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7/29/2015 2:52:34 PM EDT
Does anyone have any experience with the the Anderson RF85 upper/BCG?
7/29/2015 3:50:29 PM EDT
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I've got a complete rifle with RF85 and love it.
7/29/2015 4:08:52 PM EDT
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Nice...I have a anderson lower, non rf85...so I am thinking about getting the rf85 upper. According to Anderson the non rf85 works just fine with the upper.
7/29/2015 5:16:14 PM EDT
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It's a marketing scam. Don't think you can buy it and not use lube.
7/29/2015 6:03:13 PM EDT
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Can you elaborate?
7/29/2015 6:04:12 PM EDT
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It's a marketing scam. Don't think you can buy it and not use lube.
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This.
7/29/2015 7:02:13 PM EDT
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Yep.  In his "AR High Round Count" thread, Henderson indirectly hinted that an Anderson upper with RF-85 treatment failed miserably under fully automatic fire.

I wouldn't buy one unless it was $150 for a complete upper without BCG.
7/29/2015 7:35:57 PM EDT
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Scam. Do not buy RF85 parts. My non RF85 Anderson parts are fine however. But the RF85 coating is bullshit. Ask HendersonDefense if you don't believe me.

Anderson is ok for stripped receivers, BCG's, etc. Just do not buy anything RF85 coated. Your AR needs lubrication.
7/29/2015 8:46:52 PM EDT
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Yep.  In his "AR High Round Count" thread, Henderson indirectly hinted that an Anderson upper with RF-85 treatment failed miserably under fully automatic fire.

I wouldn't buy one unless it was $150 for a complete upper without BCG.
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Yep.  In his "AR High Round Count" thread, Henderson indirectly hinted that an Anderson upper with RF-85 treatment failed miserably under fully automatic fire.

I wouldn't buy one unless it was $150 for a complete upper without BCG.


Why would he only indirectly hint at a miserable failure? Does he have video of the failure?
7/29/2015 8:48:32 PM EDT
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Yes, can you elaborate.
7/29/2015 8:49:16 PM EDT
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Why would he only indirectly hint at a miserable failure? Does he have video of the failure?
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Yep.  In his "AR High Round Count" thread, Henderson indirectly hinted that an Anderson upper with RF-85 treatment failed miserably under fully automatic fire.

I wouldn't buy one unless it was $150 for a complete upper without BCG.


Why would he only indirectly hint at a miserable failure? Does he have video of the failure?

You can believe him or not.

Buy the RF-85 if it makes you happy.
7/29/2015 9:07:33 PM EDT
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Yep.  In his "AR High Round Count" thread, Henderson indirectly hinted that an Anderson upper with RF-85 treatment failed miserably under fully automatic fire.

I wouldn't buy one unless it was $150 for a complete upper without BCG.


Why would he only indirectly hint at a miserable failure? Does he have video of the failure?

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7/29/2015 9:11:07 PM EDT
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Yep.  In his "AR High Round Count" thread, Henderson indirectly hinted that an Anderson upper with RF-85 treatment failed miserably under fully automatic fire.

I wouldn't buy one unless it was $150 for a complete upper without BCG.


Why would he only indirectly hint at a miserable failure? Does he have video of the failure?

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Here is the link to the Henderson Thread. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/677135_High_round_count_AR_M4_s__over_100_000_rounds__and_how_they_have_handled_on_our_range.html
I have never rock n rolled all day on full auto...so I am not sure this applies to low volume shooters.
7/29/2015 9:31:18 PM EDT
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I shot about 1200rds through mine and it eats everything. I've never lubed or cleaned it. I shoot 55-75 grain from 25-600 yards never a malfunction and more accurate than me.
7/29/2015 11:12:02 PM EDT
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1200 rounds with NO lube or cleaning??
7/30/2015 9:26:56 AM EDT
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I found this review video... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXO07hVFhhk

I am going to go for it.
9/18/2015 7:46:37 PM EDT
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So I ordered the rf85 upper to go with my non rf85 lower. I have put around 200 rounds through it with no issues. It is very accurate. I don't love the flash hider it came with, so I might switch that out. But so far, so good.
9/19/2015 12:32:42 AM EDT
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I like my anderson lowers it sucks to see them join in the snake oil sales techniques though.

