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[ARCHIVED THREAD] - ALG ACT trigger vs milspec (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 5/6/2015 11:39:30 AM EDT
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Is this trigger worth the $65 price tag?
Would like to have some real first hand experience of this trigger. I'm on the fence on getting one for my 16" to see if it really makes a difference. |
Mine provides a consistent and smooth trigger pull free of the grittiness that is found in most standard mil-spec triggers with an audible re-set that can also be felt and is repeatable. It isn't going to be comparable to Geissele's more expensive options but for $65 bucks it's a nice trigger. My advice is to try one, if you don't like it you can always sell it here on the equipment exchange for a minimal loss. Same thing I'm planning on doing with a Geissele Super Dynamic Combat Trigger since I really want to give one a run. For reference i've been using it on the carbine below.
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Is this trigger worth the $65 price tag? Would like to have some real first hand experience of this trigger. I'm on the fence on getting one for my 16" to see if it really makes a difference. Depends on how good your barrel is. It's worth the money if you have a decent barrel. Won't help you much on a barrel that won't shoot. |
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Their QMS or whatever the 40 dollar one makes more sense.
I'd have no issues spending the money if I was building a lower from nothing, but I probably wouldn't replace a mil-spec trigger with one unless it was a REALLY shitty mil-spec trigger. I'd save a little more coin and look at Giessele options and pick one off during a sale if I were replacing a trigger. |
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Their QMS or whatever the 40 dollar one makes more sense. I'd have no issues spending the money if I was building a lower from nothing, but I probably wouldn't replace a mil-spec trigger with one unless it was a REALLY shitty mil-spec trigger. I'd save a little more coin and look at Giessele options and pick one off during a sale if I were replacing a trigger. I've had up to 5 of the $65 ones. They felt very close to the milspec one, Better than the DPMS and PSA ones. Nice reminder I need to sell another one. |
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The QMS is worth the upgrade over a mil spec trigger - depending on which one you get from your 'luck of the draw' LPK. If you have a gritty trigger from your LPK the QMS will be an upgrade.
The ACT trigger, like any other NiB or otherwise coated trigger, is not worth the money. It feels the same as a polished stock trigger - ala the QMS. If you want a real tangible upgrade to the stock trigger buy a Geissele G2S or better, or a CMC trigger. |
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I have a handful of milspec, a Larue MBT, a RRA match 2 stage, and a ALG ACT (just to give you perspective on what I've used a lot)
The ACT is much better than most mil spec that I've used, but I do have one milspec that is nearly indistinguishable from the ACT from a performance perspective. Shooting those two side by side I would not be able to tell the difference unless I looked at them (my brothers in law and I have compared them side by side since I was amazed at how good that mil spec trigger was). So I think the answer is that it's better than an average mil spec, probably much better than the worst mil spec, and not much different from a top notch mil spec (though I have no idea how rare those are). |
| Personally, I like the ALG ACT. When I bought my BCM Jack Carbine, it came with one. I liked it so much that my next AR build received one. The ACT is a mil-spec trigger with the addition of special coatings. The trigger is Nickel Boron coated, while the disconnect and hammer are Nickel Teflon coated. They make for very slick and smooth surfaces and this results in a very smooth trigger. |
| I have had a couple and worth every penny, two were gtg out the package and one that was not was still fantastic. Some say just break in a milspec but really the act is even better broken in also. It is still a milspec pull but a little more smooth and crisp and just as reliable also some grease helps any trigger. |
| Equal to the ALG is the Spikes Battle Trigger. It's amm NiB coated, and with a touch of grease it's butter smooth. Timney it's not, but for 1/4 the price it's an improvement over the milspec, while retaining the simplicity of the milspec design. I have several, and manage .75moa in my most accurate rifle. Does what I need it to and leaves me more $$$ for booooleeets. |
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Quoted: is there a link for the Armalite trigger? Quoted: Quoted: For $10 less than a ACT, you can get a good two-stage trigger from Armalite. It may not be an SSA, but it is a nice trigger. I'm seeing two at Armalite. The tactical model is ~$100 and the National Match is about $145. http://www.armalite.com/itemform.aspx?item=10309000 http://www.armalite.com/ItemForm.aspx?item=10309050 |
