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Posted: 11/25/2016 1:02:00 PM EDT
| I've ruined my hearing from year of shooting without protection. I know the muzzle blast from the 16 inch barrel on my AR will do more damage that I can't afford. I'm wondering if anyone makes an extension threaded for the AR? Idon't want to go through the red tape of a silencer. |
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Some people wear ear pro at the range but not while hunting. Maybe that contributed to OP's hearing loss. I know a guy who suffered work related hearing loss. Additional hearing loss is a real concern for him. He doubles up on ear pro Not a bad idea ! and uses linear comps. Not a bad idea !
Tomthreetoes, look for a muzzle device like linear compensator or flash can types. Kaw Valley Precision, Black River tactical, Kak, Noveske are just a few of the many popular brands of devices that mitigate muzzle blast by redirecting it away from the shooter and projecting it down range. Those things can make the bark of a 16 inch barrel seem like a 20 inch barrel in other words, even less noise for your earpro to absorb Edited |
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Some people wear ear pro at the range but not while hunting. I know a guy who suffered work related hearing loss. Additional hearing loss is a real concern for him. He doubles up on ear pro and uses linear comps. Tomthreetoes, look for a muzzle device like linear compensator or flash can types. Kaw Valley Precision, Black River tactical, Kak, Noveske are just a few of the many popular brands of devices that mitigate muzzle blast by redirecting it away from the shooter and projecting it down range. No reason not to wear ear pro during hunting, specially with ear pro that also enhances hearing while cutting out on high decibel stuff ( like gun shots). |
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To those who offered helpful info, thank you . No thanks to the smart a##es. The smartasses although crude were telling you what you need to hear(yes pun) I lost my hearing from exiting high performance airplanes, assaulting HVT sites, firing and receiving mortars, IED's and spending too much time in extremely loud military vehicles. People who have every option to mitigate a risk and complain about the effects after taking no preventative measures are beyond stupid. A linear comp will not stop the damage to your inner ear hairs. You will suffer from tinnitus that is a new kind of hell if you are not already deep in its grasp. I started wearing hearing aids when I was in my very early 20s. I fired 14000 120mm mortar rounds in the sunni triangle in Iraq. I used my hands to cover my ears because fire missions while on hot gun recovering between missions. Suppressors in many cases will not protect your hearing enough to stop damage over long periods of use. It is very similar to working around a large truck that has a muffler but is still in the danger level. Buy proper hearing protection that fits. In some instances you will need to wear double hearing protection because of the decibel level you are fighting. You have no idea what you are talking about or how this works. There is no extension that will save you from hearing loss. |
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I've ruined my hearing from year of shooting without protection. Quoted:
I've ruined my hearing from year of shooting without protection. Quoted:
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Seriously dude? Wear ear pro. This....wear ear protection....it's not that hard.. Quoted:
To those who offered helpful info, thank you . No thanks to the smart a##es. LOL The helpful info was to wear ear pro.
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No reason not to wear ear pro during hunting, specially with ear pro that also enhances hearing while cutting out on high decibel stuff ( like gun shots). Quoted:
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Some people wear ear pro at the range but not while hunting. I know a guy who suffered work related hearing loss. Additional hearing loss is a real concern for him. He doubles up on ear pro and uses linear comps. Tomthreetoes, look for a muzzle device like linear compensator or flash can types. Kaw Valley Precision, Black River tactical, Kak, Noveske are just a few of the many popular brands of devices that mitigate muzzle blast by redirecting it away from the shooter and projecting it down range. No reason not to wear ear pro during hunting, specially with ear pro that also enhances hearing while cutting out on high decibel stuff ( like gun shots). At first I'm like ??? who said don't wear ear pro ? I didn't. And then I re read my quoted post from another perspective.< face palm > I'll go edit it for clarity. Edit done and thank you shadohh. |
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Sorry, but
Howard Leight headsets are sub $50. There's really no excuses anymore, even while hunting. Even linear comps and blast deflectors will damage your hearing without earpro. These modern 50 dollar'ish headsets are awesome. For range or other "planned" shooting, they just flat out work. It's the hunting scenario that can cause some irritation for some people. I love the hearing enhancement element that many of these e-muffs provide. The problem can be wearing hats. After a life time of outdoor activity, I don't want anymore sun exposure than necessary. While they do make e-muffs that go around the back of your head/neck, the position at the ears is still a problem for most hats...plus I wasn't that impressed with the rear retaining system providing that much "clamp". Yes, they do make ear-only type plugs with sound enhancement, but they do get noticeably more expensive. There's also some medical suggestion that in-the-ear sound protection doesn't protect the fragile parts of our hearing system outside the ear canal from the concussion sound of big caliber guns. For those determined to wear a hat during hunting/shooting, there are two possible options. I took a boonie hat with a decently wide brim and modded it to allow my Peltor e-muffs to fit under it and through it. With a little experimentation you can find a method of placement that works. The other option during cold weather in to wear a stocking/knit hat. You can form them about how you want them, though they don't offer the sun protection of the boonie hat. I recently received my suppressor, a SilencerCo Hybrid that will fit every caliber I own except shotgun, of course. Even my one remaining bolt gun has a threaded barrel. I'm satisfied with the noise reduction it provides for hearing health. Still, I think there are times where I will want my e-muffs with a couple of guns that I won't shoot suppressed or don't want to tote the silencer around. And just for pants-and-suspenders protection, a good set of ear plugs should be handy in various vehicles and places just in case. |
