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tactical_dude Joined Mar 2009 Posts 1187 EE 100% (122) USA	Posted: 2/7/2019 9:31:55 PM EDT [#1] Anyone have a line on Colt FBI barrel?

naker Member Joined Apr 2013 Posts 1415 EE 100% (620) OR, USA	Posted: 2/8/2019 12:31:20 AM EDT [#2] Quote History Originally Posted By bwhited: Anyone have a line on Colt FBI barrel? View Quote Get on the wait list at shark arms

hrt4me

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Posted: 2/8/2019 7:40:05 AM EDT

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Originally Posted By RG24:
Obviously there are several different builds of the FBI rifles over the years. We can all agree on this. Looking back at the pictures of real FBI agents holding rifles with Geissele MK4 OD Federal rails, there are quite a few items that appear to be 100% consistent. These items could be considered clone correct or bare minimums to reasonably call the rifle an FBI clone. That is if you are building around the Green FED rails that really triggered the recent enthusiasm for these builds.

- 11.5" barrel
- A2 flash hider
- Geissele gas block
- Troy BIUS
- ODG CTR stock
- Aimpoint T2 or Sig Romeo4

The grips, lasers, lights, and possibly the lowers are the discretionary items.

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Originally Posted By RG24:

Originally Posted By hrt4me:

Originally Posted By HCM3156:
There is no “one” configuration for FBI Guns rifles. There are some general guidelines.

The pistols and rifles are color coded for administrative and logistical reasons. HRT has tan. SWAT had OD green carbines and battlefield green G17s. Regular issue or POW is black/black.

there are also color-coded grey issued carbines

Obviously there are several different builds of the FBI rifles over the years. We can all agree on this. Looking back at the pictures of real FBI agents holding rifles with Geissele MK4 OD Federal rails, there are quite a few items that appear to be 100% consistent. These items could be considered clone correct or bare minimums to reasonably call the rifle an FBI clone. That is if you are building around the Green FED rails that really triggered the recent enthusiasm for these builds.

- 11.5" barrel
- A2 flash hider
- Geissele gas block
- Troy BIUS
- ODG CTR stock
- Aimpoint T2 or Sig Romeo4

The grips, lasers, lights, and possibly the lowers are the discretionary items.

the issued grey carbines have shorter barrels and different buttstocks and different RDS optics

MakGunTech Joined Aug 2012 Posts 103 EE 97% (34) USA	Posted: 2/8/2019 8:51:13 AM EDT [#4] Quote History Originally Posted By hrt4me: the issued grey carbines have shorter barrels and different buttstocks and different RDS optics View Quote Any chance you can provide pictures or more details on this?

tactical_dude Joined Mar 2009 Posts 1189 EE 100% (122) USA	Posted: 2/8/2019 10:51:06 AM EDT [#5] Quote History Originally Posted By naker: Get on the wait list at shark arms View Quote He already burned me once, so I'll pass. Thanks for the suggestion though. Any other options? Seems the market was flooded and now their all gone.

Gamblinman

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Posted: 2/8/2019 1:19:40 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By bwhited:

He already burned me once, so I'll pass. Thanks for the suggestion though.

Any other options? Seems the market was flooded and now their all gone.

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Charlie's Custom Clones say they have them with or w/o FSB. I wouldn't buy shit from them after the last fiasco I had with them. The product was quality, but they're lying bastards about shipping times. For just a barrel, I would require a promise of ship date before I purchased.

They ain't cheap, but it's Colt.

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Kalashnikev101

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Posted: 2/8/2019 2:19:31 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By bwhited:

He already burned me once, so I'll pass.

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Errrebody over here gettin' burned by the shark and waaaaiting on CCC, and I got an FBI barrel and a CAGE coded lower from each pretty quickly and easily.

Should I build them though? I kind of wish my rail was darker.

I guess even if I build it and shoot it, it's not going to decrease in value by much.

mckelveymx

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Posted: 2/8/2019 3:32:13 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By Kalashnikev101:

Errrebody over here gettin' burned by the shark and waaaaiting on CCC, and I got an FBI barrel and a CAGE coded lower from each pretty quickly and easily.

Should I build them though? I kind of wish my rail was darker.

I guess even if I build it and shoot it, it's not going to decrease in value by much.

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I say build it. I'm very happy with mine.

oldbrowndog

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Posted: 2/8/2019 3:37:06 PM EDT

[#9]

Interested to hear about someone getting burned by Shark Arms. Chris has been very good to me, and he just contacted me about an HRT barrel I got on the waitlist for in Nov. I've spent a lot of money with him and he's always been honest about stock status, shipped quickly on things in stock and been very helpful in general. His prices are also very competitive with Charlie's...

astromoose Joined Feb 2019 Posts 4 EE 0% (0) TX, USA	Posted: 2/8/2019 7:12:46 PM EDT [#10] Anyone using a 10.5" barrel in this rail? I'm looking to use a Q Cherry bomb and with a trash panda suppressor.

