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Posted: 4/30/2019 9:57:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BLOSS:
https://i.imgur.com/6uY5FEol.jpg https://i.imgur.com/uGhas5Wl.jpg https://i.imgur.com/iBWzr1rl.jpg can in jail since september otherwise about done.... |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 4/30/2019 11:18:23 PM EDT
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its a reweld. those marks were made by General Motors :)
thats how ya do it. I wish i could find a complete magwell HM demill. id learn to tig just to do that. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/1/2019 11:43:21 AM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HaveBlue83:
its a reweld. those marks were made by General Motors :) thats how ya do it. I wish i could find a complete magwell HM demill. id learn to tig just to do that. |
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Posted: 5/1/2019 11:44:44 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Engineer5]
[#4]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zakk101abn:
Dumb question: Where does one find demills? |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 5/1/2019 1:15:07 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HaveBlue83:
its a reweld. those marks were made by General Motors :) thats how ya do it. I wish i could find a complete magwell HM demill. id learn to tig just to do that. |
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Posted: 5/1/2019 1:23:54 PM EDT
[#6]
I'm assuming to do that with hand stamps you'd need a really snug fitting steel magwell block to brace the magwell, am I right?
Also notice he showed the cut off chunk next to the lower, couldn't be a reweld. He just copied the lower 1:1. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 5/1/2019 6:36:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: HaveBlue83]
[#7]
thats a very good job. I wouldnt be able to not eff that up at some point. its tedious and takes time. yes u would just make an insert so it doesnt deform the metal as u stamp. fooled me!
Took the H and the C7CT to the range today. BOTH rifles held zero. Mk12 cold bore was 1" left and a tad low. 2-3rd shot were back on center. C7CT cold bore was 3/4" left and 2-3rd shots were top of center. No constant rezeroing with these mounts and optics! makes life easy! ps just deal with the 50% Mk12 Duo Pics. lol 
   
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Posted: 5/1/2019 7:26:58 PM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JLAudio:
Put this together today. Finding the correct stock was tough, glad I waited and found the right one in great condition. Was not the easiest stock to install, keeping the detent spring straight was difficult. What buffer and spring does everyone use with the ace stock? Its a carbine tube, I used a colt carbine spring and H buffer. Barrel will most likely be a Bartlein from CLE, unsure of the gas port size on CLE barrels. https://i.imgur.com/mThhmtx.jpg https://i.imgur.com/wkbnz5z.jpg Good choice on making that lower an H clone. That will be slick when its done. 
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Posted: 5/1/2019 8:07:44 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HaveBlue83:
thats a very good job. I wouldnt be able to not eff that up at some point. its tedious and takes time. yes u would just make an insert so it doesnt deform the metal as u stamp. fooled me! Took the H and the C7CT to the range today. BOTH rifles held zero. Mk12 cold bore was 1" left and a tad low. 2-3rd shot were back on center. C7CT cold bore was 3/4" left and 2-3rd shots were top of center. No constant rezeroing with these mounts and optics! makes life easy! ps just deal with the 50% Mk12 Duo Pics. lol https://i.postimg.cc/6qV9bzHw/IMG-20190501-180428.jpgtcf bank branch locations https://i.postimg.cc/5y5sHFtn/IMG-20190501-175808.jpgmajor banks near me[/url[url=https://postimg.cc/5YH9rMjt]https://i.postimg.cc/cHhKrxSf/IMG-20190501-175721.jpg[/url[url=https://postimg.cc/qtWHz6Mk]https://i.postimg.cc/Px5XV1g8/IMG-20190501-174310-489.jpg[/url[url=https://postimg.cc/f3n6snHL]https://i.postimg.cc/SKJqWmCW/IMG-20190501-175747.jpg 
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PA, USA
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Posted: 5/1/2019 8:38:45 PM EDT
[#10]
thanks postimage! they snuck it in the huperlink. im on mobile, didnt catch that! ill clean that shit upppp
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Posted: 5/1/2019 8:47:35 PM EDT
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Can I still call it a Holland?
This thing is like the Hubble compared to the 3.5-10. 
