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[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Colt OEM models (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 5/9/2015 6:29:07 PM EDT
Anyone seen these out there? The LGS had one with the FSB for $829.
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Why would someone want to buy one of these? Just curious when you can get one for the same price with the furniture. Is it a restricted issue? At an $800+ price tag, not worth it IMO. They drop to around $700 and that makes it much more tempting. Especially when the OEM2 doesn't have a front sight like a standard 6920. |
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Why would someone want to buy one of these? Just curious when you can get one for the same price with the furniture. Is it a restricted issue? It was Colt trying to keep from going under. Yes you can get completes for the same price, but they're last year's model. Colts aim is "you're gonna switch it out anyways" on these. To put it in different made up terms, it's like buying a full loaded 2015 Lexus for 100k or a 2016 bone stock for 100k. If that makes sense. |
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It was Colt trying to keep from going under. Yes you can get completes for the same price, but they're last year's model. Colts aim is "you're gonna switch it out anyways" on these. To put it in different made up terms, it's like buying a full loaded 2015 Lexus for 100k or a 2016 bone stock for 100k. If that makes sense. Quoted:
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Why would someone want to buy one of these? Just curious when you can get one for the same price with the furniture. Is it a restricted issue? It was Colt trying to keep from going under. Yes you can get completes for the same price, but they're last year's model. Colts aim is "you're gonna switch it out anyways" on these. To put it in different made up terms, it's like buying a full loaded 2015 Lexus for 100k or a 2016 bone stock for 100k. If that makes sense. The OEM1 is a 6920 minus the furniture. Period. The OEM2 is a 6920 minus the furniture and with a shaved gas block for a free float rail. Period. Some shops may be trying to sell the OEMs for the same price as a "complete" rifle, but they're just being fools. Most shops are selling these for about $60 less than a standard 6920. |
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I'm considering an OEM 2 and a Centurion C4 Quoted:
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Once these are fully out in the wild, I expect a $700 or less price tag. Once that happens, I'll grab an OEM2. I'm considering an OEM 2 and a Centurion C4 That or the CMR would make a bad ass rifle. |
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Not to derail the thread, but how do you like the A1 stock on your middy? Thinking about getting one. Quoted:
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Interesting Not to derail the thread, but how do you like the A1 stock on your middy? Thinking about getting one. It's been reconfigured since I stamped the lower. With that said - the mid length / rifle buffer made for a kick ass shooter. |
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The OEM1 is a 6920 minus the furniture. Period. The OEM2 is a 6920 minus the furniture and with a shaved gas block for a free float rail. Period. Some shops may be trying to sell the OEMs for the same price as a "complete" rifle, but they're just being fools. Most shops are selling these for about $60 less than a standard 6920. Quoted:
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Why would someone want to buy one of these? Just curious when you can get one for the same price with the furniture. Is it a restricted issue? It was Colt trying to keep from going under. Yes you can get completes for the same price, but they're last year's model. Colts aim is "you're gonna switch it out anyways" on these. To put it in different made up terms, it's like buying a full loaded 2015 Lexus for 100k or a 2016 bone stock for 100k. If that makes sense. The OEM1 is a 6920 minus the furniture. Period. The OEM2 is a 6920 minus the furniture and with a shaved gas block for a free float rail. Period. Some shops may be trying to sell the OEMs for the same price as a "complete" rifle, but they're just being fools. Most shops are selling these for about $60 less than a standard 6920. The discount should be more than that. My lgs quoted me "right at $860" for a 6920 with the MSR on the OEM1 as $789. So I'm hoping street price will be closer to $700. Unfortunately when I asked about them two weeks ago her source didn't have any yet. Might be time to hit her up again. |
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Would be sweet if they would sell a 14.5 pinned and welded version as well. I agree. All my guns are 16 or 20" the 14.5 pinned is the one that I've always wanted. It looks a lot better than 16" in a carbine. Amazing how much of a difference such a small amount of length makes. Same thing with the AK103K, the pinned 14.5" looks so good. Regarding the OEM guns. My Colt 6920 is my favorite AR and I'd love another. I'll just buy a Magpul edition if the price difference isn't that much. |
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The discount should be more than that. ........... Quoted:
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The OEM1 is a 6920 minus the furniture. Period. The OEM2 is a 6920 minus the furniture and with a shaved gas block for a free float rail. Period. Some shops may be trying to sell the OEMs for the same price as a "complete" rifle, but they're just being fools. Most shops are selling these for about $60 less than a standard 6920. The discount should be more than that. ........... Why? How expensive do you think the OEM plastic furniture is? People need to be realistic. Colt isn't going to drop the price $100 or more just because they didn't include about $30 worth of plastic furniture. |
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I've said this for years; Colt just doesn't get it. Quoted:
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Would be sweet if they would sell a 14.5 pinned and welded version as well. I've said this for years; Colt just doesn't get it. Forget that. 
