affordable trigger and getting the PRS.

No, I would say not.  The standard stock will work well in lieu of a PRS.  A standard trigger or a more affordable trigger will only have to be replaced later, raising the effective price of the Geissele trigger.


I know a lot of this can be subjective judgement but is the Geissele 3 times better, 2 times better or just a little better.

Yes, the Geissele is three times better.  I'd say buy.

One really cool thing about the trigger is all the functions are independant of each other and are easily adjusted with allen wrenches.  For example, increasing sear engagement does not affect pull weight, etc.


Thanks
3/14/2007 4:32:37 PM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:
check out the JP triggers they are super crisp with no creep.


I have 2 of them with the speed hammer and now I want to get a  Giessele and see if its any better.I love my JP triggers and wont trade it for anything.Just want to see if there is something better.
3/15/2007 6:17:49 AM EDT
[#22]
I like Geissele's so much I have 2, one installed by Bigbore and one I installed myself. The directions are pretty easy to follow.
3/15/2007 3:28:17 PM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:
I was planning to install the Match Geissele trigger in my Colt but it is a large pin receiver and it has a sear block. According to the Geissele website, there trigger won't work in my rifle.
What would be a good "second choice" trigger to replace a Geissele ?


Just for reference, I was looking at buying one last night and noticed they sell both small pin and LARGE PIN models.

The sear block is another issue.  If it's legal to do so, I'd say get that sear block machined out and install a Geissele.
3/15/2007 3:57:12 PM EDT
[#24]
I got a long look at the batch of these we just got...and I'm not surprised that we've already sold some.

ML
3/15/2007 4:23:26 PM EDT
[#25]
I'm going to throw a Geissele's in my LaRue upper soon and I will post some rusults on it. I have 4 JP triggers in my other AR's so I will like to see how this one works and see what the differances are.
3/17/2007 9:58:21 AM EDT
[#26]
My gunsmith is nationally known for his work on benchrest rifles.  His relationship is strong with Lilja and he is sought for input from Leupold.  He also builds AR's for customers.  He too highly recommends this trigger and wants to experiment some with two of my AR's  Who am I to say no to this?



3/17/2007 10:01:24 AM EDT
[#27]

Quoted:
I got a long look at the batch of these we just got...and I'm not surprised that we've already sold some.

ML



I am not surprised!  Shooters love to buy directly from you and the Geissele is backordered due to demand.

By the way, are your Magpul PRS stocks in stock yet?  Going Crazy with anticipation!
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