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Posted: 5/1/2019 8:49:25 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HaveBlue83:
thanks postimage! they snuck it in the huperlink. im on mobile, didnt catch that! ill clean that shit upppp |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 5/1/2019 8:55:22 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HaveBlue83:
thats a very good job. I wouldnt be able to not eff that up at some point. its tedious and takes time. yes u would just make an insert so it doesnt deform the metal as u stamp. fooled me! Took the H and the C7CT to the range today. BOTH rifles held zero. Mk12 cold bore was 1" left and a tad low. 2-3rd shot were back on center. C7CT cold bore was 3/4" left and 2-3rd shots were top of center. No constant rezeroing with these mounts and optics! makes life easy! ps just deal with the 50% Mk12 Duo Pics. lol https://i.postimg.cc/6qV9bzHw/IMG-20190501-180428.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/5y5sHFtn/IMG-20190501-175808.jpghttps://i.postimg.cc/cHhKrxSf/IMG-20190501-175721.jpghttps://i.postimg.cc/Px5XV1g8/IMG-20190501-174310-489.jpghttps://i.postimg.cc/SKJqWmCW/IMG-20190501-175747.jpg The rig with that old school freefloat tube and cut down FSB looks awesome. 
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VA, USA
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Posted: 5/1/2019 8:57:04 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell:
They wanna make that $$$$ Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Originally Posted By HaveBlue83:
thanks postimage! they snuck it in the huperlink. im on mobile, didnt catch that! ill clean that shit upppp 
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Posted: 5/1/2019 9:06:27 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 44Echo10:
I thought he had been playing with his 733 Commando and watching Heat. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 44Echo10:
Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Originally Posted By HaveBlue83:
thanks postimage! they snuck it in the huperlink. im on mobile, didnt catch that! ill clean that shit upppp |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 5/1/2019 9:52:37 PM EDT
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Echo, its a $59 ebay AL ff tube.....and its lovely lol. I chopped the fsb down, its a classic Canadian gwot look.
yep, .224V. its like cheating. Its a mini creedmoor. if I ever make a mod 0 or a SAM-R, it will be .224V. 18-20" is good soooo, my 733 11.5" barrel was stolen by my modern SBR, so the heat gun is currently a 10.3" retro upper. I am always swapping bbl lemgths from 10.3 - 11.5 - 14.5 on that upper. I dumpppp ammo with the 733 upper. its dangerous. beware building one and then watching that movie! lol |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 5/2/2019 6:11:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HaveBlue83:
Echo, its a $59 ebay AL ff tube.....and its lovely lol. I chopped the fsb down, its a classic Canadian gwot look. yep, .224V. its like cheating. Its a mini creedmoor. if I ever make a mod 0 or a SAM-R, it will be .224V. 18-20" is good soooo, my 733 11.5" barrel was stolen by my modern SBR, so the heat gun is currently a 10.3" retro upper. I am always swapping bbl lemgths from 10.3 - 11.5 - 14.5 on that upper. I dumpppp ammo with the 733 upper. its dangerous. beware building one and then watching that movie! lol Wait. Oh...geez okay.. he repurposed that shit. 
Long week. My CNC VMC is broken and I have been playing with manual crap lately. The new Okuma is supposed to be up next week. Thank you, Jesus. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 5/3/2019 12:14:59 AM EDT
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lol im partial to manual mills myself ;)
yeah i need another 11.5" barrel. but im always redoing builds. in time. i got finals and then i gotta get a reap machining job, so i can afford more clones hahaha |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 4:07:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: lancecriminal86]
[#19]
A longstanding mystery is now answered:
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VA, USA
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Posted: 5/3/2019 5:02:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lancecriminal86:
A longstanding mystery is now answered: https://i.imgur.com/YaFUx7i.jpg https://i.imgur.com/OJ23yEM.jpg https://i.imgur.com/jP5Xbhb.jpg https://i.imgur.com/IWwRZZX.jpg  Family history of dementia.
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Posted: 5/3/2019 5:03:56 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 44Echo10: What was the mystery again? I probably read it...then I forgot it. Getting old is a bitch. Family history of dementia.
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VA, USA
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Posted: 5/3/2019 5:12:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 44Echo10]
[#22]
Shoulder location on the barrel and depth of the step in the collar.
The Noveske is the real deal barrel...right? |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 5:17:32 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 44Echo10:
Shoulder location on the barrel and depth of the step in the collar. The Noveske is the real deal barrel...right? 
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VA, USA
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Posted: 5/3/2019 5:25:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 44Echo10]
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lancecriminal86:
Did I imply either barrel wasn't a real deal? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lancecriminal86:
Originally Posted By 44Echo10:
Shoulder location on the barrel and depth of the step in the collar. The Noveske is the real deal barrel...right?  Obviously they are real.