The OEM models are technically configured as "pistols" and could be shipped that way. If Colt was paying attention to the market, they could re-brand the OEMs as pistols, and ship them with short, unpinned barrels - A 14.5" government profile model rollmarked "M4 CARBINE," a 14.5" HB profile model rollmarked "M4A1 CARBINE" (and let's actually add the caliber, this time, guys?), and a 10.3" barreled model, also rollmarked "M4A1 Carbine." The 14.5" models could come with a pre-drilled extended flash suppressor and a little pamphlet/sheet that explains that adding a stock to this rifle without first pinning the muzzle device or registering it with the NFA is a crime - and cover their asses legally. If they really wanted to help out, they could provide a set of pre-filled Form 1s with the rifle's information all filled in, and an informational pamphlet about NFA, and how to file your Form 1 legally. Will Colt ever do this? Highly doubtful. But it wouldn't be impossible if some of the head honchos rotated out and were replaced by people with a new paradigm/strategy. ~Augee |
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Why? How expensive do you think the OEM plastic furniture is? People need to be realistic. Colt isn't going to drop the price $100 or more just because they didn't include about $30 worth of plastic furniture. Quoted:
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The OEM1 is a 6920 minus the furniture. Period. The OEM2 is a 6920 minus the furniture and with a shaved gas block for a free float rail. Period. Some shops may be trying to sell the OEMs for the same price as a "complete" rifle, but they're just being fools. Most shops are selling these for about $60 less than a standard 6920. The discount should be more than that. ........... Why? How expensive do you think the OEM plastic furniture is? People need to be realistic. Colt isn't going to drop the price $100 or more just because they didn't include about $30 worth of plastic furniture. They also don't have sights which are around $50(MBUS). Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
| Colt's answer to two bankruptcies in two years is to sell an overpriced "strippo" to people who should know better? Good luck! Their management has to be Yale and Harvard grads. I keep hoping someone will buy them out and get Colt back where it belongs - manufacturing quality for a competitive price. |
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Colt's answer to two bankruptcies in two years is to sell an overpriced "strippo" to people who should know better? Good luck! Their management has to be Yale and Harvard grads. I keep hoping someone will buy them out and get Colt back where it belongs - manufacturing quality for a competitive price. So what price would make it worth it to you? |
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$200-$250 cheaper than a standard 6920, that would be nice. I don't see that happening. Quoted:
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You could sell the furniture off of a 6920 for more than that. They should be around $650. $200-$250 cheaper than a standard 6920, that would be nice. I don't see that happening. 6920s have sold for $799 recently |
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6920s have sold for $799 recently Quoted:
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You could sell the furniture off of a 6920 for more than that. They should be around $650. $200-$250 cheaper than a standard 6920, that would be nice. I don't see that happening. 6920s have sold for $799 recently Damn. Didn't know that. |
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So what price would make it worth it to you? Quoted:
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Colt's answer to two bankruptcies in two years is to sell an overpriced "strippo" to people who should know better? Good luck! Their management has to be Yale and Harvard grads. I keep hoping someone will buy them out and get Colt back where it belongs - manufacturing quality for a competitive price. So what price would make it worth it to you? A lot of people buy their AR's for sport shooting. Couldn't care less about being a commando or mercenary. If Colt would sell a line of AR's in the $650 - $ 700 range they would sell a lot of AR's to these folks. It could be done without sacrificing quality. I paid $630 for an AR that I've been shooting for a few years and not had a single issue. The quality and performance have been excellent proving it can be done. Colt is completely missing out on this level of consumer. I have two other hobbies much more expensive than this one and I enjoy them every bit as much so cannot tie up all my money in one item. A lot of folks just don't have the extra money to spend. The difference between $650 and $800 - $1200 can mean a lot to them. |
