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11/25/2016 10:52:25 PM EDT
Bought a new Smith and Wesson M&P Sport II today and when I got it home I noticed the upper has a distinct color difference from rest of rifle. The upper has a reddish/purple tint. Anyone know what causes this and how to match it back to the black of the rifle?
11/25/2016 10:55:04 PM EDT
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Pictures?
11/25/2016 10:55:57 PM EDT
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I don't know what causes it (maybe a different type of finish?) but I have it on rifles I pieced together that have the lower and upper from different manufacturers. I would expect a uniform finish on a factory rifle, but I don't know how much I'd really care.
11/25/2016 11:01:00 PM EDT
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I don't know what causes it (maybe a different type of finish?) but I have it on rifles I pieced together that have the lower and upper from different manufacturers. I would expect a uniform finish on a factory rifle, but I don't know how much I'd really care.
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The uppers and lowers are generally not finished together and can have different colors.
11/25/2016 11:09:43 PM EDT
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I know. I just figured that uppers and lowers coming from a respected manufacturer would have finishes to the same specs and be uniform. That's been my experience on rifles from Colt, LMT, Noveske, LWRC, and others at least.
11/25/2016 11:20:24 PM EDT
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11/25/2016 11:21:43 PM EDT
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Does it look that bad in person, or is the camera making it look worse than it is?
11/25/2016 11:24:04 PM EDT
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The camera actually makes it look better. It's a very distinct purple/red
11/25/2016 11:25:26 PM EDT
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The camera actually makes it look better. It's a very distinct purple/red
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I'd raise hell.
11/25/2016 11:31:44 PM EDT
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So I'm guessing it isn't suppose to look like this?
11/25/2016 11:32:12 PM EDT
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Anodizing will turn aluminum purple in some cases. BUT, that is ridiculous! I have a few that have a purple sheen to them but nothing like that. Some of the older P&S RAS rails were similar to that, often mis-matched with black upper/lower.
11/25/2016 11:39:18 PM EDT
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Wow, that one is really purple, I have not seen one quite that color in a long time.

How did you end up with that, were you not able to look at it before hand?
11/25/2016 11:41:45 PM EDT
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Held one in store and then was given a new one in box from back at a local gun shop. Didn't notice until got home.
11/25/2016 11:46:51 PM EDT
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Wouldn't bother me, shoot it
11/26/2016 12:52:55 AM EDT
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Held one in store and then was given a new one in box from back at a local gun shop. Didn't notice until got home.
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it's not going to affect the function of the gun at all, will just look ugly

I'd be pissed at the shop. even though it in the end it was your job to look over the "new" one before you paid for it that seems like a shady move to try and get rid of one with shitty anodizing
11/26/2016 2:23:16 AM EDT
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it's not going to affect the function of the gun at all, will just look ugly

I'd be pissed at the shop. even though it in the end it was your job to look over the "new" one before you paid for it that seems like a shady move to try and get rid of one with shitty anodizing
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Held one in store and then was given a new one in box from back at a local gun shop. Didn't notice until got home.

it's not going to affect the function of the gun at all, will just look ugly

I'd be pissed at the shop. even though it in the end it was your job to look over the "new" one before you paid for it that seems like a shady move to try and get rid of one with shitty anodizing


What gets me is every time I've bought a gun at a gunshop they open the packaging on the one they pull out to sell me. I can look it over if I want and they can verify the serial number on the actual gun vs what the packaging says.
11/26/2016 2:32:32 AM EDT
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I'm definitely not the type to bitch about fit and finish issues and have had my fair share of AR's that had scratches and off non matching anodizing but, that's probably one of the worst ones I've ever seen. I have seen plenty of examples with purple tint to them but, nothing ever that bad before.

I would call S&W to see if they'd swap that out for you..

11/26/2016 2:35:57 AM EDT
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Was the box open or still sealed from the factory? Did they not open it to verify the serial number and to also make sure everything that was supposed to come with the rifle was in the box? Whenever we get a transfer in that comes in where it's still sealed from the factory, we wait till the customer comes to allow them to open up the box so there are no issues with missing or damaged parts.
11/26/2016 2:37:57 AM EDT
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11/26/2016 2:43:30 AM EDT
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Maybe a week ago there was a thread posted by a guy looking to buy purple AR parts.


