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Posted: 5/23/2016 8:42:52 AM EDT
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Spikes "The Jack" billet lower
Spikes forged upper (or maybe billet, not sure) 13" keymod non alpha version Spikes lower parts kit minus fire control group Ergo grip BCM ambi charging handle Spikes Nickle Boron bolt carrier group Geissele 2 stage trigger ( not sure which one yet) 16" Noveske CHF low pro gas block barrel BCM Gunfighter stock kit Troy folding sights front and rear (W/ Tritium) Trigicon Acog/Rmr combo Barking Spider brake What do y'all think?! This is my first build. I'll build the complete lower part then do the complete upper at another time. Trijicon optics will come even later! Haha Without the Trijicon optics, I should be around the $2k margin. For an awesome rifle I'll take that! |
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That lower is a good one if that's what you want. All of my lowers are Spikes, I just personally don't care for their billet line too much, but that's personal preference. Their billet upper looks great, but I don't know much about them, so you may want to look at potential proprietary parts, or other fitment issues. For example, I know some billet uppers won't allow the use of a BAD lever, or other similar bolt catch add-ons. I don't use those levers, so it wouldn't matter to me, but it's a turn off for some.
I have some NiB BCGs, and none of them have given me any issues. However, after reading around here a lot, I really wish all of my BCGs were mil-spec. I'm not buying in to the NiB craze anymore. Also, not sure where you're getting your barrel from, but does it come with a mil-spec bolt? You may want to get a matching BCG to put it in. For the price of that barrel, you may as well get the the one that comes with a matched bolt. My favorite Geissele has been the super dynamic, mine is combat, but I plan on also getting an enhanced. I really like the feel of a flat trigger. FWIW, I also like my SSA quite a bit. There's just something about a flat trigger, it feels really nice on my fingertip, and the pull is completely different. I would personally reconsider a barking spider on a 16" barrel. I think a standard A2 birdcage would serve you better for this build. Comps make the already loud 5.56 even louder, and unless you're shooting competitively, you will probably never realize the benefit, especially on a 16" barrel. If you notice, the descriptions of these things are usually geared towards SBRs. You've listed out some good parts that will make a quality rifle as you have them listed, that's just my $0.02. |
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Why don't you care for their billet lineup? And I may get a billet upper to match the billet lower! I don't know what BAD levers are so I don't guess I'll be using them. Any other down sides to billet uppers/lowers?
So should I use the RCA black nitride bcg that Noveske has listed on their website? It's the only one they have listed. Why not use Nickle boron? Interesting on the flat trigger! I'll have to look into that. And I've heard that the barking spider brake was really good on sbr's so I'll look into the A2 birdcage! Thanks for the insight! |
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Why don't you care for their billet lineup? And I may get a billet upper to match the billet lower! I don't know what BAD levers are so I don't guess I'll be using them. Any other down sides to billet uppers/lowers? So should I use the RCA black nitride bcg that Noveske has listed on their website? It's the only one they have listed. Why not use Nickle boron? Interesting on the flat trigger! I'll have to look into that. And I've heard that the barking spider brake was really good on sbr's so I'll look into the A2 birdcage! Thanks for the insight! Again, those are my personal preferences, and what you've listed will work, so just do some more research and thinking before you start ordering parts. After my first build, I had a really expensive adjustable gas block and a rear sight that I had no use for, because I started ordering "nice" parts before I really knew what I was doing. I don't mean any offense by that, it's easy to think you know everything you want, but it's really beneficial to keep reading and keep thinking once you think you're ready. My first build didn't find it's final configuration for 2 years after the first version was complete. I personally don't like Spikes billet receivers for two reasons : 1) I don't like billet receivers. I think they look nice, and I think they're quality products, but I think they charge a premium purely for cosmetics. I don't think it adds to performance or reliability, so for me, that money can be spent in other areas that do add to performance and reliability. There are also some billet receivers, I don't know about Spikes in particular, but some of them do use proprietary parts, which I also refuse to have. Some people have even suggested that forged receivers are stronger than billet, but I haven't looked in to that much, so don't quote me. 2) I think Spikes billet lowers in particular are cheesy. I've said in other threads that I think they look like something Elmer Fudd would go rabbit hunting with. For me, a gun is a weapon, and weapons aren't supposed to be pretty, but that's just my personal preference. I won't even buy a lower with color fill. I wasn't referring to Noveske's BCGs, just that some of their barrels from certain vendors come with a matched bolt, not an entire BCG. If I was spending that kind of money on a barrel, I would probably spend a little extra for the matching bolt. Then you can either get a bolt carrier without a bolt, or just get a complete BCG and stash the bolt away for a spare part. There isn't necessarily anything wrong with NiB, but for the most part, I've categorized these new finishes on BCGs the same as billet receivers, as you are paying a premium to fix a problem that didn't exist in the first place. |
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Oh and I'm not getting the alpha version of the kmr's so they should be more durable and still be relatively light. The Alpha IS the more "durable" version, not the other way around. The material used for the standard KMR is quite brittle, hence the reason for the all aluminum Alpha model (the Alpha is slightly heavier, though). |
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The Alpha IS the more "durable" version, not the other way around. The material used for the standard KMR is quite brittle, hence the reason for the all aluminum Alpha model (the Alpha is slightly heavier, though). Quoted:
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Oh and I'm not getting the alpha version of the kmr's so they should be more durable and still be relatively light. The Alpha IS the more "durable" version, not the other way around. The material used for the standard KMR is quite brittle, hence the reason for the all aluminum Alpha model (the Alpha is slightly heavier, though). I was not aware of this! Thanks for pointing that out! I would have been pissed to find out after the fact 
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