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A lot of people buy their AR's for sport shooting. Couldn't care less about being a commando or mercenary. If Colt would sell a line of AR's in the $650 - $ 700 range they would sell a lot of AR's to these folks. It could be done without sacrificing quality. I paid $630 for an AR that I've been shooting for a few years and not had a single issue. The quality and performance have been excellent proving it can be done. Colt is completely missing out on this level of consumer. ..... Colt tried something like that, going after the recreational, low end of the market. It was called the 6900. It worked out so well that the guys behind it were fired (so I heard). The quality certainly was at least sufficient for a range toy, but nobody liked that it wasn't actually manufactured by Colt with all of the Colt testing niceties. |
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Colt's answer to two bankruptcies in two years is to sell an overpriced "strippo" to people who should know better? Good luck! Their management has to be Yale and Harvard grads. I keep hoping someone will buy them out and get Colt back where it belongs - manufacturing quality for a competitive price. wtf are you talking about? they set the standard for quality and price is not bad unless youre fsa. |
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A lot of people buy their AR's for sport shooting. Couldn't care less about being a commando or mercenary. If Colt would sell a line of AR's in the $650 - $ 700 range they would sell a lot of AR's to these folks. It could be done without sacrificing quality. I paid $630 for an AR that I've been shooting for a few years and not had a single issue. The quality and performance have been excellent proving it can be done. Colt is completely missing out on this level of consumer. I have two other hobbies much more expensive than this one and I enjoy them every bit as much so cannot tie up all my money in one item. A lot of folks just don't have the extra money to spend. The difference between $650 and $800 - $1200 can mean a lot to them. Quoted:
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Colt's answer to two bankruptcies in two years is to sell an overpriced "strippo" to people who should know better? Good luck! Their management has to be Yale and Harvard grads. I keep hoping someone will buy them out and get Colt back where it belongs - manufacturing quality for a competitive price. So what price would make it worth it to you? A lot of people buy their AR's for sport shooting. Couldn't care less about being a commando or mercenary. If Colt would sell a line of AR's in the $650 - $ 700 range they would sell a lot of AR's to these folks. It could be done without sacrificing quality. I paid $630 for an AR that I've been shooting for a few years and not had a single issue. The quality and performance have been excellent proving it can be done. Colt is completely missing out on this level of consumer. I have two other hobbies much more expensive than this one and I enjoy them every bit as much so cannot tie up all my money in one item. A lot of folks just don't have the extra money to spend. The difference between $650 and $800 - $1200 can mean a lot to them. colt oem models going from $670's and up, still not good enough for you? |
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It was Colt trying to keep from going under. Yes you can get completes for the same price, but they're last year's model. Colts aim is "you're gonna switch it out anyways" on these. To put it in different made up terms, it's like buying a full loaded 2015 Lexus for 100k or a 2016 bone stock for 100k. If that makes sense. Quoted:
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Why would someone want to buy one of these? Just curious when you can get one for the same price with the furniture. Is it a restricted issue? It was Colt trying to keep from going under. Yes you can get completes for the same price, but they're last year's model. Colts aim is "you're gonna switch it out anyways" on these. To put it in different made up terms, it's like buying a full loaded 2015 Lexus for 100k or a 2016 bone stock for 100k. If that makes sense. Last years model? First time I've heard that with guns... A Colt 6920 is a Colt 6920, they don't make changes to it, no matter when it was made...still a TDP spec'd gun. ...and I've never seen anyone sell a gun as a 2014 Colt, 2015 Colt etc...  
