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Posted: 7/26/2015 1:00:19 AM EDT
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For just plinking at 50 yards or so, any reason not to buy a Bushmaster?
Now that Remington owns Bushmaster have there been any significant changes? |
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Absolutely nothing wrong with buying a Bushmaster for 50 yd plinking or even home defense. Just don't expect it to be a shoot the wings off a fly at 800 meters type weapon. My only gripe is the commercial receiver extension. Comm RE's need to DIE DIE DIE.
If I bought a Bushy I'd throw a BCM extension on it and be 100 percent content. You'd still be better off going PSA premium with PSA lower though for the same price. But I'll quit rambling now since you just want to plink at 50. |
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Nothing wrong with a Bushy for 95% of most people out there who just want to shoot and have fun. I have had a lot of AR's and a few Bushmasters and never had an issue with any of them. If you get a newer one with a commercial RE you can always change it out but if you are not going to change the stock and it works why bother?.
Buy, shoot , enjoy. |
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you can get better for the same or less money. Because lets face it after you spend time here you will want something better than the bushmaster.. It starts with plinking at 50 yards then its killing zombies by the thousands
Spikes Rifles Palmetto State Armory Rifles These are probably the best bag for you buck here. Stay with the Premium or Freedom line |
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Nothing wrong at all. If you like old bushy quality check out Windham weaponry. It is the old plant and employees with a new name If I had to choose between a Bushmaster rifle and a Windham Weaponry rifle I would take the Windham Weaponry rifle for sure. Windham Weaponry has the option of 1/7 twist barrels now and their assembly tooling is much better now than it was when they were Bushmaster. Actually their upper receiver barreling jig and barrel wrench that they use at the factory are some of the best AR assembly tools that I have ever seen. Though Colt is much better than either Bushy or WW. |
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For just plinking at 50 yards or so, any reason not to buy a Bushmaster? Now that Remington owns Bushmaster have there been any significant changes? I notice their BCG has improved over the years. It is now properly staked and comes with a o-ring. That's pretty good. As far as what to stay away from, the Carbon 15 is probably not something you want at least if you want to keep your option open. Just note, that although Bushmaster comes with a lot of commercial parts, you can easily swap them out with whatever you want. |
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$600
PSA chf midlength LW upper $430 http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/ar-15-05/barreled-upper-assemblies/psa-14-7-chf-mid-length-lightweight-5-56-nato-1-7-premium-upper-with-bcg-and-ch.html + PSA lower with MagPul furniture $170 http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/psa-ar-15-complete-lower-magpul-ctr-black-blem.html |
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Ask the Mall Ninjas how many Bushmaster AR's they have actually owned. I bought one in 1995 and another one about a year ago. Neither one has broken yet, and they are no more/no less accurate than any other average AR. People always come out with this crap. While you very well may get a Bushmaster that's "just as good as" a Colt, S&W, etc., their QC, assembly techniques, and parts selection have been lacking behind the competition (at least in the past) for years. It's the confidence aspect that is lacking and because of their lackluster QC, it's hard to trust that something won't break at an inopportune moment. Call it "mall ninja" or whatever other dumb fucking comment you want to, but having confidence that your shit won't break, especially when it costs the same as one of those other, more highly regarded brands, is a big deal. |
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For just plinking at 50 yards or so, any reason not to buy a Bushmaster? Now that Remington owns Bushmaster have there been any significant changes? 1 Price / features-configuration if all that matches up for you then it's probably fine...... Today is the good ole days for ar's. I think what a lot of people are getting at is you can buy a top of the line ar for cheap now days......... 2 They are probably better Watched a deal the other day about the Remington / DPMS 308 AR it looks promising. Remington spends more on R&D than anyone in the gun industry they claimed. |
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People always come out with this crap. While you very well may get a Bushmaster that's "just as good as" a Colt, S&W, etc., their QC, assembly techniques, and parts selection have been lacking behind the competition (at least in the past) for years. It's the confidence aspect that is lacking and because of their lackluster QC, it's hard to trust that something won't break at an inopportune moment. Call it "mall ninja" or whatever other dumb fucking comment you want to, but having confidence that your shit won't break, especially when it costs the same as one of those other, more highly regarded brands, is a big deal. Quoted:
