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Posted: 5/6/2005 9:39:43 PM EDT
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I have been trying to get info on this flash suppressor(?) with zero results. First off, I am guessing that it is in fact a flash suppressor, not some other device and that the name is just that. If so then at $170 it seems to be the most expensive flash suppressor to date. Does anyone know how it compares in terms of performance to the Vortex, Phantom, Mideivel or even just the plain old A2 cage. Thanks in advance for any info on this product. |
For the most part this is correct. It is in fact designed to be used to cut rebar. The rebar slides into the big notch, you give the rifle a little twist and pull the trigger. It cuts the rebar like butter and is much faster than using a saw. I was a little baffled myself when I first saw it until I watched a video of it being used. Michael |
Don't have a link to that video by any chance, do you? j |
Naw...I was watching it at SHOT. Haven't seen it online. |
I'll have to get one of those and take it out to a jobstie to demonstrate to some concrete contractors. I am sure they would be suitably impressed, and wouldn't give me any lip after that about our construction documents being poorly done. 
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I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that is a mission specific tooled that would be used by a small group of individuals that are on Uncle Sugar's payroll. And if a guy buys that and does not have a specific need for it. it falls under the category "I have a lot of disposable income and the guys at my range will think it's cool" And if I see you at the range with it I will put you in the "This tool is a real poser" catergory....  Not a lot of civillians out their breeching into Concrete barriers. I'll blow the $170 on more Ammo and spend more time actually shooting, just my $.02 |
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It's highly unlikely I'd ever need it but it would kinda be nice to have if it were a bit more affordable just incase one day I did need it, no delusions of needing to breech through a wall or some other building materials. But could see being nearly stranded somewhere while off roading and maybe having to deal with something wire cutters or even bolt cutters couldn't get through, both of which I keep with my truck in the event of a mis-adventure in offroading. |
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One thing to keep in mind guys....this thing is BIG. The picture doesn't really do it justice. When I first saw it on a rifle it kind of reminded me of a Surefire head mounted on the muzzle. It's not like a weird looking flash suppressor, it's much larger. It's cool as hell to see it in action though. I wish I could think of a use I would have for one...I'd order it in a heartbeat
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You need a portable oxy-acetylene setup.  If it's not considered a flash-hider, and I lived in NY, I'd have one, just because. But considering I don't have any explosives, which seems to be the first part of the equation, I think I'd rather stick with my vortex. 
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Above is correct, it was done for DoD. The cutter was part of a breaching kit that included an explosive charge for removing the concrete, etc. When only remaining part of the wall was rebar, you shot through it for (fairly) rapid access. It's huge, awkward. And single purpose tool. |
When did Canada start using rebar? ETA...how's that sling you got from the other Canadian working out for you? I'm anxious to hear a report on it. Michael |
Judging from the picture above where the manual/press picture is shown in the background of the actual device, where it is shown installed on a barrel. It appears to be maybe 1 1/2 inches in diameter if you compare the proportions of the device to the diameter of the barrel.
If I ever have the funds available to build a dedicated off roading rig that is a hybred between baja vehicle and rock crawler, you can count on it. As it stands now I'm stuck in 2x4 mode where sometimes the only way out is by following the terrain because I can't go back the way I came from. Have had a few hairy experiences where I somehow barely made it out only because I had my wits about me. Can't wait to get a 4x4 with locking front and rear diffs, that or a damn 6x6 5 ton so I can live out fantasies of being Burt Gummer. |
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Mostly 2 for each section (one each side ) I saw some guy trying one in the centre then sledging the rebar out of the way... It really depends upon the size of the breach in the concrete to how you have to go. I'm not a SME on this I just got to see it done a few times. |
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I think I figured out why it required a "twist" of sorts, it helps center the bar so the bullet will impact as close to dead center as possible. Take something straight and put it between the two points, if it's narrow like a pencil then when you rotate the muzzle device it's opposite edges will bear against the opposite sides and wind up lining it right over the center of the device. For the maximum thickness possible the device will barely fit over allowing for virtually no ability to twist it or need to line up the rebar in the cutter. My curiosity about it is how would it do against some other things like shackles on a lock(which may or maynot be hardened) or going through some other materials. The kenetic energy of the round impacting could make it good for breaking hardened metals that bolt cutters could have a problem going through, shatter it instead of actually cutting through it. |
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