You scored an H take off barrel? Probably a better phrasing. Cool beans, man. ETA: Or, both are H take off barrels. Even cooler |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 8:49:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 44Echo10: Obviously they are real.
You scored an H take off barrel? Probably a better phrasing. Cool beans, man. ETA: Or, both are H take off barrels. Even cooler Bottom one is a "prototype" Holland barrel from the first few made, top is a Noveske as seen on the rest of them. Note that it is NOT a Recon profile. So, now we know why PRI's Bergara barrels are profiled like this... 16" Bergara barrel I guess we have a new crown for "most correct commercial Holland barrel" |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 8:58:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ArmyPilot12]
[#26]
But who here has used/shot a Bergara H barrel? I've looked at them but can't find any actual Bergara users, other than CVA black powder shooters.
ETA For the same price, you're in WOA territory. |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 9:30:19 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ArmyPilot12:
But who here has used/shot a Bergara H barrel? I've looked at them but can't find any actual Bergara users, other than CVA black powder shooters. ETA For the same price, you're in WOA territory. No direct experience with their barrels on a gas gun, but it should translate well. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 5/3/2019 10:41:24 PM EDT
[#28]
oooh good info. ill.get a pei tu e next go around after this Bison is shot tf out :)
glad its resdy to go, and to spec :) |
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Posted: 5/3/2019 10:47:45 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HaveBlue83:
oooh good info. ill.get a pei tu e next go around after this Bison is shot tf out :) glad its resdy to go, and to spec :)  have we?
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Posted: 5/3/2019 11:09:39 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HaveBlue83:
oooh good info. ill.get a pei tu e next go around after this Bison is shot tf out :) glad its resdy to go, and to spec :)
I couldn't speak English, let alone type it, the last time I got in to grandma's cough syrup either.
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Posted: 5/4/2019 1:33:31 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HaveBlue83:
oooh good info. ill.get a pei tu e next go around after this Bison is shot tf out :) glad its resdy to go, and to spec :) |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 5/4/2019 8:07:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: HaveBlue83]
[#32]
OMFG i hate my phone sometimes. jeusssss
Good to know, ill pick up a *PRI tube next go around* LOL |
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Posted: 5/5/2019 6:48:41 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ArmyPilot12:
But who here has used/shot a Bergara H barrel? I've looked at them but can't find any actual Bergara users, other than CVA black powder shooters. ETA For the same price, you're in WOA territory. |
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Posted: 5/13/2019 12:42:18 AM EDT
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PA, USA
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Posted: 5/14/2019 12:15:14 AM EDT
[#35]
nice mount. aint it lovely???
290days on the AEM5. TIME TO CALL MY CONGRESSMAN 
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MI, USA
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Posted: 5/14/2019 8:06:24 PM EDT
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So I’ve been curious as to why some H’s have a MOD0 length handguard and the Hollands that PRI has on their website don’t? They have a shorter “rail”
And retain the flip front site where others have a rail sight? Also how does the MODH stand up accuracy wise? I’m torn between a PRI 0 or H I’ve got a 10.3 now that’ll be my lower for the time being till I get a more correct lower. |
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Posted: 5/14/2019 8:22:59 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JustinRyan:
So I’ve been curious as to why some H’s have a MOD0 length handguard and the Hollands that PRI has on their website don’t? They have a shorter “rail” And retain the flip front site where others have a rail sight? Also how does the MODH stand up accuracy wise? I’m torn between a PRI 0 or H I’ve got a 10.3 now that’ll be my lower for the time being till I get a more correct lower. |
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Posted: 5/15/2019 3:28:40 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HaveBlue83:
nice mount. aint it lovely??? 290days on the AEM5. TIME TO CALL MY CONGRESSMAN https://i.postimg.cc/8k7LXLPz/IMG-20190514-001213.jpg |
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Posted: 5/17/2019 7:43:43 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HaveBlue83:
nice mount. aint it lovely??? 290days on the AEM5. TIME TO CALL MY CONGRESSMAN https://i.postimg.cc/8k7LXLPz/IMG-20190514-001213.jpg |
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Posted: 5/26/2019 11:32:59 PM EDT
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Has anyone had clearance issues between the gas block and top rail screw on the forearm? Been chasing accuracy issues with this thing and I got to looking down the tube and noticed the top of the block looked awful close to the retainer plate. I could see the end of the screw poking through the plate and looked like it was touching the block. I pulled the screw and can see a big shiny spot no the block where it's been hammering the end of the screw.
