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Official Secret Service Counter Assault Team SR-16 E3 CQB Clone Picture and Discussion Thread (Page 2 of 3)
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Originally Posted By FedDC: I genuinely don’t get the desire to emulate a weapon system just because XYZ agency uses it. If people knew how purchase decisions are made... I agree Good enough is fine I guess I have tools I use for a living and some of the stuff could be way better if I felt like upping the budget. |
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Originally Posted By FedDC: I genuinely don’t get the desire to emulate a weapon system just because XYZ agency uses it. If people knew how purchase decisions are made... That's fine, you don't have to read or post in the clone threads. Some people enjoy duplicating a particular setup for whatever reason- it looks cool, it seems like a practical setup, they used it during prior service, ect. Some clone stuff I like, some I'm not into. I do like reading the threads and it's always interesting to see what different organizations are using, particularly ones with decent training and a good budget. |
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When 45 came to visit my area, my team was asked to supplement (USSS just being nice) his detail. Anyway got to chat with the CAT guys the detail was made up of guys from two separate teams. Half of them had the SR-16 with the URX quad rails the other half had just gotten new SR-16’s with “URX5” rails (I don’t actually know what the rail is designated by KAC.) The newer rifles were rocking MAWLs, I saw 2 Modlites, otherwise it was all TLR’s and maybe one or two HLX’s The older rifles had PEQ’s with a few MAWLs. I saw a mixture of Streamlight TLR’s and HLX’s. I didn’t notice any surefire. Interestingly all the PSD agent’s SR-16’s had law folders and D60’s. At least the ones in the vehicles were set up that way. Counter Sniper guys were all rocking LPVO’s on their 16’s |
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Originally Posted By rhs77430: This. So much this. Also, streamlights work, and one need not spend $400 to get a flashlight. Originally Posted By rhs77430: Originally Posted By Exorpmtech: Wild guess: .gov didn't buy them; the user added it. Contrary to popular ARF belief, most people, even the pros, aren't willing to spend $400+.....for a flashlight. This. So much this. Also, streamlights work, and one need not spend $400 to get a flashlight. Yep. The individual making the purchasing decisions comes into play as well. The USSS ran M3s and M3Xs for decades (love it or hate it, old habits die hard over there), so it makes sense that they like the TLR at a fraction of the cost of SF's X series. And while some on the team will spend personal funds on approved accessories, most of 'em just run what's issued because they're not overwhelmingly "gun guys" believe it or not. |
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Originally Posted By FedDC: I genuinely don’t get the desire to emulate a weapon system just because XYZ agency uses it. If people knew how purchase decisions are made... You’ve been here too long to be posting dumb shit like this. Don’t come into clone threads if you cannot be constructive. It’s pretty easy. |
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Pretty sweet I need a trained German shepherd  Nothing wrong with cloning down to the roll pins if one desires. I love when guys clone exactly what they carried over seas but definitely not downgrading anything because a certain agency issues a certain item. |
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Originally Posted By AZgunner: That's fine, you don't have to read or post in the clone threads. Some people enjoy duplicating a particular setup for whatever reason- it looks cool, it seems like a practical setup, they used it during prior service, ect. Some clone stuff I like, some I'm not into. I do like reading the threads and it's always interesting to see what different organizations are using, particularly ones with decent training and a good budget. Originally Posted By AZgunner: Originally Posted By FedDC: I genuinely don’t get the desire to emulate a weapon system just because XYZ agency uses it. If people knew how purchase decisions are made... That's fine, you don't have to read or post in the clone threads. Some people enjoy duplicating a particular setup for whatever reason- it looks cool, it seems like a practical setup, they used it during prior service, ect. Some clone stuff I like, some I'm not into. I do like reading the threads and it's always interesting to see what different organizations are using, particularly ones with decent training and a good budget. ^^^^^^^^^ This. |
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When KAC did there final release of the SS SR16 CQB turn ins I HAD to have one. For a KAC 'fanboy' its not only a Clone but also a piece of history. I have many other Milspec Clones but my SS SR16 CQB SBR Clone is my absolute favorite firearm and this sucker just performs no matter how hard I run it! 