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Ask the Mall Ninjas how many Bushmaster AR's they have actually owned. I bought one in 1995 and another one about a year ago. Neither one has broken yet, and they are no more/no less accurate than any other average AR. People always come out with this crap. While you very well may get a Bushmaster that's "just as good as" a Colt, S&W, etc., their QC, assembly techniques, and parts selection have been lacking behind the competition (at least in the past) for years. It's the confidence aspect that is lacking and because of their lackluster QC, it's hard to trust that something won't break at an inopportune moment. Call it "mall ninja" or whatever other dumb fucking comment you want to, but having confidence that your shit won't break, especially when it costs the same as one of those other, more highly regarded brands, is a big deal. Don't get so butt hurt that less expensive rifles can actually work for more than a few minutes at a time. The guy is asking about a plinking rifle, not a duty rifle. Had he asked about a rifle that he would be carrying all day long for his job, my answer would be different. Never for a second did I say "just as good as Colt, S&W, etc.", and I don't give a shit that it's not mil-spec. I have fired them both enough to be fully confident that they function 100% of the time, every time. Oh, and by the way, how Bushmaster AR's many have you owned ? |
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Don't get so butt hurt that less expensive rifles can actually work for more than a few minutes at a time. The guy is asking about a plinking rifle, not a duty rifle. Had he asked about a rifle that he would be carrying all day long for his job, my answer would be different. Never for a second did I say "just as good as Colt, S&W, etc.", and I don't give a shit that it's not mil-spec. I have fired them both enough to be fully confident that they function 100% of the time, every time. Oh, and by the way, how Bushmaster AR's many have you owned ? Quoted:
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Ask the Mall Ninjas how many Bushmaster AR's they have actually owned. I bought one in 1995 and another one about a year ago. Neither one has broken yet, and they are no more/no less accurate than any other average AR. People always come out with this crap. While you very well may get a Bushmaster that's "just as good as" a Colt, S&W, etc., their QC, assembly techniques, and parts selection have been lacking behind the competition (at least in the past) for years. It's the confidence aspect that is lacking and because of their lackluster QC, it's hard to trust that something won't break at an inopportune moment. Call it "mall ninja" or whatever other dumb fucking comment you want to, but having confidence that your shit won't break, especially when it costs the same as one of those other, more highly regarded brands, is a big deal. Don't get so butt hurt that less expensive rifles can actually work for more than a few minutes at a time. The guy is asking about a plinking rifle, not a duty rifle. Had he asked about a rifle that he would be carrying all day long for his job, my answer would be different. Never for a second did I say "just as good as Colt, S&W, etc.", and I don't give a shit that it's not mil-spec. I have fired them both enough to be fully confident that they function 100% of the time, every time. Oh, and by the way, how Bushmaster AR's many have you owned ? What are you even talking about?  Butthurt about what? Where did I say a Bushmaster wouldn't function for "more than a few minutes at a time"?
All I did was point out the widely documented issues (I have witnessed these first hand as well) that are common with Bushy AR's. The only one that appears butthurt here is you. Just to point out, I don't own a single factory built AR, cheap or expensive, so I don't have a dog in this fight. It is you who appears to be attempting to justify your purchase. I also don't care if the guy is just looking for a plinking rifle. When most Bushy AR's typically cost just about as much if not slightly more than the more highly regarded options out there, there is no reason to go with the possibly less reliable option. Your sample size of 2 doesn't change the fact that Bushmaster has a reputation they have earned. |
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Ask the Mall Ninjas how many Bushmaster AR's they have actually owned. I bought one in 1995 and another one about a year ago. Neither one has broken yet, and they are no more/no less accurate than any other average AR. nobody here has said it sucks, just that for the same money, there are better options |
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What are you even talking about? Butthurt about what? Where did I say a Bushmaster wouldn't function for "more than a few minutes at a time"?
