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4/13/2003 7:18:19 PM EDT
I want to take off the A2 stock on my rifle & replace it with an M4 stock...what tools am I going to need & is it pretty simple? Any pointers?
I don't know the first thing to do..
4/13/2003 7:29:37 PM EDT
[#1]
There's really nothing to it.  I just did the same thing, and the only problem I had was getting the original buffer tube off - it was on there pretty tight.  You are going to need a car stock wrench to tighten the locking nut, and you can get one on ebay or just buy on from bushmaster like I did.  

Good luck.

PBR
4/14/2003 3:49:03 AM EDT
[#2]
Framer --

All the information you need is in the -23&P manual.  Got one?  You can find it at [url]http://www.mcdl.org/Manuals/Manuals/Manual%20Depot.htm[/url]

-- CHuck
4/14/2003 6:33:17 AM EDT
[#3]
Thanks for the help. Do I need a special wrench to get the A2 stock off? I have a tele stock wrench. Just wondering what tools I will need.
I will order that manual.
4/14/2003 7:11:30 AM EDT
[#4]
you will need a large flathead screw driver and a cresent wrench to get the A2 off. To put a collaspsable on you'll just need the stock wrench or you can use a large set of plyers with the nut and the teeth wrapped with a couple layers of electrical tape.
4/14/2003 8:43:16 AM EDT
[#5]
try and use a big slotted screwdriver.  You'll need the torque to break the locktite that may be on the screw.  It's the top one with the drainage hole.  Also you'll need a wrench to remove the buffer tube.
4/14/2003 8:56:02 AM EDT
[#6]
Mind the little springs (push pin spring, and buffer retainer spring).
They come popping out.

4/14/2003 11:21:42 AM EDT
[#7]
What would I do without the AR-15 forum....
Thanks for all of you help.
It helps when you kind of have some idea how to go about doing things..
4/15/2003 7:25:38 AM EDT
[#8]
Don't screw yourself spend the $20 bucks and buy the correct tools.

it should be $5 for the telestock wrench, and $15 for the USGI multi wrench which handles the barrel, flash supressor, and standard (A1/A2) receiver extension.
4/20/2003 7:15:53 AM EDT
[#9]
Could you tell me what are the part numbers of those tools? Either Bushmaster or Brownell's or ???

THX
4/20/2003 11:58:54 AM EDT
[#10]
From Cheaper than dirt:
[img]http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ctd_images/product_images/777/ARR-017.jpg[/img]

[url=http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ctd/product.asp?dept%5Fid=1241&sku=ARR%2D017&imgid=&mscssid=87MKJLFNSHCB8N2CJAJD8EXML84T73P3]AR-15 Carbine and .45 Tool Steel Removes Bushings[/url]

AR-15 Carbine and .45 Tool Cleaver tool works to remove the stock from AR-15 carbines and also removes the barrel bushing from 1911 .45 autos. Designed by the military, and very practical for those who shoot both weapons. All steel construction and very handy. New, current production. $ 3.99

[img]http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ctd_images/product_images/777/ARR-016.jpg[/img]

[url=http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ctd/product.asp?dept%5Fid=1241&sku=ARR%2D016&imgid=&mscssid=87MKJLFNSHCB8N2CJAJD8EXML84T73P3]AR-15 Combo Tool Steel Remove Nut, Tube, Suppressor[/url]

AR-15 Combo Tool Designed for .223 shooters, this tool removes the barrel nut, extension tube and flash suppressor from AR-15 Rifles and Carbines. Quality steel, current production. $14.97

I ordered and received these 2 last week.  The Barrel nut remover was USGI but the spanner wrench(first item) ended up being stamped DPMS, which is ok.
4/22/2003 9:10:07 AM EDT
[#11]
I'm told that this kind of wrench is better for working on barrels:
[img]http://www.bushmaster.com/shopping/gunsmith/Images/223-wrench.jpg[/img]
[url=http://www.bushmaster.com/shopping/gunsmith/223-wrench.asp]Bushmaster Extra Heavy Duty Armorers Wrench[/url]

They also have this stock wrench:
[img]http://www.bushmaster.com/shopping/gunsmith/Images/223-teleWrench2.jpg[/img]
[url=http://www.bushmaster.com/shopping/gunsmith/223-telewrench2.asp]Tele-Stock Wrench for New Style Stocks[/url]

I've also seen armorer's tools like the one above that have the end of the handle milled as a screwdriver for the stocks.  Most places that sell AR parts also sell tools.  
4/22/2003 11:23:47 AM EDT
[#12]
I would suggest that you DO NOT use a 'crescent wrench' or any other kind of adjustable wrench to loosen the buffer tube.  The jaws aren't as strong as a fixed 5/8" open end wrench in good condition and just tend to slip off or round off the flats of the tube.  Why ruin a good reusable part by using the inappropriate tool.

A good mechanic (gunsmith) should not even own an adjustable wrench.  Get the right tool for the job.  Decent end wrenches are not that expensive.
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