9/19/2015 12:39:03 AM EDT
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Yep.  In his "AR High Round Count" thread, Henderson indirectly hinted that an Anderson upper with RF-85 treatment failed miserably under fully automatic fire.

I wouldn't buy one unless it was $150 for a complete upper without BCG.


Why would he only indirectly hint at a miserable failure? Does he have video of the failure?

Henderson made no such reference to any specific company.  Keep in mind that there have been several companies for years now claiming no lube is necessary.

At least one of them recanted after high volume testing.  Remember FailZero and WMD Guns?
9/19/2015 4:48:51 AM EDT
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Second RF85 thread this week? It's feeling shilly in here.
9/19/2015 2:57:44 PM EDT
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They didn't join the snake oil sales technique. They invented it. They invented shill guerrilla marketing with their posting on this board.

Not one nickel ever for Anderson, and always look at and consider join dates and post counts for posters asking about their products.
9/22/2015 4:25:59 PM EDT
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They didn't join the snake oil sales technique. They invented it. They invented shill guerrilla marketing with their posting on this board.

Not one nickel ever for Anderson, and always look at and consider join dates and post counts for posters asking about their products.
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They didn't join the snake oil sales technique. They invented it. They invented shill guerrilla marketing with their posting on this board.

Not one nickel ever for Anderson, and always look at and consider join dates and post counts for posters asking about their products.


So I have a Windham Weaponry Model 15 that I love and I also built a 308 this winter using the AERO precision M5 upper/lower and a Rainier Select Mid Barrel. I guess I am shilling for all these companies?
I said the Anderson was so far so good with 200 rounds through it...I didn't say it was the best rifle anyone could ever buy.
9/22/2015 5:52:31 PM EDT
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So I have a Windham Weaponry Model 15 that I love and I also built a 308 this winter using the AERO precision M5 upper/lower and a Rainier Select Mid Barrel. I guess I am shilling for all these companies?
I said the Anderson was so far so good with 200 rounds through it...I didn't say it was the best rifle anyone could ever buy.
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They didn't join the snake oil sales technique. They invented it. They invented shill guerrilla marketing with their posting on this board.

Not one nickel ever for Anderson, and always look at and consider join dates and post counts for posters asking about their products.


So I have a Windham Weaponry Model 15 that I love and I also built a 308 this winter using the AERO precision M5 upper/lower and a Rainier Select Mid Barrel. I guess I am shilling for all these companies?
I said the Anderson was so far so good with 200 rounds through it...I didn't say it was the best rifle anyone could ever buy.


Apparently you don't understand what shilling means. If you don't work for any of the firms mentioned then you aren't shilling.

Anderson had employees posting to this board acting like pleased consumers. Extolling the virtues of their products. That is shilling. It's also outright lying.
9/22/2015 7:41:02 PM EDT
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Apparently you don't understand what shilling means. If you don't work for any of the firms mentioned then you aren't shilling.

Anderson had employees posting to this board acting like pleased consumers. Extolling the virtues of their products. That is shilling. It's also outright lying.
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I like my anderson lowers it sucks to see them join in the snake oil sales techniques though.



They didn't join the snake oil sales technique. They invented it. They invented shill guerrilla marketing with their posting on this board.

Not one nickel ever for Anderson, and always look at and consider join dates and post counts for posters asking about their products.


So I have a Windham Weaponry Model 15 that I love and I also built a 308 this winter using the AERO precision M5 upper/lower and a Rainier Select Mid Barrel. I guess I am shilling for all these companies?
I said the Anderson was so far so good with 200 rounds through it...I didn't say it was the best rifle anyone could ever buy.


Apparently you don't understand what shilling means. If you don't work for any of the firms mentioned then you aren't shilling.

Anderson had employees posting to this board acting like pleased consumers. Extolling the virtues of their products. That is shilling. It's also outright lying.