All I did was point out the widely documented issues (I have witnessed these first hand as well) that are common with Bushy AR's. The only one that appears butthurt here is you. Just to point out, I don't own a single factory built AR, cheap or expensive, so I don't have a dog in this fight. It is you who appears to be attempting to justify your purchase. I also don't care if the guy is just looking for a plinking rifle. When most Bushy AR's typically cost just about as much if not slightly more than the more highly regarded options out there, there is no reason to go with the possibly less reliable option. Your sample size of 2 doesn't change the fact that Bushmaster has a reputation they have earned. Quoted:
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Ask the Mall Ninjas how many Bushmaster AR's they have actually owned. I bought one in 1995 and another one about a year ago. Neither one has broken yet, and they are no more/no less accurate than any other average AR. People always come out with this crap. While you very well may get a Bushmaster that's "just as good as" a Colt, S&W, etc., their QC, assembly techniques, and parts selection have been lacking behind the competition (at least in the past) for years. It's the confidence aspect that is lacking and because of their lackluster QC, it's hard to trust that something won't break at an inopportune moment. Call it "mall ninja" or whatever other dumb fucking comment you want to, but having confidence that your shit won't break, especially when it costs the same as one of those other, more highly regarded brands, is a big deal. Don't get so butt hurt that less expensive rifles can actually work for more than a few minutes at a time. The guy is asking about a plinking rifle, not a duty rifle. Had he asked about a rifle that he would be carrying all day long for his job, my answer would be different. Never for a second did I say "just as good as Colt, S&W, etc.", and I don't give a shit that it's not mil-spec. I have fired them both enough to be fully confident that they function 100% of the time, every time. Oh, and by the way, how Bushmaster AR's many have you owned ? What are you even talking about? Butthurt about what? Where did I say a Bushmaster wouldn't function for "more than a few minutes at a time"?
All I did was point out the widely documented issues (I have witnessed these first hand as well) that are common with Bushy AR's. The only one that appears butthurt here is you. Just to point out, I don't own a single factory built AR, cheap or expensive, so I don't have a dog in this fight. It is you who appears to be attempting to justify your purchase. I also don't care if the guy is just looking for a plinking rifle. When most Bushy AR's typically cost just about as much if not slightly more than the more highly regarded options out there, there is no reason to go with the possibly less reliable option. Your sample size of 2 doesn't change the fact that Bushmaster has a reputation they have earned. I have to say there are a lot of Bushmaster owners out there who might feel that that rep isn't fair. Bushy has made and sold shit ton of rifles over the years. As I stated earlier, I have had a few and know a few shooters who own them as well. I don't recall any one ever having a problem. Then there's the fact that not everyone wants to be an operator... |
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I have to say there are a lot of Bushmaster owners out there who might feel that that rep isn't fair. Bushy has made and sold shit ton of rifles over the years. As I stated earlier, I have had a few and know a few shooters who own them as well. I don't recall any one ever having a problem. Then there's the fact that not everyone wants to be an operator... OK, I'm not sure where I'm being misunderstood here, but let me attempt to rephrase. I'm not saying that you can't get a Bushmaster rifle that functions fine and is properly assembled. Not at all. What I am saying, is that between the massive amounts of online documentation (I understand this has to be taken with a grain of salt) and the hands on experience I have (rifles I've handled at the LGS/Gun Show), it appears that Bushmaster is both lacking in QC as well as proper building techniques. Things I have personally witnessed with Bushy AR's: - Loose barrel nuts (I saw this on two separate Bushy AR's, at two different LGS's). - Loose castle nut. - Either an improperly assembled FCG or one or more parts of said FCG were defective/out of spec (the FCG pins were walking when dry firing). Now, I will admit, my sample size isn't that large (although that's a lot of problems for that small of a sample size). Probably 20 or 30 rifles that I've handled over the past