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Originally Posted By cone256: https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-XhK8xskb4NE/T4ylqm8gryI/AAAAAAAAGd4/UA5_-yfIWrA/s1600/SS_Counter+Assault.jpg Just noticed the dude in the front looks to have the old school tape together Mag deal going on. Looks like a standard aluminum and a PMAG with cardboard and black duct tape holding it together. |
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Originally Posted By machinegunseabee: Just noticed the dude in the front looks to have the old school tape together Mag deal going on. Looks like a standard aluminum and a PMAG with cardboard and black duct tape holding it together. Originally Posted By machinegunseabee: Originally Posted By cone256: https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-XhK8xskb4NE/T4ylqm8gryI/AAAAAAAAGd4/UA5_-yfIWrA/s1600/SS_Counter+Assault.jpg Just noticed the dude in the front looks to have the old school tape together Mag deal going on. Looks like a standard aluminum and a PMAG with cardboard and black duct tape holding it together. I see all kinds of weird personal touches to them |
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Originally Posted By cone256: https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-XhK8xskb4NE/T4ylqm8gryI/AAAAAAAAGd4/UA5_-yfIWrA/s1600/SS_Counter+Assault.jpg Surprised no one's flamed the GG&G Multi-Flex for their (then) PVS-14s yet. They ran that setup for probably around a decade. |
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Originally Posted By socommatthews: Yea, that’s what I said. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/confused-britney-spears--83.gif Originally Posted By socommatthews: Originally Posted By Tejas1836: Originally Posted By socommatthews: MOD 2.1 Mod 2.1 upper Yea, that’s what I said. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/confused-britney-spears--83.gif Mod 2.1 upper .. Rail is a FF RAS ( My 13" is marked FF RAS 4.0 .. no clue on the numbering system for other lengths) |
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Originally Posted By Tejas1836: Mod 2.1, URX TBD in the wild recently ETA: .300 BO? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/474441/eQqFUGOm-2484796.jpg I noticed that as well. |
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Originally Posted By Easy_E: The first time I've seen drum magazines in use . Me too, though I've always been curious about PMAG's (60rd?) drum mag reliability. Personally it looks a little like overkill, though they may know something the rest of us don't...or didn't at the time of the pic. |
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Originally Posted By cone256: They should be making the switch to 19s. I know they piggybacked off the CBP Glock contract for 47/19/26s Originally Posted By cone256: Originally Posted By triaxle: What side arm are they packing looked like a Sig of some type ?? They should be making the switch to 19s. I know they piggybacked off the CBP Glock contract for 47/19/26s They actually got them before we did. Not sure if it was all SS but CAT did. |
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Originally Posted By Nyktos: Yea...streamlights  . I would assumed more surefires or modlitesTLR isn’t my choice of Streamlight. They’re plenty good for duty work though. Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Originally Posted By -Ascent-: TLR isn’t my choice of Streamlight. They’re plenty good for duty work though. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/163367/IMG_0621_jpeg-3188168.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/163367/IMG_0623_jpeg-3188169.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/163367/IMG_0624_jpeg-3188171.JPG That first pic screams airsoft, esp the optic battery cap. |
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Originally Posted By Claytonhoneyberry: That first pic screams airsoft, esp the optic battery cap. Originally Posted By Claytonhoneyberry: Originally Posted By -Ascent-: TLR isn’t my choice of Streamlight. They’re plenty good for duty work though. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/163367/IMG_0621_jpeg-3188168.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/163367/IMG_0623_jpeg-3188169.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/163367/IMG_0624_jpeg-3188171.JPG That first pic screams airsoft, esp the optic battery cap. Wasn’t paying attention to be honest but yeah the caps lanyard is definitely a sign it’s airsoft. |
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Originally Posted By -Ascent-: Wasn’t paying attention to be honest but yeah the caps lanyard is definitely a sign it’s airsoft. Originally Posted By -Ascent-: Originally Posted By Claytonhoneyberry: Originally Posted By -Ascent-: TLR isn’t my choice of Streamlight. They’re plenty good for duty work though. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/163367/IMG_0621_jpeg-3188168.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/163367/IMG_0623_jpeg-3188169.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/163367/IMG_0624_jpeg-3188171.JPG That first pic screams airsoft, esp the optic battery cap. Wasn’t paying attention to be honest but yeah the caps lanyard is definitely a sign it’s airsoft. It’s an easy mistake. I had to really look at it, but once that battery cap for the fake Eotech is noticed, it’s all I saw. |
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Official Secret Service Counter Assault Team SR-16 E3 CQB Clone Picture and Discussion Thread (Page 2 of 3)
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