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4/7/2003 7:43:00 AM EDT
I am going to buy an AR-15. The two that I have narrowed it down to are a 16" DPMS, Or a Bushmaster XM15 series 16". They both seem like nice guns. Which do you all prefer? Pro and cons? Also a while back I saw an AR-15 comparison chart somewhere, I thought it was on this board, if anyone knows where that is, could you post a link? Thanks is Advance!
4/7/2003 7:52:24 AM EDT
[#1]
Here is the link you were asking for.http://www.ar15.com/forums/announcement.html?b=3&f=118&id=172

4/7/2003 12:43:11 PM EDT
[#2]
[i]3d Infantry Division vs. Republican Guard[/i] would be a good analogy.....  [;)]

-- Chuck
4/7/2003 1:14:09 PM EDT
[#3]
haha good one chuck...I would have to agree the bushmaster is much better
4/7/2003 1:22:00 PM EDT
[#4]
DPMS offers the tactical upper receiver, combined with the Wilson barrel would be enough for me to buy it over the Bushmaster.  Without the upper, it would be comparing apples to apples, IMHO.
4/7/2003 3:07:18 PM EDT
[#5]
Why would you use the tactical upper?  What purpose does it serve over a conventional upper?
4/7/2003 7:40:17 PM EDT
[#6]
Check this article out when considering your purchase. I personally have a DPMS with a Bull Barrel and have not had any issues with my rifle. Good luck with you decision.
http://ruger-mini-14-firearms.com/about_the_barrels.html

Chrome lining of the barrel is also an industry practice that admittedly increases barrel life. However, because chrome lining is still mostly a guessing game as far as uniformity of application is concerned, it is very difficult to ensure consistent coating of the bore. The testing that they have done clearly shows that chrome lined barrels are consistently less accurate than those that are not chrome lined. Air gauge tests confirm the fact of inconsistent bore dimensions in chrome lined barrels. Because this process has shown inconsistent accuracy, they do not chrome line their barrels. They feel that the benefit of improved accuracy far outweighs the minor increase in barrel life. Just ask yourself, would you rather have a barrel that can easily give you 1/2 to 1/4 MOA accuracy, or a barrel that may give you a thousand rounds longer life?
4/7/2003 7:51:17 PM EDT
[#7]
It's a tactical error, to get one. Go with Busmaster, then you have the many options that the military do for mounting.
Jack
4/8/2003 6:59:06 AM EDT
[#8]
I automatically suspect any device labled [i]tactical[/i] (or [i]ninja[/i] for that matter) until I see evidence that it's true.  Same for [i]match or target.[/i]

If there's a DPMS [i]tactical[/i] upper receiver, what does that make a standard M4 or M16 upper, [i]non-tactical[/i]?

Hype is hype.

A 1/4 MOA capable barrel is little help shooting 2MOA service ammo and being a 4MOA shooter [;)].

-- Chuck
4/8/2003 7:12:04 AM EDT
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I automatically suspect any device labled [i]tactical[/i] (or [i]ninja[/i] for that matter) until I see evidence that it's true.  Same for [i]match or target.[/i]

If there's a DPMS [i]tactical[/i] upper receiver, what does that make a standard M4 or M16 upper, [i]non-tactical[/i]?

Hype is hype.

A 1/4 MOA capable barrel is little help shooting 2MOA service ammo and being a 4MOA shooter [;)].

-- Chuck
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[LOLabove]
4/8/2003 8:39:17 AM EDT
[#10]
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The testing that they have done clearly shows that chrome lined barrels are consistently less accurate than those that are not chrome lined.
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That what would explain FN's new sniper rifle having a chrome line bore?


minor increase in barrel life.
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What do they define as minor?


...or a barrel that may give you a thousand rounds longer life?
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I know plenty of chrome lined ARs that can do 3/4 to 1/2 moa from the bench.  Well beyond the capability of the shooters.

Do they really think you only get an extra 1000 rounds of barrel life with a material that is twice as hard as the steel? (not to mention the improvment in extraction reliability).
4/8/2003 11:04:08 AM EDT
[#11]
Anyone else find it humorous that Ruger would decline to chrome-line their barrels because it would cause the accuracy on the Mini-14 to suffer?

4/8/2003 12:31:30 PM EDT
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Anyone else find it humorous that Ruger would decline to chrome-line their barrels because it would cause the accuracy on the Mini-14 to suffer?
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ROFLMAO!!!!  [:D]
4/8/2003 12:34:16 PM EDT
[#13]
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A 1/4 MOA capable barrel is little help shooting 2MOA service ammo and being a 4MOA shooter [;)].

-- Chuck
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Chuck, Did we ever shot together, how did you know about my capability?? [:)]
4/9/2003 11:23:23 AM EDT
[#14]
well it sounds like bushmaster it is..
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