years, but to notice those issues when I have never picked up on anything similar with other quality brands, is quite telling to me. Combine that with the fact that they don't stake their carrier keys or castle nuts (at least they didn't use to if another post in this thread is correct that they now do) and their usage of commercial receiver extensions (admittedly, easy to fix) and Bushmaster AR's don't seem very appealing to me. The biggest part of all this, is that Bushy AR's typically cost roughly the same, if not a little bit more than something like an on sale Colt 6920 or a decent PSA Premium assembled upper/lower set, and I hope you can now see why I recommend against them. I'm also not sure what being "operator" has anything to do with this either. I don't think I've ever heard anybody associate PSA (of which I own three of their uppers) with "operator" status. Why does everybody who comes in here trying to defend Bushy/DPMS have to throw out stupid ass terms like "mall ninja" or "operator"? It makes you guys look like you're trying to justify your purchase, not that other people don't know what they're talking about. |
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OK, I'm not sure where I'm being misunderstood here, but let me attempt to rephrase. I'm not saying that you can't get a Bushmaster rifle that functions fine and is properly assembled. Not at all. What I am saying, is that between the massive amounts of online documentation (I understand this has to be taken with a grain of salt) and the hands on experience I have (rifles I've handled at the LGS/Gun Show), it appears that Bushmaster is both lacking in QC as well as proper building techniques. Things I have personally witnessed with Bushy AR's: - Loose barrel nuts (I saw this on two separate Bushy AR's, at two different LGS's). - Loose castle nut. - Either an improperly assembled FCG or one or more parts of said FCG were defective/out of spec (the FCG pins were walking when dry firing). Now, I will admit, my sample size isn't that large (although that's a lot of problems for that small of a sample size). Probably 20 or 30 rifles that I've handled over the past years, but to notice those issues when I have never picked up on anything similar with other quality brands, is quite telling to me. Combine that with the fact that they don't stake their carrier keys or castle nuts (at least they didn't use to if another post in this thread is correct that they now do) and their usage of commercial receiver extensions and Bushmaster AR's don't seem very appealing to me. The biggest part of all this, is that Bushy AR's typically cost roughly the same, if not a little bit more than something like an on sale Colt 6920 or a decent PSA Premium assembled upper/lower set, and I hope you can now see why I recommend against them. I'm also not sure what being "operator" has anything to do with this either. I don't think I've ever heard anybody associate PSA (of which I own three of their uppers) with "operator" status. Why does everybody who comes in here trying to defend Bushy/DPMS have to throw out stupid ass terms like "mall ninja" or "operator"? It makes you guys look like you're trying to justify your purchase, not that other people don't know what they're talking about. Quoted:
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I have to say there are a lot of Bushmaster owners out there who might feel that that rep isn't fair. Bushy has made and sold shit ton of rifles over the years. As I stated earlier, I have had a few and know a few shooters who own them as well. I don't recall any one ever having a problem. Then there's the fact that not everyone wants to be an operator... OK, I'm not sure where I'm being misunderstood here, but let me attempt to rephrase. I'm not saying that you can't get a Bushmaster rifle that functions fine and is properly assembled. Not at all. What I am saying, is that between the massive amounts of online documentation (I understand this has to be taken with a grain of salt) and the hands on experience I have (rifles I've handled at the LGS/Gun Show), it appears that Bushmaster is both lacking in QC as well as proper building techniques. Things I have personally witnessed with Bushy AR's: - Loose barrel nuts (I saw this on two separate Bushy AR's, at two different LGS's). - Loose castle nut. - Either an improperly assembled FCG or one or more parts of said FCG were defective/out of spec (the FCG pins were walking when dry firing). Now, I will admit, my sample size isn't that large (although that's a lot of problems for that small of a sample size). Probably 20 or 30 rifles that I've handled over the past years, but to notice those issues when I have never picked up on anything similar with