Might try to shoot it without that screw in place and if that doesn't work I think it's going to need a teardown and maybe lap the receiver face. |
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Posted: 5/27/2019 1:17:38 AM EDT
[#41]
Just looked at mine and the second screw from the end of the top rail is very close, could be in contact during recoil but I've not had any issues with it.
Pri Douglas barrel and gas block on mine. Did not pull the screw yet. What accuracy issues are you having? |
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Posted: 5/27/2019 10:02:31 AM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RMiller:
Just looked at mine and the second screw from the end of the top rail is very close, could be in contact during recoil but I've not had any issues with it. Pri Douglas barrel and gas block on mine. Did not pull the screw yet. What accuracy issues are you having? |
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Posted: 5/27/2019 4:13:46 PM EDT
[#43]
Interesting, mine has been very consistent with mk262 mod 1 which is all I shoot and looks like my screw is touching as well.
I'll have to pull it out later to confirm and see if that changes anything, I am hesitant to mess with it though. |
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Posted: 5/27/2019 4:20:42 PM EDT
[#44]
I put a plastic washer on my screw and that took care of it. Screw is flush with plate now.
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Posted: 5/27/2019 7:18:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Engel12626]
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Has anyone had clearance issues between the gas block and top rail screw on the forearm? I figured it was just my adjustable gas block, but I guess not. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 5/27/2019 7:22:24 PM EDT
[#46]
Ugh I’m seriously considering parting out my Mod 1 upper to build either this with a Bison Armory barrel.
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Posted: 5/27/2019 7:32:23 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Engel12626:
Had the same issue. Cut the back plate and I just don't use that second screw. No more problems. I figured it was just my adjustable gas block, but I guess not. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Engel12626:
Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Has anyone had clearance issues between the gas block and top rail screw on the forearm? I figured it was just my adjustable gas block, but I guess not. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 5/30/2019 1:46:10 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Has anyone had clearance issues between the gas block and top rail screw on the forearm? Been chasing accuracy issues with this thing and I got to looking down the tube and noticed the top of the block looked awful close to the retainer plate. I could see the end of the screw poking through the plate and looked like it was touching the block. I pulled the screw and can see a big shiny spot no the block where it's been hammering the end of the screw. Might try to shoot it without that screw in place and if that doesn't work I think it's going to need a teardown and maybe lap the receiver face. this is really a design flaw that I wonder how many people catch. mine used to be ON the GB, groups alll over the place! PS: 306 days, still pending. |
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Posted: 5/30/2019 2:37:52 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HaveBlue83:
I removed the screw and metal plate and massaged off metal from the plate and then made the screw flush with that. I had been using an SLR and then a Wojtek agb and the SLR was WAY high. I had to mill off metal from that. I did just recently go to a PRI adj gas block and it fits fine (have to pull the forearm to adjust tho.). this is really a design flaw that I wonder how many people catch. mine used to be ON the GB, groups alll over the place! PS: 306 days, still pending. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HaveBlue83:
Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Has anyone had clearance issues between the gas block and top rail screw on the forearm? Been chasing accuracy issues with this thing and I got to looking down the tube and noticed the top of the block looked awful close to the retainer plate. I could see the end of the screw poking through the plate and looked like it was touching the block. I pulled the screw and can see a big shiny spot no the block where it's been hammering the end of the screw. Might try to shoot it without that screw in place and if that doesn't work I think it's going to need a teardown and maybe lap the receiver face. this is really a design flaw that I wonder how many people catch. mine used to be ON the GB, groups alll over the place! PS: 306 days, still pending.
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VA, USA
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Posted: 5/31/2019 4:37:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HaveBlue83: I removed the screw and metal plate and massaged off metal from the plate and then made the screw flush with that. I had been using an SLR and then a Wojtek agb and the SLR was WAY high. I had to mill off metal from that. I did just recently go to a PRI adj gas block and it fits fine (have to pull the forearm to adjust tho.). this is really a design flaw that I wonder how many people catch. mine used to be ON the GB, groups alll over the place! PS: 306 days, still pending. Have you fellows got a fix that works figured out? The forearm, recce rail, and barrel are all the higher dollar things I need for an H. I am now considering a Block II recce with a DD rail since this seems to be a common theme with the PRI system.  I really wanted to do an H build in 6.8 SPC since the man had a big hand in both...and 6.8 was looked at early on in the SPR development.
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