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12/6/2002 9:11:37 AM EDT
I am in the market for a post-ban AR15.  First time buyer.  Can anyone offer a suggestion on what manufacturers are worth the money.
12/6/2002 10:27:12 AM EDT
[#1]
This'll open a can of worms...

IMHO Colt & Armalite aren't worth a premium.  Especially Colt.  Why pay extra to get parts that aren't compatible with everyone else?

Bushmaster is probably your best quality with corresponding prices.  Rock River (RRA) seems to be the best value, with quality almost as good as BM, but much lower cost.  DPMS & Olympic are OK too.  Avoid Hesse like the plague.

I wouldn't hesitate to buy a BM again, but my next AR will probably be a RRA.  (partly for cost, partly because BM doesn't make the config I want)

I think there's also a comparison of brands over at [url]www.MD-AR15.com[/url].  A little exploring there, lurking here, and thinking about what features you want and how you're going to use it will lead you to an informed choice.
12/6/2002 10:29:04 AM EDT
[#2]
Go to the industry forum and find Legal Transfers (This is Pete).....

Ask what he has in stock from Rock River Arms.

Check RRA's website first [url]www.rockriverarms.com[/url]to get an idea of the config you like.  His prices will likely be lower than the list you see.

Also, check with [url=www.quanticoarms.com]Quantico Arms[/url] for Armalites and Eagle Arms rifles.

These are by far the best deals for the money IMHO.  Also the two guys who run these two shops are the standard bearers for nice guys with great service.

Ed
12/6/2002 10:39:18 AM EDT
[#3]
Mike,

I appreciate the info, that is the best advice I have hear yet. RRA is up and comming and I hear that the fit of there components are second to none in their market.  Thanks again.

Porter
12/6/2002 11:19:16 AM EDT
[#4]
BIY! get a RRA from Pete, decide what you want it to be, and get the parts/kit and BIY!
you'll br glad you did. [;)]
12/6/2002 1:00:25 PM EDT
[#5]
notack,

who is pete?  and where can I find him..
12/6/2002 1:08:05 PM EDT
[#6]
Pete is Legal Transfers
He's in New Hampshire
It's easiest to find him here:
[url]http://www.ar15.com/forums/forum.html?b=2&f=86[/url]
12/6/2002 1:10:37 PM EDT
[#7]
Guess my post is not here......doh!  Can anybody else see the post I did?  [BD]
12/6/2002 1:11:36 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
Go to the industry forum and find Legal Transfers (This is Pete).....

Ask what he has in stock from Rock River Arms.

Check RRA's website first [url]www.rockriverarms.com[/url]to get an idea of the config you like.  His prices will likely be lower than the list you see.

Also, check with [url=www.quanticoarms.com]Quantico Arms[/url] for Armalites and Eagle Arms rifles.

These are by far the best deals for the money IMHO.  Also the two guys who run these two shops are the standard bearers for nice guys with great service.

Ed
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[whacko]
12/6/2002 2:15:25 PM EDT
[#9]
SHIVAN,
Porteriv is about to purchase his first AR.  He's all foamed up and missed the details in your post.  I remember how I felt before my first AR so I made it a bit easier for him[;)]  
12/7/2002 6:40:12 AM EDT
[#10]
BUSHMASTER IS THE BEST BUT I ALSO RECOMEND ROCK RIVER ARMS AIM SURPLUS HAS BUSHMASTERS FOR 699.00 20 IN. JUST MY .0002 CENTS WORTH
12/7/2002 6:35:56 PM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
SHIVAN,
Porteriv is about to purchase his first AR.  He's all foamed up and missed the details in your post.  I remember how I felt before my first AR so I made it a bit easier for him[;)]  
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Aww........I'm just funnin' around.  I remember how clouded up I was with all the AR's in the shop when I got mine......duhhhhhhhh, which way do I go, which way do I go?  [whacko]

[+]:D]
12/7/2002 6:54:14 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
BUSHMASTER IS THE BEST BUT I ALSO RECOMEND ROCK RIVER ARMS AIM SURPLUS HAS BUSHMASTERS FOR 699.00 20 IN. JUST MY .0002 CENTS WORTH
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I agree
12/7/2002 7:28:52 PM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
This'll open a can of worms...

IMHO Colt & Armalite aren't worth a premium.  Especially Colt.  Why pay extra to get parts that aren't compatible with everyone else?

Bushmaster is probably your best quality with corresponding prices.  Rock River (RRA) seems to be the best value, with quality almost as good as BM, but much lower cost.  DPMS & Olympic are OK too.  Avoid Hesse like the plague.

I wouldn't hesitate to buy a BM again, but my next AR will probably be a RRA.  (partly for cost, partly because BM doesn't make the config I want)

I think there's also a comparison of brands over at [url]www.MD-AR15.com[/url].  A little exploring there, lurking here, and thinking about what features you want and how you're going to use it will lead you to an informed choice.
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premium what f#ckin' premium my armalite was under $800.00 from factory !!!WHAT!!!
12/8/2002 5:57:07 AM EDT
[#14]
My Armalite was purched for less than $800.00 as well as my BM.
I have one of each.
Which is better?
The one I have at the range on that day.

But I will admit I am a sucker for green furniture......

[BEER]
12/8/2002 6:26:18 AM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
Quoted:
This'll open a can of worms...

IMHO Colt & Armalite aren't worth a premium.  Especially Colt.  Why pay extra to get parts that aren't compatible with everyone else?

Bushmaster is probably your best quality with corresponding prices.  Rock River (RRA) seems to be the best value, with quality almost as good as BM, but much lower cost.  DPMS & Olympic are OK too.  Avoid Hesse like the plague.

I wouldn't hesitate to buy a BM again, but my next AR will probably be a RRA.  (partly for cost, partly because BM doesn't make the config I want)

I think there's also a comparison of brands over at [url]www.MD-AR15.com[/url].  A little exploring there, lurking here, and thinking about what features you want and how you're going to use it will lead you to an informed choice.
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premium what f#ckin' premium my armalite was under $800.00 from factory !!!WHAT!!!
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I agree with Tooly.  Please explain what a "premium" price is.
12/9/2002 11:58:11 AM EDT
[#16]
It's been a while since I priced complete ARs, but from what I've read here Armalites tend to cost more than Bushmasters or RRAs.  Some people think they're better and will pay the difference.  I was simply saying that [b]I[/b] would not pay more for an Armalite, just because it's an Armalite.  YMMV.

12/9/2002 12:06:08 PM EDT
[#17]
A+ --- 100% satisfaction guarantee, makes most any price difference (which there is little to none) worthwhile for an Armalite.


Ed
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