other quality brands, is quite telling to me. Combine that with the fact that they don't stake their carrier keys or castle nuts (at least they didn't use to if another post in this thread is correct that they now do) and their usage of commercial receiver extensions and Bushmaster AR's don't seem very appealing to me. The biggest part of all this, is that Bushy AR's typically cost roughly the same, if not a little bit more than something like an on sale Colt 6920 or a decent PSA Premium assembled upper/lower set, and I hope you can now see why I recommend against them. I'm also not sure what being "operator" has anything to do with this either. I don't think I've ever heard anybody associate PSA (of which I own three of their uppers) with "operator" status. Why does everybody who comes in here trying to defend Bushy/DPMS have to throw out stupid ass terms like "mall ninja" or "operator"? It makes you guys look like you're trying to justify your purchase, not that other people don't know what they're talking about. I heard that two out of three Operating Mall Ninjas prefer LaRue! Or is it Daniel Defense this week? LWRC? Who can keep track. |
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One of my ARs is a Bushy. Does fine. But it is in a similar role to what you project OP. Just a range plinker. Mostly for Mrs CatSnipah to enjoy. She's not big on rifles, so it's a light weight easy to enjoy configuration for her.
I'd not put it into training service in anything but a backup role. HD in a pinch would be ok, but I have others for those two (training and HD). If another panic hits, I'd likely try to sell it. But today, it's fine for what it is. Unless you get a strong price on it, I'm with the other posters who suggest at least evaluating other manufacturers. |
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People always come out with this crap. While you very well may get a Bushmaster that's "just as good as" a Colt, S&W, etc., ......... It's the confidence aspect that is lacking and because of their lackluster QC, it's hard to trust that something won't break at an inopportune moment. Call it "mall ninja" or whatever other dumb fucking comment you want to, but having confidence that your shit won't break, especially when it costs the same as one of those other, more highly regarded brands, is a big deal. Quoted:
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Ask the Mall Ninjas how many Bushmaster AR's they have actually owned. I bought one in 1995 and another one about a year ago. Neither one has broken yet, and they are no more/no less accurate than any other average AR. People always come out with this crap. While you very well may get a Bushmaster that's "just as good as" a Colt, S&W, etc., ......... It's the confidence aspect that is lacking and because of their lackluster QC, it's hard to trust that something won't break at an inopportune moment. Call it "mall ninja" or whatever other dumb fucking comment you want to, but having confidence that your shit won't break, especially when it costs the same as one of those other, more highly regarded brands, is a big deal. Why did the Mall Ninja title bunch up your panties so bad, especially since you don't have a dog in the fight ? I don't have to justify my purchases, or give a complete inventory of my rifles. Both Bushmaster rifles are reliable, and of average accuracy. I have the tools and experience to build any AR I want, but I am not into Barbie Doll dress up AR's, or "Tier One" snobbery. If it goes bang every time, it's good enough, if it breaks, I'll fix it myself. Hesse/Blackthorne/Vulcan used to be just across town, so I have seen an AR I would never recommend to a stranger. |
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Why did the Mall Ninja title bunch up your panties so bad, especially since you don't have a dog in the fight ? I don't have to justify my purchases, or give a complete inventory of my rifles. Both Bushmaster rifles are reliable, and of average accuracy. I have the tools and experience to build any AR I want, but I am not into Barbie Doll dress up AR's, or "Tier One" snobbery. If it goes bang every time, it's good enough, if it breaks, I'll fix it myself. Hesse/Blackthorne/Vulcan used to be just across town, so I have seen an AR I would never recommend to a stranger. Quoted:
