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Posted: 12/31/2005 2:03:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/31/2005 2:04:13 PM EDT by tire_iron]
I had an older friend that recently died – he was a Viet Nam veteran – and served back in the day that the M16 was a “jamamatic”. He never trusted the “direct gas” system of the AR since those days back in the mid ‘60’s when he was there. I tried to tell him about the change in propellent powder – and how the bores and chambers are now chrome lined, blah blah blah – but – to no avail. He just didn’t like the direct gas system.

I have since moved from where he lives – and we would periodically keep in touch – but he passed away in his sleep about 2 months ago.

His gun collection has been passed down to his children – but his wife sent me a box of “parts” that no one wanted.

In that box I found a “Rhino” gas system. He never told me that he had a “Rhino” – but it makes sense. He was a “tinkerer” – as can be seen with the barrel that came in the box of parts. The barrel is “heavy” barrel profile – is chrome lined – and is 16.1” in length. It was a full length barrel that he had cut off and rethreaded for his “old school” flash suppressor. I guarantee that what he had pre-dates the “Dissapator” by a number of years. Here are the pictures of it. Hope you enjoy seeing the “grand-daddy” of all the gas piston systems out there these days.









cheers

tire iron
Link Posted: 12/31/2005 2:05:46 PM EDT
Very cool, looks like somebody needs to build a new rifle!
Link Posted: 12/31/2005 2:10:37 PM EDT
very nice. thanks for sharing.
Link Posted: 12/31/2005 2:13:00 PM EDT
I had one built up a number of years ago & sold it. Worked like a champ. Nice to see some old school now & then!
Link Posted: 12/31/2005 2:19:00 PM EDT
Wow that's simple!z
Link Posted: 12/31/2005 10:49:33 PM EDT
CSM,

Thanks for the post - although I'm not really sure what to do with this - as I have never had a problem with the gas system "as is".


exocet,

Thanks for the kind words and for the post.


VLODPG,

Thats great to hear it worked well - since my buddy is no longer around - I couldn't ask him for a report. Thanks for the post.


ZOOM,

I too was impressed by its simplicity. Thanks for the post!



cheers

tire iron
Link Posted: 12/31/2005 10:53:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/31/2005 10:55:15 PM EDT by Dace]
See below.
Link Posted: 12/31/2005 10:53:45 PM EDT
That's "cool" are you going to "try" and "build" a "complete" rifle with "it?"
Link Posted: 12/31/2005 11:10:02 PM EDT
"I'm not sure."

cheers

tire iron
Link Posted: 12/31/2005 11:32:23 PM EDT
Email or IM if you have any questions. The gunsmith who set it up for me had it running like a top! He wasnt impressed with it (IHO Gas system works fine as Stoner invented it) But it was clean & functioned 100% Was great in full auto, could adjust the cyclic rate with a allen wrench.
Link Posted: 1/1/2006 8:33:25 AM EDT
Thx for the pix
Link Posted: 1/1/2006 11:45:51 AM EDT
That's pretty slick

Looks like it borrows a little from the M-60 piston and gas cylinder.

If it worked well it's hard to believe no one is making them today.
Link Posted: 1/1/2006 11:53:31 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Green0:

If it worked well it's hard to believe no one is making them today.




looks like someone is,,

www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976605611.htm
Link Posted: 1/1/2006 1:45:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/1/2006 1:48:11 PM EDT by mongo001]
Is this the system that used the aluminum carrier? Innovative for his time.
Link Posted: 1/1/2006 1:46:30 PM EDT
RIP Warrior.
Link Posted: 1/1/2006 5:37:50 PM EDT
Thanks for the photos. You have a interesting piece of AR nostalgia.

Here is Langendorfer's patent for it:
http://www.biggerhammer.net/patents/US04244273__.pdf
Link Posted: 1/2/2006 5:52:58 AM EDT
Very interesting, thanks for the pics.

I'd try to assemble an upper from the parts, just to see if I could make it work .
Link Posted: 1/2/2006 11:25:16 AM EDT
What would a setup like that run if someone could find one for sale? Id be interested in buying one to play with....
Link Posted: 1/3/2006 7:20:17 AM EDT
VLODPG


Email or IM if you have any questions.


Will do - thanks!


HKPDW


Thx for the pix


Your welcome - thank for the post!


GreenO


That's pretty slick

Looks like it borrows a little from the M-60 piston and gas cylinder.

If it worked well it's hard to believe no one is making them today.



Maybe patent rights?? I dunno. Thanks for the post.


mr_h

I *think* they are just selling a Rhino already installed.


mongo001


Is this the system that used the aluminum carrier?


The one I have apparently uses the regular carrier - just with the new "key" installed.


Innovative for his time.


Yeah - he seemed to be about 20 years too early!

Thanks for the post.


CitySlicker


RIP Warrior


THANKS for the kind words!


Kisara


Thanks for the photos. You have a interesting piece of AR nostalgia.

Here is Langendorfer's patent for it:
http://www.biggerhammer.net/patents/US04244273__.pdf



Thanks for the link - and for the kind words.


bsbg


Very interesting, thanks for the pics.

I'd try to assemble an upper from the parts, just to see if I could make it work



Thanks for the kind words - and I am not sure what I'll do with it...


viper5194


What would a setup like that run if someone could find one for sale?


I have absolutely no idea.

Thanks for the post.

cheers

tire iron


Link Posted: 1/3/2006 7:47:12 AM EDT
Green0 wrote: "If it worked well it's hard to believe no one is making them today."

Now this is only hearsay, but I've heard they had problems with the carrier key being knocked loose. This is a common problem with the AR gas-piston conversions.

POF tries to solve it by putting their key into a machined "pocket." ARES tries to solve it (and in my opinion this solution is ideal) by providing a new carrier with the key machined into it as an integral unit.

John
Link Posted: 1/4/2006 5:07:35 AM EDT
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