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Posted: 1/18/2005 9:57:41 PM EDT
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Hey, does anyone know of anyone who makes light weight AR receivers, such as carbon fiber or polymer or wood or some kinda crap like that? This excludes the bushmaster, because I don’t care for that raised rail they have on top. Any help is appreciated. On a side note, are barrels less than 16" still illegal to have on a normal rifle in the US? |
Ah.....  Vulcan Armament - must have been renamed....knew it as Vulcan Arms.... sell a lower made out of carbon/armide (IIRC). It is a composit lower that is built *identically* as the aluminum lower ARs. Now Vulcan's reputation is questionable, but the *rumor* goes that this product is not made by them, only sold by Vulcan (formally Hesse Arms). I have not tried this product, but from those who have, like it. The lower sells for less the $100.00 last I saw. Pros... you can config it in ANY way (sock, grip) since it is a conventinal lower using a 'unconventinal' material. People have posted good things so far about the lower..... They also sell a flat top upper made of the same material. It has no port door (if I recall right) or forward assist hole. So if you want to match you upper and lower, one can. 
Cavalry Arms- sells a lower made out of plastic...similar to the plastic in Glock pistols. They have great coustomer service. (I'm bias, I know the Cav crew- own a few of their lowers-great prducts and stand behind their product 110%!!!) It is a lower that has an intergrated stock, pistol grip and lower in one unit. The butt stock length is the A1 (if I recall right) length. The grip is an 'ergo grip' style.
It depends...... It is illegal if you do not apply and get approval from the BATF to "make" your rile into a *short barreled rifle* which is the use of barrel lengths of less then 16" and an over all length of (XX) inches (forgot how many inches). And it is illegal if local city/town, county or state laws prohibit such SBRs. If you get approval from local and mainly BATF, it's legal. You need paperwork in hand before slapping a short barrel on an AR rifle. Hope this helps.....sorry for long post  |
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Who cares about long, it was effective. No experience with the Vulcan lowers. You may want to try out the Cav Arms first if you can before deciding to buy one. It seems most people like the grip, but I do not like it. It is too far swept to the rear for MY liking. Others will differ in opinion no doubt. A friend of mine told me that in testing the bolt/carrier was damaged from HEAVILY sustained FA fire and not one prob w/ the lower. Regardless of the validity to that, they are very durable. As mentioned before, think Glock. Despite the grip, I'll prob still get one, maybe for a beater/loaner rifle. |
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Outstanding, you guys have been very helpful. I guess a Vulcan lower best fits my needs, as much as I hate the idea of using something they make. The Cav Arms one seems cool, but I need the ability to use aftermarket stocks and pistol grips. I might have to stick with a regular forged upper, though, because I don't think that I'd bother trying a Vulcan upper. About the SBR, how long does it take for the BATF to file the paperwork, and is there a $300 tax stamp like with buying a suppressor? Because I'd rather shoot myself in the head than go that again. |
It varies - most people I've talked with say 4-6 months from the time you send it to them. Of course there is the time needed for your cheif LEO to sign off on it befor that... Tax is $200. |
I have no experiance in this, but I say expect a year total. That's including getting the papers, prints and going in to the local chief or sherrif to signe off on it. Send it in, and forget about it. When it arrives w/ the Yes/No, it arrives.... this is the govt we are talking about. They have their own schedual.  
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