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Ask the Mall Ninjas how many Bushmaster AR's they have actually owned. I bought one in 1995 and another one about a year ago. Neither one has broken yet, and they are no more/no less accurate than any other average AR. People always come out with this crap. While you very well may get a Bushmaster that's "just as good as" a Colt, S&W, etc., ......... It's the confidence aspect that is lacking and because of their lackluster QC, it's hard to trust that something won't break at an inopportune moment. Call it "mall ninja" or whatever other dumb fucking comment you want to, but having confidence that your shit won't break, especially when it costs the same as one of those other, more highly regarded brands, is a big deal. Why did the Mall Ninja title bunch up your panties so bad, especially since you don't have a dog in the fight ? I don't have to justify my purchases, or give a complete inventory of my rifles. Both Bushmaster rifles are reliable, and of average accuracy. I have the tools and experience to build any AR I want, but I am not into Barbie Doll dress up AR's, or "Tier One" snobbery. If it goes bang every time, it's good enough, if it breaks, I'll fix it myself. Hesse/Blackthorne/Vulcan used to be just across town, so I have seen an AR I would never recommend to a stranger. I, as well as many others here, have made reccomendations for OP to look at PSA. That's about as far away from "tier one snobbery" as you can get (I have no idea what the hell a "Barbie Doll dress up AR" is ).
For some reason you keep misrepresenting what other people are saying. For what reason, I have no clue. In any case, I've laid out my personal experiences with Bushy AR's. They obviously don't mirror yours, but that's why we have tech forums, so people can get input from multiple sources and come to their own conclusions. With that said, I'm done with the discussion. Have a good one, man. 
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I always consider future value when I make a purchase. In a panic buy you can get a lot for a BM because panic buyers are not educated and they know the name from the media (DC sniper and Sandy Hook are not the only examples). That is the only argument I can make for BM. In that situation the only better brand to be selling would be Colt. Not PSA or etc. In the meantime you will be more excited to have a Colt then a BM.
Why might you sell a gun in a panic? Because you have other guns and can use the money for something else important A tip to the young guys. in the 94 gun ban the affected guns sold for more during the panic then after the law was in effect. |
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For just plinking at 50 yards or so, any reason not to buy a Bushmaster? Now that Remington owns Bushmaster have there been any significant changes? No shit? I passed a Remington building on my way out of that state. Didn't realize that was "it" |
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I've got an old bushmaster upper dissapater(or?) tgat has seen its fair share of use. It's never once given me a problem.
I think, in a lot of instances, a bushy will serve most people fine. Just test yours until you feel comfortable with it and trust it. That should go for any gun from bushy to DD to KAC to LaRue. Any gun can have issues. Granted the more expensive should be more reliable and trust worthy off the bat but you get what I'm saying. |
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There is no compelling reason to buy a Bushmaster not with Windham, S&W and others that are much better rifles with much better customer service. walmart 6920, or jus build by the time u replace the CH, stock, handguard ete etc coulda jus built w bcm parts |
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Nothing wrong with Bushmaster, A/B/C was the standard answer of "what do I buy" for years, Armalite, Bushy, and Colt. before we knew better LOL...no that's about all there was!.....well you had Oly too back in the day. DPMS didn't start till 86..RRA in the early/mid 90's |
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Bushmaster rifles are fine, as already said they will work for 95% of people looking for an AR type rifle. And the other 5%, this would be the AR snobs that will tell you if you don't have a KAC, LMT, COLT, or whatever other boutique brand rifle, then you might as well be shooting a cap gun.
"For just plinking at 50 yards", 100 yards, competition, self defense, going to war, or whatever, it will be fine. |
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Bushmaster rifles are fine, as already said they will work for 95% of people looking for an AR type rifle. And the other 5%, this would be the AR snobs that will tell you if you don't have a KAC, LMT, COLT, or whatever other boutique brand rifle, then you might as well be shooting a cap gun. "For just plinking at 50 yards", 100 yards, competition, self defense, going to war, or whatever, it will be fine. Don't listen to DerekT OP, Bushy is not a good choice for self defense or going to war... Though I'm an AR snob, so what do I know. 
