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3/31/2004 7:04:47 PM EDT
ive got a great Colt rifle.  except for the trigger.

I asked about a RRA 2 stage but i guess my colts large pins wont work with the RRA.  is there another trigger in the same price range that will work?

i like the RRA/Holliger set up for its reported durability and simplicity vs. the alleged touchyness of the jewell...

thanks for the help...

david
3/31/2004 7:14:05 PM EDT
[#1]
The Colt factory "match trigger" is a nice design that isn't any more expensive than the RRA.  It's not a match trigger on the level of the other higher end triggers but it is a big improvement over the stock unit.

There are several other designs available if you don't mind spending another $50 or so.
3/31/2004 8:14:24 PM EDT
[#2]
I don't know the price on the Colt match trigger and I haven't tried one.  May be a good thing.  Of the ones I have used that will fit large pins, the best bang for the buck was the JP.

The JP was installed in a Colt SP1.  Lots of creep with the colt factory hammer.  Got the JP hammer and life was good.  It has a nice clean 4lb. break and seems to stay adjusted after several thousand rounds.

Current pricing at Brownell's is 140 for the trigger and 50 for the hammer.  If you get the discount, its 112/40.

I'm beginning to wonder what would happen if I bought the JP trigger and hammer spring kit for less than $10. Grind the spur off of the hammer and polish the surfaces.  Probably won't be as nice as the real deal, but it may be decent.
3/31/2004 9:58:10 PM EDT
[#3]
The Colt match trigher has as much creep as a standard trigger, but the pull is much smoother and lighter.  It's basically the standard trigger but with a lightweight hammer and whole thing is hard chromed to make it smooth.
4/1/2004 5:44:42 AM EDT
[#4]
I have the Colt "Match Trigger" installed on one of my ARs. It's a slight improvement over the original trigger ($86 from Brownells). I have stayed away from the others. I've had friends that had their ARs go Burrrrp in the middle of a training classes with some of the aftermarket. If it happened more than once it was trip home on the spot and no refund. For a working rifle/carbine I would stick with a standard trigger. For a range only, CMP, and the like go with the others. My $.02
4/1/2004 7:12:21 AM EDT
[#5]
I'm beginning to wonder what would happen if I bought the JP trigger and hammer spring kit for less than $10. Grind the spur off of the hammer and polish the surfaces. Probably won't be as nice as the real deal, but it may be decent.
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You can get approximately the same effect by bending the springs and save $10.  See [url=http://www.sargenthome.com/15_Minute_AR_Trigger_Job.htm]the 15-minute trigger job[/url] for more details.  I have a trigger I paid a 'smith $65 to work over and he basically did the 15-minute trigger job (which I didn't know about at the time) except he bent the hammer spring legs instead of cutting one off.  He ground the hammer hook off too.  It's still a little creepy, but breaks around 4 lbs.  


ltdave,
I've heard that the RRA is available for Colt-sized pins, but I haven't actually seen one.  Before I gave up on that idea I'd ask Adco and/or RRA if they have them available for Colt pins.
4/1/2004 9:46:50 AM EDT
[#6]
pcurtis,

What triggers have you seen fail? If you don't want to post please IM me. I am specifically interested in the Accuracy Speaks trigger.

TIA,

Mike
4/1/2004 11:19:59 AM EDT
[#7]
Mike,

No problem replying,

In several cases JP, I'm not bashing JP or any of the other make of aftermarket FCG, just the application it was being used for, in these case as a tactical carbine. I don't know what the pull weight was set to, but it was obviously too light. There are probably as many people that have never had a problem with a proper setup. My response was only intended to be precautionary in nature, that he look at the intended application.
4/1/2004 12:23:54 PM EDT
[#8]
pcurtis is right on.  Look at the application first.  The Jard for example, has a super light pull, can be very difficult to adjust and will probably take some tinkering as the parts interact.  (Only 4 adjusting screws - what could go wrong?)

It's a great choice for a benchrest shooter, but I wouldn't want it in an application that required the highest level of safety and reliability under adverse conditions.
4/2/2004 2:23:21 PM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
I am specifically interested in the Accuracy Speaks trigger.

TIA,

Mike
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The AS trigger is well regarded around here.  About the only "match" single stage that is worthy of a serious rifle.
4/4/2004 12:42:33 AM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I am specifically interested in the Accuracy Speaks trigger.

TIA,

Mike
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The AS trigger is well regarded around here.  About the only "match" single stage that is worthy of a serious rifle.
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Agreed.

In case anyone is curious, here's a pic of Colt's upgrade trigger in my M4 carbine:

[img]http://home.comcast.net/~cjan99999/M4_Trigger.JPG[/img]

So far I've had very good luck with it. I would have gone with something more exotic but my father's PD frequently borrows my M4 for duty use, so I need absolute reliability.
4/4/2004 5:29:05 AM EDT
[#11]
Can somebody tell me the stock-no. and price of the Colt match trigger assy. at Brownell?
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