No, I understand perfectly. I was pointing out that fact that I have posted about other companies products. So before you accuse someone of being a shill, you might want to check out their other post and not just go off of when they joined and how many post they have.
9/22/2015 7:44:32 PM EDT
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5000 rounds through mine and I haven't had any failures. Does not need lube and doesn't afraid of anything.




Obviously a scam/gimmick.
9/22/2015 7:48:47 PM EDT
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5000 rounds through mine and I haven't had any failures. Does not need lube and doesn't afraid of anything.




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You must be an Anderson shill. You only joined in 2013. I bet all your post are about how great rf85 is.
9/22/2015 8:00:43 PM EDT
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No, I understand perfectly. I was pointing out that fact that I have posted about other companies products. So before you accuse someone of being a shill, you might want to check out their other post and not just go off of when they joined and how many post they have.
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I like my anderson lowers it sucks to see them join in the snake oil sales techniques though.



They didn't join the snake oil sales technique. They invented it. They invented shill guerrilla marketing with their posting on this board.

Not one nickel ever for Anderson, and always look at and consider join dates and post counts for posters asking about their products.


So I have a Windham Weaponry Model 15 that I love and I also built a 308 this winter using the AERO precision M5 upper/lower and a Rainier Select Mid Barrel. I guess I am shilling for all these companies?
I said the Anderson was so far so good with 200 rounds through it...I didn't say it was the best rifle anyone could ever buy.


Apparently you don't understand what shilling means. If you don't work for any of the firms mentioned then you aren't shilling.

Anderson had employees posting to this board acting like pleased consumers. Extolling the virtues of their products. That is shilling. It's also outright lying.

No, I understand perfectly. I was pointing out that fact that I have posted about other companies products. So before you accuse someone of being a shill, you might want to check out their other post and not just go off of when they joined and how many post they have.



I never accused you of being a shill. I simply pointed out that join dates and post counts are something to consider when judging someone a shill poster. I wasn't referring to you in any way.

9/22/2015 8:02:51 PM EDT
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Honestly I have no problems with buying andersons lowers/uppers uber cheap.

But I'm extremely doubtful that their special formula allows their rifles to run lube/oil free. Believe there was a thread somewhere here on ar15.com about high round count ARs. He couldn't name any names, but hinted that anderson's snake oil failed.
9/23/2015 6:47:26 PM EDT
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They didn't join the snake oil sales technique. They invented it. They invented shill guerrilla marketing with their posting on this board.

Not one nickel ever for Anderson, and always look at and consider join dates and post counts for posters asking about their products.
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They didn't join the snake oil sales technique. They invented it. They invented shill guerrilla marketing with their posting on this board.

Not one nickel ever for Anderson, and always look at and consider join dates and post counts for posters asking about their products.


Don't get me wrong i dont like companies doing it and i dont buy into the lubeless ar but they didnt invent the snake oil or shills you've been around here long enough to know that.

Pof used to advertise their piston guns as lubeless and im almost certain lwrc was guilty of some shilling fiasco on here years ago to name a couple
9/23/2015 8:28:21 PM EDT
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Don't get me wrong i dont like companies doing it and i dont buy into the lubeless ar but they didnt invent the snake oil or shills you've been around here long enough to know that.

Pof used to advertise their piston guns as lubeless and im almost certain lwrc was guilty of some shilling fiasco on here years ago to name a couple
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I like my anderson lowers it sucks to see them join in the snake oil sales techniques though.



They didn't join the snake oil sales technique. They invented it. They invented shill guerrilla marketing with their posting on this board.

Not one nickel ever for Anderson, and always look at and consider join dates and post counts for posters asking about their products.


Don't get me wrong i dont like companies doing it and i dont buy into the lubeless ar but they didnt invent the snake oil or shills you've been around here long enough to know that.

Pof used to advertise their piston guns as lubeless and im almost certain lwrc was guilty of some shilling fiasco on here years ago to name a couple


I know that. I was being factious and sarcastic. Paul LW was worse then they were.
9/24/2015 8:55:42 AM EDT
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Gone off track / non technical
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