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These modern 50 dollar'ish headsets are awesome. For range or other "planned" shooting, they just flat out work. It's the hunting scenario that can cause some irritation for some people. I love the hearing enhancement element that many of these e-muffs provide. The problem can be wearing hats. After a life time of outdoor activity, I don't want anymore sun exposure than necessary. While they do make e-muffs that go around the back of your head/neck, the position at the ears is still a problem for most hats...plus I wasn't that impressed with the rear retaining system providing that much "clamp". Yes, they do make ear-only type plugs with sound enhancement, but they do get noticeably more expensive. There's also some medical suggestion that in-the-ear sound protection doesn't protect the fragile parts of our hearing system outside the ear canal from the concussion sound of big caliber guns. For those determined to wear a hat during hunting/shooting, there are two possible options. I took a boonie hat with a decently wide brim and modded it to allow my Peltor e-muffs to fit under it and through it. With a little experimentation you can find a method of placement that works. The other option during cold weather in to wear a stocking/knit hat. You can form them about how you want them, though they don't offer the sun protection of the boonie hat. I recently received my suppressor, a SilencerCo Hybrid that will fit every caliber I own except shotgun, of course. Even my one remaining bolt gun has a threaded barrel. I'm satisfied with the noise reduction it provides for hearing health. Still, I think there are times where I will want my e-muffs with a couple of guns that I won't shoot suppressed or don't want to tote the silencer around. And just for pants-and-suspenders protection, a good set of ear plugs should be handy in various vehicles and places just in case. Quoted:
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Sorry, but
Howard Leight headsets are sub $50. There's really no excuses anymore, even while hunting. Even linear comps and blast deflectors will damage your hearing without earpro. These modern 50 dollar'ish headsets are awesome. For range or other "planned" shooting, they just flat out work. It's the hunting scenario that can cause some irritation for some people. I love the hearing enhancement element that many of these e-muffs provide. The problem can be wearing hats. After a life time of outdoor activity, I don't want anymore sun exposure than necessary. While they do make e-muffs that go around the back of your head/neck, the position at the ears is still a problem for most hats...plus I wasn't that impressed with the rear retaining system providing that much "clamp". Yes, they do make ear-only type plugs with sound enhancement, but they do get noticeably more expensive. There's also some medical suggestion that in-the-ear sound protection doesn't protect the fragile parts of our hearing system outside the ear canal from the concussion sound of big caliber guns. For those determined to wear a hat during hunting/shooting, there are two possible options. I took a boonie hat with a decently wide brim and modded it to allow my Peltor e-muffs to fit under it and through it. With a little experimentation you can find a method of placement that works. The other option during cold weather in to wear a stocking/knit hat. You can form them about how you want them, though they don't offer the sun protection of the boonie hat. I recently received my suppressor, a SilencerCo Hybrid that will fit every caliber I own except shotgun, of course. Even my one remaining bolt gun has a threaded barrel. I'm satisfied with the noise reduction it provides for hearing health. Still, I think there are times where I will want my e-muffs with a couple of guns that I won't shoot suppressed or don't want to tote the silencer around. And just for pants-and-suspenders protection, a good set of ear plugs should be handy in various vehicles and places just in case. This is really good advise and closely parallels my own experience. OP, you should think of your hearing as being priceless. In that light, the cost of a suppressor and the tax stamp are a mere pittance. I recently got the stamp for my can and already I don't like shooting without it. While it is true that there can still be some damage if you shoot a lot without ear protection, in a hunting situation where you are only going to fire a round or two, the suppressor helps enormously. And yeah, while you are not comfortable with being called out on not using hearing protection, those that told you to use it are right, whether you want to believe it or not. |
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Not wearing ear prof moves you into the dumb ass Bubba fud group.
I'm 99% sure your not in any situation that would warrent a lack of ear pro. A linear comp isnt gonna help. Wear some ear pro and stop being a dumb ass. Or get a can. If you don't know your hearing is never coming back. Hearing damage isn't reparable................ But what do I know? I just have to live with a ringing in my ears for the rest of my life. Edit: playing wanna be operator is a bitch ain't it? |
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Not wearing ear prof moves you into the dumb ass Bubba fud group. I'm 99% sure your not in any situation that would warrent a lack of ear pro. A linear comp isnt gonna help. Wear some ear pro and stop being a dumb ass. Or get a can. If you don't know your hearing is never coming back. Hearing damage isn't reparable................ But what do I know? I just have to live with a ringing in my ears for the rest of my life. Edit: playing wanna be operator is a bitch ain't it? If you're not careful, the OP's gonna be offering to buy you a ticket to Indiana to meet him face-to-face. I believe he may be emotionally compromised... |
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I guess I should have mentioned that I'm almost 70 years old and always wear hearing protection. I've operated heavy equipment all my life and it's true I did a lot of shooting when I was a dumb 20 something. Back then the long term effects of unprotected ears was not as well known as it is now. I am concerned now more with the effects of muzzle blasts on my hunting companions than me. Even with protection the blast from 223s is unpleasant for nearby folks. I do object to being called a dumbass even if I know it's a dumbass doing the name calling. End of discussion!!
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A muzzle brake shield might help if you have a muzzle brake mounted. Not sure how effective it would be at helping otherwise.
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