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11/29/2016 2:45:51 PM EDT
Can someone shed some light on this for me please,did Sabre Defence manufacture BBls in the UK or only in the US, if so where they chambered 5.56mm or .223??
11/29/2016 3:18:18 PM EDT
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I do not know the history of where they were/were not made, but this one is marked "5.56".
photo courtesy of dogfacedsoldier, as it is his EE ad.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_7_159/1601732_BCM_Colt_Carrier_Group_and_Sabre_Defense_10_5_barrel.html
11/29/2016 3:34:56 PM EDT
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excellent 556 barrels
made in tennessee

11/29/2016 4:01:15 PM EDT
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I have a Sabre upper, barrel is marked 5.56.
11/29/2016 5:09:11 PM EDT
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SDI made some of the best button-rifled barrels around. They were the former Ramus corp. that made MaDeuce barrels for decades. SDI bought them out, and continued to make a massive amount of the gun in-house, regarding their M4/AR's, even securing a contract to provide M16A4's, I believe it was, to some military dept. of the US (I forget). Anyway, that all came crashing down when they got caught shipping guns in the false-bottoms of crates, as that will tend to do...doesn't mean they didn't make good guns though. They were also VERY personable people on the phone. I wish SDI could have not chosen to do that.

My rifles were 5.56NATO marked. I think on their SPR type guns they may have run the WYLD chamber, but I am not sure.
11/29/2016 6:12:06 PM EDT
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I bought their A4 clone 5 years ago since colt didn't make one at the time. I couldn't believe how accurate it was for a USGI barrel!
11/29/2016 7:33:57 PM EDT
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I have a really low number series m4. like little over 1000 is the serial number i bought about 9-10 years ago. Its an amazing rifle and its a shame what happened. Ill look when i get home though and try to tell ya
11/29/2016 7:55:29 PM EDT
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I have one of their 10.5 barrels in a SBR upper that is marked 5.56.  It's a heck of a barrel. 
11/29/2016 7:59:09 PM EDT
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Anyone here try their M11 556 upper?
11/29/2016 7:59:37 PM EDT
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Their CavArms Mk2 type lowers are warrantied by GWACS in Oklahoma.  Waiting for the molds to get fired up in the new location.  
11/29/2016 8:03:49 PM EDT
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Good barrels and lowers.
11/29/2016 8:07:19 PM EDT
[#11]
The barrel on my wife's 14.5 CL middy is marked 5.56.
11/29/2016 8:07:33 PM EDT
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I wish someone would make lowers with logos similar to their logo, it was one of the coolest in the AR world.

11/29/2016 10:46:46 PM EDT
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Here's a pic, carbine on the right

this is right after the assault weapons ban sunset, and I bought a bunch of brownells 30 round mags.

testing them out


11/29/2016 11:46:42 PM EDT
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Excellent rifles...still own 5 including 2 factory 6.5 Grendels





The SPR & mags I unloaded after Sandy Hook - I regret it everyday



11/30/2016 2:03:28 AM EDT
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Both mine are marked 556 and I might add they shoot the best out of all my ar's that I own.
11/30/2016 3:50:53 PM EDT
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I cant upload pics at the moment, check out this link which shows a deac rifle with the exact same markings on the lower https://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.deactivated-guns.co.uk%2Fimages%2Fuploads%2F15XR%2F15XR-011333_2.jpg&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.deactivated-guns.co.uk%2Fdeactivated-guns%2Fmodern-deactivated-guns%2Fdeactivated-rare-sdi-xr15-ar15-assault-rifle-with-full-working-action%2Fprod_2934.html&docid=lk5NLp7y1AeQlM&tbnid=Ui2ppGrDviEuaM%3A&vet=1&w=740&h=519&bih=466&biw=1094&ved=0ahUKEwjIgMzbn9HQAhVMC8AKHbGnDHUQMwhLKCMwIw&iact=mrc&uact=8
11/30/2016 5:49:50 PM EDT
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I hunted for a while to find a thundercat upper and lower set.

Ended up buying a NIB mid length a gentleman had a month or so ago.

Sold the barrel to a fellow arfcommer and it ended up like this:



Being a Nashville native I had to have a Thundercat lower and you could only get them on complete rifles.