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Don't listen to DerekT OP, Bushy is not a good choice for self defense or going to war... Though I'm an AR snob, so what do I know. Quoted:
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Bushmaster rifles are fine, as already said they will work for 95% of people looking for an AR type rifle. And the other 5%, this would be the AR snobs that will tell you if you don't have a KAC, LMT, COLT, or whatever other boutique brand rifle, then you might as well be shooting a cap gun. "For just plinking at 50 yards", 100 yards, competition, self defense, going to war, or whatever, it will be fine. Don't listen to DerekT OP, Bushy is not a good choice for self defense or going to war... Though I'm an AR snob, so what do I know. I don't know about the going to war part, but assuming OP didn't get a lemon, the Bushmaster would be fine for HD. Not like you'd have to fire more than a couple rounds in an HD situation anyways. If you had to use more than 1 mag in an HD scenario, you'd be on TV. I'll tell you that much. |
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I don't know about the going to war part, but assuming OP didn't get a lemon, the Bushmaster would be fine for HD. Not like you'd have to fire more than a couple rounds in an HD situation anyways. If you had to use more than 1 mag in an HD scenario, you'd be on TV. I'll tell you that much. Quoted:
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Bushmaster rifles are fine, as already said they will work for 95% of people looking for an AR type rifle. And the other 5%, this would be the AR snobs that will tell you if you don't have a KAC, LMT, COLT, or whatever other boutique brand rifle, then you might as well be shooting a cap gun. "For just plinking at 50 yards", 100 yards, competition, self defense, going to war, or whatever, it will be fine. Don't listen to DerekT OP, Bushy is not a good choice for self defense or going to war... Though I'm an AR snob, so what do I know. I don't know about the going to war part, but assuming OP didn't get a lemon, the Bushmaster would be fine for HD. Not like you'd have to fire more than a couple rounds in an HD situation anyways. If you had to use more than 1 mag in an HD scenario, you'd be on TV. I'll tell you that much. It might work but it might not, why take the risk? |
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Bushmaster rifles are fine, as already said they will work for 95% of people looking for an AR type rifle. And the other 5%, this would be the AR snobs that will tell you if you don't have a KAC, LMT, COLT, or whatever other boutique brand rifle, then you might as well be shooting a cap gun. "For just plinking at 50 yards", 100 yards, competition, self defense, going to war, or whatever, it will be fine. Don't listen to DerekT OP, Bushy is not a good choice for self defense or going to war... Though I'm an AR snob, so what do I know. I don't know about the going to war part, but assuming OP didn't get a lemon, the Bushmaster would be fine for HD. Not like you'd have to fire more than a couple rounds in an HD situation anyways. If you had to use more than 1 mag in an HD scenario, you'd be on TV. I'll tell you that much. It might work but it might not, why take the risk? I do understand what you mean and agree to an extent. But I assume he would make sure it cycles at the range before locking it away for HD. In which case it would be good to go for HD. It could shoot 15 M.O.A. groups and be ok for H.D. 
For me to take a Bushmaster to war, there would be some serious parts swapping going down first, the stripped receivers being the only thing I kept. So I'm with you on the (Windham) Bushmaster not war quality. |
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We had them as department guns for a long time, served us well. We still have a few floating around. Did I ever see any issues with them?, yep, just like our Colts and S&W rifles. The most notable difference between the three was the barrel, bushy having the shortest life, at around 35k rounds,a few of the rifles were done.
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my new bushmaster upper made a pile of brass three feet to the right and a foot forward....80 rounds... I shot a one hole group so tight it created a black hole and took the target, stand and some range trash.
the 3x20 colt scope was fun but I'm wanting 4-6x I think. I'm going to dremel/ soldering iron the stock. it's gonna be a one-eyed, one-legged whore taking a dump in an outhouse carving. 
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