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Posted: 5/5/2017 12:14:48 PM EDT
| I have a Bushmaster 16 inch 1 in 9 twist and a PSA 20 inch 1 in 7 twist rifles wanted to put a light pull around one and a half pounds on them what is a good trigger any help would be much appreciated |
| pull weight does not necessarily equal smooth nor "good". I am a fan of 3.5 lb, but a smooth 3.5 is way nicer and predictable than a 2# or under. I would definitely try before you buy. Im happy with my 2 geisseles and larue mbt. Don't get stuck in the lower weight = "good" club |
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FYI... 1.5 to 1lb pull weight is VERY unusual for a semi auto rifle.
A more realistic, and much safer, weight would be a 2 stage trigger with a combined pull weight of about 4.5ish lbs. ( 2lbs first stage, 2.5lbs second stage. ) In that weight, the Larue trigger when on sale for $99 is hard to beat. |
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I agree with the above.
Geissele is great and 1.5 is really light on an AR. (Though I'm not comfortable with 2-stage triggers on an AR) I put a lighter spring on my 7 pound combat trigger that dropped it to 4lb. Cost $18. Immensely improved groupings. $18 Upgrade |
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I have a Bushmaster 16 inch 1 in 9 twist and a PSA 20 inch 1 in 7 twist rifles wanted to put a light pull around one and a half pounds on them what is a good trigger any help would be much appreciated Do you want single stage or two stage? I assume single since you want it that light. |
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When you start getting into a light'ish trigger... I really think a 2 stage is advantageous.
On precision shots, they are easy to stage, and I feel they are safer than a light single stage. At least a single stage setup to be short and crisp. I think the best all purpose 2 stage trigger is the Geissele G2S. The SSA is nice, but the G2S is very close at a lower price, and if mine is typical, they break right at 5lb, which I feel is a good weight for a general use rifle. The MBT is very good as well, but a bit lighter and crisper in my option, making it a better choice for a DMR setup or something similar. The SSA-E is getting into the SPR area with its lighter 3-3.5lb pull. I wouldn't go any lighter than that on anything other than a dedicated bench rifle... If even then. |
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I have never heard of a two-stage trigger before that sounds very interesting. Also all my shooting has been bench shooting and I have shot a couple of rifles with the 1/2 of 2 pound trigger and it makes it less likely for me to pull it with a lighter trigger Quote... "The advantage of a two stage trigger is knowing precisely when the trigger is going to break and cause the rifle to fire. As you squeeze back and apply pressure on a two stage trigger you progress through the first stage. It’s basically identical to a single stage at first. Then, instead of breaking and firing, you hit a “break wall” which is the stopping point between the first and second stages. Once at the break wall you apply a little pressure beyond what it took to get you that fire, and bang!" The reason most semi auto's don't use that light of a trigger is because you could "double" easily unless using PERFECT form everytime. |
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Basically a two stage trigger has two springs that you have to overcome during the pull.
Using a SSA trigger as an example. The first 95% of the total trigger pull length is a light 2.5lb pull. Then you hit a "wall" this is where the second spring comes into play. Now that you have a second spring to pull against, it takes an additional 2lb to pull the rest of the way. This results in a break of 4.5lbs You give a little extra pressure on the trigger, and it breaks. Made and tuned properly, like a Geissele or Larue is, you get a longer pull for safety, both from errant fingers and drops, but it's light and easy. Then a very nice crisp break at a reasonable pull weight. A bit of a simplistic description, but should help you visualize it in your mind. |
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| I think that is what my son-in-law had on his 6.5 Creedmoor it was light start with and they're very sensitive and bang kind of like that you all have been very very very helpful I did not even expect this much or response where would be the best place to buy that geissele trigger |
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I have an sd3g, it's fast but it's eh. It's a "fun" trigger. I also have a ssf which I can't recommend enough. I got my sd3g on here for 20% off new, and the ssf was jeeps trigger (rip). New is nice but the EE is great to save a few bucks |
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FYI... 1.5 to 1lb pull weight is VERY unusual for a semi auto rifle. A more realistic, and much safer, weight would be a 2 stage trigger with a combined pull weight of about 4.5ish lbs. ( 2lbs first stage, 2.5lbs second stage. ) In that weight, the Larue trigger when on sale for $99 is hard to beat. |
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How does the two stage Larue compare to a SSA or SSA-E? I have both Geissele triggers but never tried the Larue trigger. I might consider it for an A2 style rifle I'm building. |
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I've never handled an SSA-E, other than pull weight, is there much difference? |
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Geissele is a much better trigger than LaRue. Let's get real here. And the Hiperfire is better than all of them. Geissele's trigger is in every gun at work, and while it is very nice, coming home and getting my hands on my Hiperfire shows me what a trigger pull should feel like |
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+1 for the Hiperfire Hipertouch 24C!!! Best trigger EVER! There's a reason mine is in a bag, and not in a rifleAttached File |
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Primary arms has them for 270.00.is this a good deal and are they very hard to install https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9nfsa7Q5cg |
| I installed the Geissele SSA-E trigger on almost all my AR's. 2lb 1st stage and 1.5 pound 2nd stage. Very crisp clean let off. Only difficulty is installing the hammer. Some times I get it on the first try. Sometimes its a struggle. But at most 20 minutes. Lots of goo videos on the install on You Tube. |
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