OP I do believe you have moral ground to exchange the rifle because it is certainly not like the display model shown to you by the dealer.
11/26/2016 3:28:21 AM EDT
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Is that a prince gun.
11/26/2016 3:28:57 AM EDT
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I would question if that was the actual factory upper.

Was the box open?
11/26/2016 9:55:47 AM EDT
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I know. I just figured that uppers and lowers coming from a respected manufacturer would have finishes to the same specs and be uniform. That's been my experience on rifles from Colt, LMT, Noveske, LWRC, and others at least.
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The uppers and lowers are generally not finished together and can have different colors.


I know. I just figured that uppers and lowers coming from a respected manufacturer would have finishes to the same specs and be uniform. That's been my experience on rifles from Colt, LMT, Noveske, LWRC, and others at least.


thats never been my experience, besides purple bushmasters they are the worst

and now sw
11/26/2016 10:33:46 AM EDT
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Reminds me of SGW and PWA uppers from the 80s.
11/26/2016 12:32:03 PM EDT
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That's kinda neat

But I would agree, the finish is off enough for you to have grounds for a replacement.

Or you could find a purple KAC RAS and pair em up and have a Barney rifle.
11/26/2016 1:13:14 PM EDT
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I highly doubt that is a Smith and Wesson upper.  Smith and Wesson usually has great fit and finish.  Did you check to see if there are any markings on the barrel?
11/26/2016 1:22:42 PM EDT
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Not unless YOU (the buyer) wanted it too. Shouldn't have passed QC.
11/26/2016 1:31:26 PM EDT
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What gets me is every time I've bought a gun at a gunshop they open the packaging on the one they pull out to sell me. I can look it over if I want and they can verify the serial number on the actual gun vs what the packaging says.
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I've never bought a gun from any FFL where they did not physically verify the the serial number on the actual firearm in front of me either. Hell, one of my LGS has me verify, the guy behind the counter verify, and then a second employee verify the serial #'s.
11/26/2016 1:51:43 PM EDT
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That is really red, reminds me of late 80s Bushmasters.
11/26/2016 2:35:32 PM EDT
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I highly doubt that is a Smith and Wesson upper.  Smith and Wesson usually has great fit and finish.  Did you check to see if there are any markings on the barrel?
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I'm with him^

I think gun store ripped you off
11/26/2016 2:40:40 PM EDT
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I am going to have to agree, the more I look at that picture, the more off it feels, I can't imagine S&W would put a gun out with a mismatch like that, that is not even, oh well it is close enough, that is blatant mismatch.

Something is just not right here.
11/26/2016 9:14:01 PM EDT
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I thought some of the old Bushmasters were purple, but that is off the chart. I don't normally care that much about finish, but that would bother me.
11/26/2016 9:54:25 PM EDT
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Bought a new Smith and Wesson M&P Sport II today and when I got it home I noticed the upper has a distinct color difference from rest of rifle. The upper has a reddish/purple tint. Anyone know what causes this and how to match it back to the black of the rifle?
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I guess under the right light that might appear to be all black. The purple color is a bad anodizing job and in theory it should not have passed QC. However, I would give it a good cleaning. It may be some sort of really strange packaging job that S&W does. Try to soak it in clp and see if it comes off. Use a nylon brush only.

It may be that the dealer swapped the upper on you. The dealer may pull the old "we didn't sold it to you like that" since you brought it back home. It's unclear exactly what they'd say but my guess is since you walked out the store with it, it's now up to the manufacturer (S&W) to fix any issues.

I don't think functionally it would hinder anything but if it bothers you too much I would at least go back to the dealer and ask about it. Chances are they'd tell you to call S&W and most likely S&W will replace the upper.

Live and learn, I suppose. Next time be sure to fully inspect what you buy, especially something as dangerous as a firearm.
11/28/2016 1:03:02 AM EDT
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I doubt that it will effect the operation of the gun but when I lay my hard earned dollars down for a new top brand anything, I expect it to look right. Wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't a S&W piece. It would probably be a big hit at a "diversity" range.
11/28/2016 2:44:44 AM EDT
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Reminds me of SGW and PWA uppers from the 80s.
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How about the purple Bushmasters from the 90's?
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