It's my "grail" receiver and I now have it
11/30/2016 7:32:05 PM EDT
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Nice.
11/30/2016 8:22:00 PM EDT
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I bought a Sabre SPR type upper, it came with a Samson handguard, stainless barrel, fluted, mid length gas system. The lower was a Bushmaster which had a CMC trigger in it. I replaced the Samson rail- it was one of the ones with flip up sight cutout....didn't care for it, with a BCM KMR. No idea how many rounds were on it when I bought it out of the Pawn shop......Gun shoots flat fucking lights out! It is a pretty easy MOA rifle with any decent ammo. It flirts with 3/4" with Black Hills reman. 75 grain......One of the best rifles I own.
11/30/2016 8:49:11 PM EDT
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I wish someone would make lowers with logos similar to their logo, it was one of the coolest in the AR world.

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I wish someone would make lowers with logos similar to their logo, it was one of the coolest in the AR world.

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Yes!  I always wanted one of thoes Thundercat lowers
12/1/2016 11:26:40 AM EDT
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I was so happy to get a Sabre Defence lower. It's one of my favorite rollmarks.
12/1/2016 10:09:46 PM EDT
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12/2/2016 1:18:17 AM EDT
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Sabre Defence barrels are incredible. They pioneered a method of even chrome lining.
12/2/2016 1:35:21 AM EDT
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Anyway, that all came crashing down when they got caught shipping guns in the false-bottoms of crates, as that will tend to do...doesn't mean they didn't make good guns though. They were also VERY personable people on the phone. I wish SDI could have not chosen to do that.
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I remember reading here when the ATF rolled in on them.

What exactly did they do? Send out guns that were not logged?

12/2/2016 9:34:12 PM EDT
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Attached File
12/3/2016 11:56:48 AM EDT
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Since this is a thunder cat thread:  In October I found a good deal on Samson Star M FF Quad rails ( not that I really love quad rails,  but they work great on piston AR's)
so I nabbed a couple of these not realizing that they had SDI markings. 99.00, not a bad dealAttached File
12/3/2016 12:35:06 PM EDT
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I remember reading here when the ATF rolled in on them.

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" In May of 2004, Savage received an email from a colleague that said, “The 100 barrels without chambers will be ready Mon. or Tues. if we can find someone dumb enough to sign the shipping documents we will send them to you.”

The affidavit goes on to outline dozens of pages of similar conversations that occurred for years, all of which have played a part in the in the raid of Sabre Defence and the arrest of Savage.

Savage, along with other executives, was named in a 21-count indictment earlier this year that alleged top Sabre executives conspired to intentionally violate the Arms Export Control Act by exporting firearm components without a license or written authorization since 2003. The group falsified shipping records, concealed firearms components in false bottoms of shipping cartons and mislabeled shipments to avoid scrutiny from customs and border control officers, according to the United States Attorney for the Middle District of Tennessee."
12/3/2016 12:47:28 PM EDT
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" In May of 2004, Savage received an email from a colleague that said, “The 100 barrels without chambers will be ready Mon. or Tues. if we can find someone dumb enough to sign the shipping documents we will send them to you.”

The affidavit goes on to outline dozens of pages of similar conversations that occurred for years, all of which have played a part in the in the raid of Sabre Defence and the arrest of Savage.

Savage, along with other executives, was named in a 21-count indictment earlier this year that alleged top Sabre executives conspired to intentionally violate the Arms Export Control Act by exporting firearm components without a license or written authorization since 2003. The group falsified shipping records, concealed firearms components in false bottoms of shipping cartons and mislabeled shipments to avoid scrutiny from customs and border control officers, according to the United States Attorney for the Middle District of Tennessee."
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So they were in on Fast and Furious?
12/3/2016 1:17:37 PM EDT
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I have a midy 18" fluted SS SDI barrel that is crazy accurate. I sure wish I would have
bought more of them when I could.
12/3/2016 2:10:34 PM EDT
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So they were in on Fast and Furious?
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 I believe they were shipping to the UK.
12/3/2016 2:11:47 PM EDT
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12/3/2016 5:34:04 PM EDT
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I wish some of the former employees could buy their equipment and get back into the Barrel business.
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