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Posted: 10/27/2003 5:38:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/29/2003 2:43:52 PM EDT by MSTN]
Link Posted: 10/27/2003 5:59:21 PM EDT
ARMS #58-MOD ... ACTUALLY A MODIFIED #50, IN MY VIEW, FOR THE CARBINE LENGTH GAS SYSTEM, WITH SIDE RAILS OUT PAST THE FRONT SIGHT TOWER.
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Finally! Can't wait to see this ARMS "MRE".
Link Posted: 10/27/2003 6:29:08 PM EDT
Oooh, sounds sweet! Can't wait to see it![:D]
Link Posted: 10/27/2003 6:36:38 PM EDT
Prepare for another round of wallet emptying! [:d]
Link Posted: 10/27/2003 6:51:37 PM EDT
LMT MRP?
Link Posted: 10/27/2003 6:55:43 PM EDT
tagged for pics
Link Posted: 10/27/2003 7:05:35 PM EDT
You tease.
Link Posted: 10/27/2003 7:32:45 PM EDT
You can start with this [;)] [img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid85/pd889e677ef626849e4f9c34bcdc92238/fab7b883.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 10/27/2003 7:38:35 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/27/2003 7:41:11 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/27/2003 7:45:58 PM EDT
Quick change barrel? Sounds expensive.... *trying to find my credit card*
Link Posted: 10/27/2003 9:30:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/27/2003 9:32:54 PM EDT by MaverickMkii]
Wow I'm really jealous of that ARMS 58-MOD! That somehow looks less robocop than my 46 SIR. Any info on $$$? (also did you take off the top rail of 58 MOD SIR before taking the pic or is it just the way it is?)
Link Posted: 10/27/2003 10:49:28 PM EDT
Originally Posted By MSTN: MRP = MODULAR RAIL PLATFORM WITH THE MRP, THE RECEIVER AND FOREND ARE ONE PIECE. THE BARREL IS QUICK CHANGE.
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Sounds like everyone is developing this "one piece receiver-forend" concept. Knight's URX LMT MRP So who's next?
Link Posted: 10/28/2003 3:56:32 AM EDT
Damn just when I get a SPR something cooler comes out. FREE
Link Posted: 10/28/2003 4:03:32 AM EDT
well it's yet another AR project, then we'll have to buy an ACOG, sling, foregrip, stock and a Surefire light to go with it. Sigh...[:p]
Link Posted: 10/28/2003 4:15:45 AM EDT
Link Posted: 10/28/2003 4:21:18 AM EDT
Wes, the Shrike has a quick change barrel, but that's another long, painful, and ongoing story [V]
Link Posted: 10/28/2003 4:26:16 AM EDT
Link Posted: 10/28/2003 4:30:44 AM EDT
Wes, I fully understand that the Shrike isn't out and the LMT is, so you're right. As far as I'm concerned, the Shrike is but a development until Ares Defense delivers the finished product to those that gave it $1000 interest free loans.
Link Posted: 10/28/2003 4:31:05 AM EDT
As soon as I got to handle New-ARguys, I knew I HAD to have one. It is exactly what I have been looking for.
Link Posted: 10/28/2003 4:34:23 AM EDT
Here is one more pic of it. {This pic also shows the new high tech protoype Double ACOG system. Cant talk about right now though.} [img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid85/padb5e03233ac484d3ebe2ef45e103904/fab9e861.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 10/28/2003 5:40:16 AM EDT
Let's see those LMT MRP pics!
Link Posted: 10/28/2003 6:40:55 AM EDT
Oh my, two ACOGS?
Link Posted: 10/28/2003 6:44:34 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/28/2003 6:54:45 AM EDT by SULACO2]
Wes- Price on #58MOD? Have the #50M in yet? Price? Also, on a side note, there's a newer, PI, version of the #59. Anyone w/ telescopic scopes that had trouble mounting the scope I/F/O the #40, because of top rail mounting length, the newer #59's have a longer top rail to alleviate that problem. Thanks. S2
Link Posted: 10/28/2003 6:50:33 AM EDT
Is it tomorrow yet?
Link Posted: 10/28/2003 6:57:11 AM EDT
Link Posted: 10/28/2003 9:23:11 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/28/2003 11:31:56 AM EDT by SMGLee]
[img]http://www.thermaldynamics.com/pictures/mstn/MRP-1a.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.thermaldynamics.com/pictures/mstn/MRP-2.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.thermaldynamics.com/pictures/mstn/MRP-3.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.thermaldynamics.com/pictures/mstn/MRP-4.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.thermaldynamics.com/pictures/mstn/MRP-5.jpg[/img] LMT MRP, photo courtesy of Wes at [url]www.mstn.biz[/url] I have heard a LMT equipped M4 shot some of the best military rifle into the ground at a recent test, this is first hand info from a very reliable source, I wonder if this is the magical unit.
Link Posted: 10/28/2003 9:41:56 AM EDT
My My my that certainly is a solid looking piece of gear. So are the 2 allen screws part of the quick change feature or what?
Link Posted: 10/28/2003 9:50:56 AM EDT
That is a good looking piece of equipment!! What's the chance of some pics showing the barrel detached?
Link Posted: 10/28/2003 9:57:27 AM EDT
Chen, Holy cow! That LMT rail one neat looking upper! How is the barrel installed on that? It looks like it's just one long receiver...