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Last years model? First time I've heard that with guns... A Colt 6920 is a Colt 6920, they don't make changes to it, no matter when it was made...still a TDP spec'd gun. ...and I've never seen anyone sell a gun as a 2014 Colt, 2015 Colt etc... Quoted:
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Why would someone want to buy one of these? Just curious when you can get one for the same price with the furniture. Is it a restricted issue? It was Colt trying to keep from going under. Yes you can get completes for the same price, but they're last year's model. Colts aim is "you're gonna switch it out anyways" on these. To put it in different made up terms, it's like buying a full loaded 2015 Lexus for 100k or a 2016 bone stock for 100k. If that makes sense. Last years model? First time I've heard that with guns... A Colt 6920 is a Colt 6920, they don't make changes to it, no matter when it was made...still a TDP spec'd gun. ...and I've never seen anyone sell a gun as a 2014 Colt, 2015 Colt etc... The 6920 used to ship with an OEM Colt carry handle. Now they ship with a BUIS. That makes it worth less in my opinion. |
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The 6920 used to ship with an OEM Colt carry handle. Now they ship with a BUIS. That makes it worth less in my opinion. Quoted:
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Why would someone want to buy one of these? Just curious when you can get one for the same price with the furniture. Is it a restricted issue? It was Colt trying to keep from going under. Yes you can get completes for the same price, but they're last year's model. Colts aim is "you're gonna switch it out anyways" on these. To put it in different made up terms, it's like buying a full loaded 2015 Lexus for 100k or a 2016 bone stock for 100k. If that makes sense. Last years model? First time I've heard that with guns... A Colt 6920 is a Colt 6920, they don't make changes to it, no matter when it was made...still a TDP spec'd gun. ...and I've never seen anyone sell a gun as a 2014 Colt, 2015 Colt etc... The 6920 used to ship with an OEM Colt carry handle. Now they ship with a BUIS. That makes it worth less in my opinion. And 2 20 round mags instead of a PMAG30 |
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Colt's answer to two bankruptcies in two years is to sell an overpriced "strippo" to people who should know better? Good luck! Their management has to be Yale and Harvard grads. I keep hoping someone will buy them out and get Colt back where it belongs - manufacturing quality for a competitive price. I read speculation elsewhere on this site that Colt had failed to pay on a contract for furniture in 2014, as part of the signs it was circling the drain. These are probably the rifles that required that furniture. If true, then the discounted OM models are probably a one-time deal being sold because Colt couldn't pay to get the furniture delivered. Not sure if any of that is true, but given the current bankruptcy it makes some sense. |
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I read speculation elsewhere on this site that Colt had failed to pay on a contract for furniture in 2014, as part of the signs it was circling the drain. These are probably the rifles that required that furniture. If true, then the discounted OM models are probably a one-time deal being sold because Colt couldn't pay to get the furniture delivered. Not sure if any of that is true, but given the current bankruptcy it makes some sense. Quoted:
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Colt's answer to two bankruptcies in two years is to sell an overpriced "strippo" to people who should know better? Good luck! Their management has to be Yale and Harvard grads. I keep hoping someone will buy them out and get Colt back where it belongs - manufacturing quality for a competitive price. I read speculation elsewhere on this site that Colt had failed to pay on a contract for furniture in 2014, as part of the signs it was circling the drain. These are probably the rifles that required that furniture. If true, then the discounted OM models are probably a one-time deal being sold because Colt couldn't pay to get the furniture delivered. Not sure if any of that is true, but given the current bankruptcy it makes some sense. That sounds kind of stupid. How did they have the money to build or have built, the actual meaningful and I am sure more costly parts of the rifle, but couldn't pay for furniture? If it got to that point, they probably would have just stopped making rifles. Or we could not find any complete models anymore, only the OEM models. I know for a fact, dealers are still getting complete models. Not only are they complete, they have all kinds of different Magpul furniture on them. |
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Last years model? First time I've heard that with guns... A Colt 6920 is a Colt 6920, they don't make changes to it, no matter when it was made...still a TDP spec'd gun. ...and I've never seen anyone sell a gun as a 2014 Colt, 2015 Colt etc... Quoted:
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Why would someone want to buy one of these? Just curious when you can get one for the same price with the furniture. Is it a restricted issue? It was Colt trying to keep from going under. Yes you can get completes for the same price, but they're last year's model. Colts aim is "you're gonna switch it out anyways" on these. To put it in different made up terms, it's like buying a full loaded 2015 Lexus for 100k or a 2016 bone stock for 100k. If that makes sense. Last years model? First time I've heard that with guns... A Colt 6920 is a Colt 6920, they don't make changes to it, no matter when it was made...still a TDP spec'd gun. ...and I've never seen anyone sell a gun as a 2014 Colt, 2015 Colt etc... The Colt "2013 Configuration" is just one example of when Colt changed the configuration and accessories of their rifles. Remember the Rogers Super Stock? No charging handle but a cheap shit Magpul rear? No more cleaning kit? One PMAG instead of two metal magazines? Colt has routinely found ways to short change what came in the box, and up until the crunch hit, they had no intention of lowering their prices. |
[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Colt OEM models (Page 1 of 2)
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