JLAudio

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Posted: 2/8/2019 7:51:22 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By bwhited:

He already burned me once, so I'll pass. Thanks for the suggestion though.

Any other options? Seems the market was flooded and now their all gone.

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bummer. I'd give Chris at SA another shot if you can. He's not equipped to handle the business that comes his way but I feel that he's a stand up guy.

Just email him weekly like I do for C marked uppers.

Originally Posted By Gamblinman:

Charlie's Custom Clones say they have them with or w/o FSB. I wouldn't buy shit from them after the last fiasco I had with them. The product was quality, but they're lying bastards about shipping times. For just a barrel, I would require a promise of ship date before I purchased.

They ain't cheap, but it's Colt.

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I had a debacle with Charlies on the Mk16 Clone. Bought and paid for it for months ago, got the run around for almost 5 months, and then they shipped it without the sopmod mount. They made it right but it wasn't a good experience.

thasiccness Joined Jul 2009 Posts 571 EE 100% (422) OK, USA	Posted: 2/8/2019 8:31:34 PM EDT [#12] Quote History Originally Posted By astromoose: Anyone using a 10.5" barrel in this rail? I'm looking to use a Q Cherry bomb and with a trash panda suppressor. View Quote Here is an lmt 10.5 barrel with rail.

astromoose Joined Feb 2019 Posts 7 EE 0% (0) TX, USA	Posted: 2/9/2019 1:26:10 AM EDT [Last Edit: astromoose] [#13] thank you very much for posting that. that looks exactly what I was hoping for. it looks like it's still possible to attach a suppressor, no?

ThatGuyTheCooler Joined Dec 2011 Posts 1397 EE 100% (489) PA, USA	Posted: 2/9/2019 3:49:09 PM EDT [#14] Found an OD CAR style stock at the last gun show

loudxpack Member Joined Oct 2017 Posts 1566 EE 100% (124) AZ, USA	Posted: 2/9/2019 7:23:25 PM EDT [#15] Quote History Originally Posted By InsaneAuto86: Found an OD CAR style stock at the last gun show http://imgdump4.novarata.net/image.uploads/09-02-2019/original-dc53d07f68301da0ce99d9bef6dda81d.jpg View Quote Odg CAR = want

Ed_Victory Joined Oct 2006 Posts 1796 EE 98% (64) AZ, USA	Posted: 2/9/2019 7:33:03 PM EDT [#16] Quote History Originally Posted By loudxpack: Odg CAR = want View Quote Model 1 Sales has them.

thasiccness Joined Jul 2009 Posts 572 EE 100% (422) OK, USA	Posted: 2/9/2019 7:41:01 PM EDT [#17] Quote History Originally Posted By astromoose: thank you very much for posting that. that looks exactly what I was hoping for. it looks like it's still possible to attach a suppressor, no? View Quote There are photos with Silencerco suppressors with this setup and also a shimmed up Surefire. I’m not sure about the one you are looking at tho.

under9 Joined Sep 2007 Posts 781 EE 100% (95) AL, USA	Posted: 2/11/2019 8:55:43 PM EDT [Last Edit: under9] [#18] Question - Where are y'all mounting your KAC 99051 front sight? It seems in the last slot there will be a 1/2in gap between the 99051 and the end of the rail. Edit - Looks like all of the front BUIS have a gap between it and the end of the rail.

Kalashnikev101 Joined Jul 2006 Posts 776 EE 100% (11) VA, USA	Posted: 2/11/2019 9:56:22 PM EDT [#19] OK, DEAL.

dangerdan Haram in the sheets Joined Sep 2005 Posts 24303 EE 100% (57) TX, USA	Posted: 2/12/2019 5:25:31 PM EDT [#20] Funny how Colt made some OD green tubes years ago for their TALO 6920. And there are people trying to sell them as FBI HRT tubes as soon as Geissele released some 10" Mk4s for black friday. About as retarded as a gun ban scare driving .22LR to $1/round
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thasiccness Joined Jul 2009 Posts 573 EE 100% (422) OK, USA	Posted: 2/12/2019 9:01:58 PM EDT [#21] Changed my rifle around. I know it’s far from the loose term “correct” we often use lol, but I like it.