Link Posted: 10/28/2003 9:57:48 AM EDT
i'll ask for everyone else, wes: estimated prices and availability? [:)] cheers, MM
Link Posted: 10/28/2003 10:36:13 AM EDT
How much does it weigh?
Link Posted: 10/28/2003 11:07:45 AM EDT
How does the quick change barrel work? Does it use existing barrels or does it require a proprietary barrel? How much of the LMT MRP is compatible with existing AR15 parts? Bolts, etc? Will the LMT MRP work with existing front sight/gas block rigs (like the PRI Front Folder) or Knight's pending bayo/frontsight/gas block? What is the gas system like on these that you can do quick change barrels reliably? Naturally those are all just "Boy, it would be nice to know" questions. Anything that is too sensitive for public consumption I can wait to find out.
Link Posted: 10/28/2003 11:42:09 AM EDT
Ahh.......I feel like a new man........I now believe in Angels[:D] and the weight has lifted! Or is it the wait! Gimme!
Link Posted: 10/28/2003 1:06:04 PM EDT
Two words.. GOD DAMNN..
Link Posted: 10/28/2003 1:10:54 PM EDT
What the hell is that little hole or nic in the brass deflector for? Ive never seen that.....
Link Posted: 10/28/2003 1:25:44 PM EDT
Originally Posted By M4_Aiming_at_U: What the hell is that little hole or nic in the brass deflector for? Ive never seen that.....
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If you look closely, there are two roll pins, aligned vertically, that retain the ejection port cover assembly... That hole is for one of them.
Link Posted: 10/28/2003 1:31:24 PM EDT
I can see through the ejection port that they did not use an LMT Enhanced BC Group.. wonder why not?
Link Posted: 10/28/2003 2:11:25 PM EDT
So how does one swap out the barrel? It's a quick change barrel right?
Link Posted: 10/28/2003 2:13:58 PM EDT
From what I understand, it is the rigid frame concept much like the KAC URX. the barrel is proprietary to the system so you can't use a normal barrel but the BCG is interchangeable.
Link Posted: 10/28/2003 2:48:28 PM EDT
No the roll pins obviously make installing the port door possible. (there is no way to get in from the front as the RAS is in the way.) ALL I WANT TO KNOW IS WHAT IS THE DEAL WITH THE GAS TUBE? It looks VERY VERY thick (.25in maybe) This could be a bridge between SAW and M-16!!!! If that gas tube has .1inch walls odds are you could shoot any Ar on the planet into the ground with that... I have been wondering why no-one builds a stronger gas tube for years. (on most carbines the gas tube fails first). WE NEED DETAILS SERIOUS DETAILS!!!!! How much are these going to cost complete and ready to shoot and what is weight?
Link Posted: 10/28/2003 2:56:50 PM EDT
OH my. [shock] Oh my indeed.
Link Posted: 10/28/2003 3:03:22 PM EDT
Good now maybee they can sh**can the plastic gun and get this for us Soldiers. FREE
Link Posted: 10/28/2003 3:10:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/28/2003 3:12:19 PM EDT by FREEFALLE6]
Barrel $200-300, upper and handguard $400-500, bolt and carrier $200 so it should be around $800-$1000 but thats just a guess. Damn gotta start saving up my cash!! FREE
Originally Posted By militarymoron: i'll ask for everyone else, wes: estimated prices and availability? [:)] cheers, MM
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Link Posted: 10/28/2003 3:13:25 PM EDT
Originally Posted By FREEFALLE6: Good now maybee they can sh**can the plastic gun and get this for us Soldiers. FREE
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Your post immediately following this one is the reason why you will still be getting the plastic toy guns. [:(]
Link Posted: 10/28/2003 3:31:44 PM EDT
Will it ever stop?????????? [shock]
Link Posted: 10/28/2003 3:59:58 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Lumpy196: Will it ever stop?????????? [shock]
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no, it won't. it'll never stop. my wallet feels your wallet's pain, lumpy. MM
Link Posted: 10/28/2003 4:10:33 PM EDT
Exactly how does the barrel quick change work? And where is it? Does the top or bottom rail flip open or something?
Link Posted: 10/28/2003 4:44:53 PM EDT
You mean the price? you know the Goverment gets a deal espesialy when they buy a few million. FREE
Originally Posted By wyv3rn:
Originally Posted By FREEFALLE6: Good now maybee they can sh**can the plastic gun and get this for us Soldiers. FREE
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Your post immediately following this one is the reason why you will still be getting the plastic toy guns. [:(]
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Link Posted: 10/28/2003 5:17:55 PM EDT
Originally Posted By wyv3rn: I can see through the ejection port that they did not use an LMT Enhanced BC Group.. wonder why not?
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These are probably Wes' and most likely have some personal internals including charge handle in them. All the LMT uppers I know come bare from Manuf.
Link Posted: 10/28/2003 5:18:47 PM EDT
The #58 Mod is obviously a (MODIFIED)#58 mid length. It can't be a modified #50 as the #50 isn't long enough to be modified (not stretched)longer:-) It is nice as it gives the carbines an ability to get items out further and thus provide more room for hand guard hold. That's one of the reasons I like mid lengths, besides a little extra velocity, etc. Good shootin, Jack
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