Short Flash Hiders? > Rifles, Uppers, Lowers, Barrels, and more

Posted: 6/29/2006 6:28:44 PM EDT

Are any of the shorter FHs as good as the longer Phantoms? My A1 & 2s have been killing me recently in low light, but I dont like having that long Phantom sticking off the end of my gun

Posted: 6/29/2006 10:51:23 PM EDT

[#1]

Your short A1 and A2 comps are not good flash hiders.
Vortexes and phantoms ARE good flash hiders.
If you need a good flash hider, you will just have to deal with that extra 3/8" of length.

Posted: 6/30/2006 9:03:17 AM EDT

[#2]

Randall, can you tell me the weights of the a2, the phantom, and the vortex FH?

Posted: 6/30/2006 9:31:56 AM EDT

[#3]

Quoted:
Randall, can you tell me the weights of the a2, the phantom, and the vortex FH?

Forest has them on his weights table...
MD AR-15 component weights excel file

A2: 2.3 ounces
Phantom 5C2: 2.1 ounces
Phantom or Vortex: 3.2 ounces
That last entry worries me because I know that phantoms are lighter than vortexes just from holding them in my hand...

I'll try to remember to weigh them tonight when I get home, but I am supposed to be racing off for the holiday weekend.
I'll post here again so subscribe to the thread and you will be notified...

Posted: 6/30/2006 10:50:40 AM EDT

[#4]

I didn't figure there was anything shorter that would work. Oh well, I can deal with 3/8" better then a blinding flash right in front of me.

Thanks Randall!

Posted: 7/2/2006 11:44:54 AM EDT

[#5]

What Brl length are you using?

I dont find the muzzle flash to be "blinding" on a 16, 18 or 20" AR with an A2 flash supressor.

With a 14.5" i go with the pinned phantom just to get the Brl over 16"

Posted: 7/2/2006 2:48:02 PM EDT

[#6]

Quoted:
What Brl length are you using?

I dont find the muzzle flash to be "blinding" on a 16, 18 or 20" AR with an A2 flash supressor.

With a 14.5" i go with the pinned phantom just to get the Brl over 16"

Shooting any of the lengths at night with A1 or A2 and M193 or M855 makes a nice fireball.

Posted: 7/2/2006 3:57:39 PM EDT

[#7]

Quoted:
Quoted:
What Brl length are you using?

I dont find the muzzle flash to be "blinding" on a 16, 18 or 20" AR with an A2 flash supressor.

With a 14.5" i go with the pinned phantom just to get the Brl over 16"

Shooting any of the lengths at night with A1 or A2 and M193 or M855 makes a nice fireball.

the other nite we shot m193 out of a rra w/a2 vs. an armalite w/phantom. the phantom is clearly the winner

Posted: 7/2/2006 7:24:31 PM EDT

[#8]

Quoted:
Quoted:
What Brl length are you using?

I dont find the muzzle flash to be "blinding" on a 16, 18 or 20" AR with an A2 flash supressor.

With a 14.5" i go with the pinned phantom just to get the Brl over 16"

Shooting any of the lengths at night with A1 or A2 and M193 or M855 makes a nice fireball.

Many years back we did a night shoot for just this reason. From 16 & 20" Brls with A2 flash supressor the muzzle flash was only about the size of a tennis ball. I did not find it to be distracting or to diminish my night vision at all.

From various muzzle brakes and target crown Brls the muzzle flash was a huge basketball sized fireball.

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