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Posted: 2/20/2019 11:32:06 PM EDT

[Last Edit: under9] [#22]

Finally able to post mine

Specs
Lower - Colt Property of US M4A1 Lower - SBR
Stock - B5 Bravo Sopmod
Upper - Colt Cage Code Square
Barrel - Colt 11.5in FBI Barrel with shaved gas block by ADCO
Rail - Geissele Mk4 Federal
BUIS - KAC Mirco 600m Rear and KAC 99051 Front
Optic - Aimpoint Comp M5 on LaRue Lt660

Just need to pick up a Surefire Scout m300c and a Magpul MVG

under9 Joined Sep 2007 Posts 796 EE 100% (95) AL, USA	Posted: 2/21/2019 1:25:03 AM EDT [#23] What slings are y’all running?

mckelveymx Joined Aug 2009 Posts 167 EE 100% (6) AL, USA	Posted: 2/21/2019 11:17:37 AM EDT [#24] Quote History Originally Posted By under9: What slings are y’all running? View Quote Looks good. I'm using a blue force gear sling. You wouldn't be in N AL would you?

under9 Joined Sep 2007 Posts 798 EE 100% (95) AL, USA	Posted: 2/21/2019 11:39:57 AM EDT [#25] Quote History Originally Posted By mckelveymx: Looks good. I'm using a blue force gear sling. You wouldn't be in N AL would you? View Quote Thanks Nope - Central outside Montgomery

Kalashnikev101 Joined Jul 2006 Posts 780 EE 100% (11) VA, USA	Posted: 2/22/2019 12:27:45 PM EDT [#26] Quote History Originally Posted By under9: What slings are y’all running? View Quote I use an MS3 QD or a homemade QD sling. It doesn't really "run" though... it kind of just hangs there... unless I'm carrying the rifle, and in that case it suspends it from my upper body.

Sputnik556 Absence of proof is not proof of absence. Joined Oct 2013 Posts 23008 EE 100% (110) KY, USA	Posted: 2/22/2019 12:40:50 PM EDT [#27] Quote History Originally Posted By under9: What slings are y’all running? View Quote Correct or not, I'll be using a VCAS in OD.
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Mindfull #JusticeforFelipe Joined Jul 2012 Posts 5342 EE 100% (155) ZAF	Posted: 2/22/2019 1:21:14 PM EDT [Last Edit: Mindfull] [#28] Quote History Originally Posted By Sputnik556: Correct or not, I'll be using a VCAS in OD. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quote History Originally Posted By Sputnik556: Originally Posted By under9: What slings are y’all running? Correct or not, I'll be using a VCAS in OD. Viking tactics padded mk2 od
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Ghostdog1066 Member Joined Jan 2014 Posts 846 EE 100% (33) MT, USA	Posted: 2/22/2019 7:48:09 PM EDT [#29] Attached File

Ed_Victory Joined Oct 2006 Posts 1817 EE 98% (64) AZ, USA	Posted: 2/22/2019 8:25:59 PM EDT [#30] Quote History Originally Posted By under9: What slings are y'all running? View Quote LBT Ultra-Light in Mas Grey. I’ll be listing my spare Romeo 4M government model pretty soon. Mention this thread and I’ll give a discount.

icecoast Member Joined Dec 2015 Posts 280 EE 100% (58) CT, USA	Posted: 2/22/2019 8:47:08 PM EDT [#31] Quote History Originally Posted By Ghostdog1066: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/381736/D8F71392-364A-46E8-B8B9-8EE516B79A23_jpeg-854565.JPG View Quote Sling setup is ... unorthodox.

crossgun Joined Feb 2009 Posts 68 EE 100% (56) OH, USA	Posted: 2/22/2019 10:22:37 PM EDT [#32] Is clone correct, if that is even a thing, include the OD Green Colt Buffer Tube?

JLAudio Member Joined Oct 2013 Posts 546 EE 100% (83) UT, USA	Posted: 2/22/2019 10:27:26 PM EDT [#33] Quote History Originally Posted By crossgun: Is clone correct, if that is even a thing, include the OD Green Colt Buffer Tube? View Quote The opposite actually. Normal mil spec black buffer tube would be correct. The colt OD green buffers just look good is all.

Ed_Victory Joined Oct 2006 Posts 1818 EE 98% (64) AZ, USA	Posted: 2/22/2019 10:34:41 PM EDT [Last Edit: Ed_Victory] [#34] Quote History Originally Posted By crossgun: Is clone correct, if that is even a thing, include the OD Green Colt Buffer Tube? View Quote The only ODG buffer tubes I’ve seen in the wild were rattlecanned. Colt’s anodized OD tubes look great with the green MK4 though.

dangerdan Haram in the sheets Joined Sep 2005 Posts 24374 EE 100% (57) TX, USA	Posted: 2/22/2019 10:50:29 PM EDT [#35] Quote History Originally Posted By crossgun: Is clone correct, if that is even a thing, include the OD Green Colt Buffer Tube? View Quote I literally made a comment about it a few posts up..
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COMMANDO Joined Jun 2001 Posts 227 EE 100% (3) OR, USA	Posted: 2/23/2019 3:09:47 AM EDT [#36] how are you guys building these are they sbr ??

Alaska511 I need more stamps... Joined Nov 2012 Posts 10616 EE 100% (40) USA	Posted: 2/23/2019 8:02:02 AM EDT [#37] Quote History Originally Posted By COMMANDO: how are you guys building these are they sbr ?? View Quote All of the rifles on this page are clearly SBR.

Shootindave

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Posted: 2/23/2019 9:49:49 AM EDT

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All of the rifles on this page are clearly SBR.

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Originally Posted By Alaska511:

Originally Posted By COMMANDO:
how are you guys building these are they sbr ??

All of the rifles on this page are clearly SBR.

The ATF and FBI personally approved of my build.

Alaska511

I need more stamps...

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Posted: 2/23/2019 9:51:45 AM EDT

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Originally Posted By Shootindave:
The ATF and FBI personally approved of my build.

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Originally Posted By Shootindave:

Originally Posted By Alaska511:

Originally Posted By COMMANDO:
how are you guys building these are they sbr ??

All of the rifles on this page are clearly SBR.

The ATF and FBI personally approved of my build.

Touche

Ghostdog1066 Member Joined Jan 2014 Posts 848 EE 100% (33) MT, USA	Posted: 2/23/2019 10:16:04 AM EDT [#40] Quote History Originally Posted By icecoast: Sling setup is ... unorthodox. View Quote Missing some parts, had to improvise.

jurassic63 Joined Nov 2016 Posts 47 EE 100% (9) LA, USA	Posted: 2/23/2019 10:53:40 AM EDT [#41] Shark Arms got some in.

AKDoc Joined Jun 2013 Posts 1114 EE 100% (81) MO, USA	Posted: 2/23/2019 2:30:36 PM EDT [#42] Are these available in black anywhere currently?

tactical_dude Joined Mar 2009 Posts 1193 EE 100% (122) USA	Posted: 2/23/2019 3:13:49 PM EDT [#43] Quote History Originally Posted By AKDoc: Are these available in black anywhere currently? View Quote What? The rail? You might find one in the EE, eBay, or gunbroker.

SEK7562 Joined Mar 2015 Posts 1714 EE 100% (14) USA	Posted: 2/24/2019 2:58:01 AM EDT [#44] Quote History Originally Posted By crossgun: Is clone correct, if that is even a thing, include the OD Green Colt Buffer Tube? View Quote Every regional swat / regular agent gun I’ve seen has the standard black buffer tube.

TGWLDR Gun whore Joined Dec 2014 Posts 20704 EE 100% (446) IA, USA	Posted: 2/24/2019 2:11:24 PM EDT [#45] Just a heads up, more FBI barrels in stock at SAC.
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thebigxj95 Joined Jan 2018 Posts 44 EE 100% (2) UT, USA	Posted: 2/28/2019 1:45:26 AM EDT [#46] Getting closer for getting my barrel then if more are showing up at Shark.

Ed_Victory Joined Oct 2006 Posts 1832 EE 98% (64) AZ, USA	Posted: 2/28/2019 3:05:17 AM EDT [#47] AIM has the Troy sights on sale again at $110.00. Not as good as the last AIM sale but still a great deal.

TGWLDR Gun whore Joined Dec 2014 Posts 20842 EE 100% (446) IA, USA	Posted: 2/28/2019 6:42:18 AM EDT [#48] Quote History Originally Posted By thebigxj95: Getting closer for getting my barrel then if more are showing up at Shark. View Quote Chris has an update on those barrels, better email today.....
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michaelwesten

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Posted: 2/28/2019 7:43:15 AM EDT

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Originally Posted By Tigwelder1971:

Chris has an update on those barrels, better email today.....

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I called Chris about three weeks ago and he got me set up with a barrel and upper, had them shipped out in under a week. Getting ready to build my second HRT

Still waiting on an LMT E-Bolt to come in then I’ll be filing my Form 1 on the first.

I’d hit up Chris ASAP and try and snag a barrel before it’s too late. He usually sells out quick anytime he updates his site.

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TGWLDR

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Posted: 2/28/2019 7:58:14 AM EDT

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Originally Posted By michaelwesten:

I called Chris about three weeks ago and he got me set up with a barrel and upper, had them shipped out in under a week. Getting ready to build my second HRT

Still waiting on an LMT E-Bolt to come in then I’ll be filing my Form 1 on the first.

I’d hit up Chris ASAP and try and snag a barrel before it’s too late. He usually sells out quick anytime he updates his site.

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His update yesterday was that he has some, was staying late (7pm) and to EMAIL yesterday/today.

Code word is Yellow Umbrella.

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