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The QMS is worth the upgrade over a mil spec trigger - depending on which one you get from your 'luck of the draw' LPK. If you have a gritty trigger from your LPK the QMS will be an upgrade. The ACT trigger, like any other NiB or otherwise coated trigger, is not worth the money. It feels the same as a polished stock trigger - ala the QMS. If you want a real tangible upgrade to the stock trigger buy a Geissele G2S or better, or a CMC trigger. QFT^^^. I have a PSA stock trigger that is comparable to the ALG QMS trigger. The ALG QMS has a little less take up than the PSA trigger but it isn't worth spending even $45 to go to a QMS. My Daniel Defense Lower on the other hand.... it came with a horrendous stock trigger. It was gritty with a huge amount of take up and an unpredictable break and crap reset... top it all off with about an 8lb pull weight. I did buy an ALG QMS w/ JP yellow springs for this lower and it was a bargain price for a very tangible upgrade. As Mattyvac stated , the ACT trigger doesn't fee any different than the QMS... at least I or a couple of buddies couldn't tell which was which by feel. QMS for $45 and some JP springs for $8 is a good upgrade if you have a shitty Mil-spec trigger ... anything else over that just save up and buy a CMT 3.5lb single stage ( great trigger) or one of the assorted offerings from Giessele ( I personally really like the SSA-E) |
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I'm seeing two at Armalite. The tactical model is ~$100 and the National Match is about $145. http://www.armalite.com/itemform.aspx?item=10309000 http://www.armalite.com/ItemForm.aspx?item=10309050 Quoted:
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For $10 less than a ACT, you can get a good two-stage trigger from Armalite. It may not be an SSA, but it is a nice trigger. I'm seeing two at Armalite. The tactical model is ~$100 and the National Match is about $145. http://www.armalite.com/itemform.aspx?item=10309000 http://www.armalite.com/ItemForm.aspx?item=10309050 The $57 trigger is their 7.62 x 39 AR trigger. Same operation and quality as the Tactical 2-Stage Trigger, but it has a slightly heavier hammer. It does not affect operation with 5.56 or .308 Win. http://www.armalite.com/ItemForm.aspx?item=10309200&ReturnUrl=categories2.aspx?Category=dfc0f777-5c39-4edf-bb6b-90009c5adc2c Best deal out there for 2-stage triggers.... |
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QFT^^^. I have a PSA stock trigger that is comparable to the ALG QMS trigger. The ALG QMS has a little less take up than the PSA trigger but it isn't worth spending even $45 to go to a QMS. My Daniel Defense Lower on the other hand.... it came with a horrendous stock trigger. It was gritty with a huge amount of take up and an unpredictable break and crap reset... top it all off with about an 8lb pull weight. I did buy an ALG QMS w/ JP yellow springs for this lower and it was a bargain price for a very tangible upgrade. As Mattyvac stated , the ACT trigger doesn't fee any different than the QMS... at least I or a couple of buddies couldn't tell which was which by feel. QMS for $45 and some JP springs for $8 is a good upgrade if you have a shitty Mil-spec trigger ... anything else over that just save up and buy a CMT 3.5lb single stage ( great trigger) or one of the assorted offerings from Giessele ( I personally really like the SSA-E) Quoted:
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The QMS is worth the upgrade over a mil spec trigger - depending on which one you get from your 'luck of the draw' LPK. If you have a gritty trigger from your LPK the QMS will be an upgrade. The ACT trigger, like any other NiB or otherwise coated trigger, is not worth the money. It feels the same as a polished stock trigger - ala the QMS. If you want a real tangible upgrade to the stock trigger buy a Geissele G2S or better, or a CMC trigger. QFT^^^. I have a PSA stock trigger that is comparable to the ALG QMS trigger. The ALG QMS has a little less take up than the PSA trigger but it isn't worth spending even $45 to go to a QMS. My Daniel Defense Lower on the other hand.... it came with a horrendous stock trigger. It was gritty with a huge amount of take up and an unpredictable break and crap reset... top it all off with about an 8lb pull weight. I did buy an ALG QMS w/ JP yellow springs for this lower and it was a bargain price for a very tangible upgrade. As Mattyvac stated , the ACT trigger doesn't fee any different than the QMS... at least I or a couple of buddies couldn't tell which was which by feel. QMS for $45 and some JP springs for $8 is a good upgrade if you have a shitty Mil-spec trigger ... anything else over that just save up and buy a CMT 3.5lb single stage ( great trigger) or one of the assorted offerings from Giessele ( I personally really like the SSA-E) I use Armalite NM, CMC single stage, POF drop-ins, CMMG LPKs, mil-spec, and gun show parts. I have also installed a lot of the CMMG kits at the shop. The CMMGs are typically really nice for a mil-spec. The takeup is very smooth and the break is very crisp. At least it has been on the dozens I have installed into our inventory. I prefer the CMCs, followed by Armalite NM, POF, then the CMMG in that order. We also sell most of the Geissele models. They are good triggers. I just don't like the way the feel to me. Some pistols don't fit my hand just like some triggers don't feel good to me. I would bet 90% of shooters, in a blind fold test, probably could not identify the trigger they are shooting beyond mil-spec/non mil-spec, one stage/two stage. Try out the ones you want and shoot what feels good. Buying only on the basis of the name on the box is a fools errand. ymmv |
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I've seen the ACT described as a mil spec trigger that does not suck.
Pretty accurate. I have an ACT with the yellow JP spring set ($10)...not bad. Got it for free essentially, with a PSA LPK on sale. Buying outright, I'd get the QMS. BTW, Armalite shipping on small parts is punishing. They need to modernize their antiquated website and provide reasonable shipping costs for small parts orders. I won't hold my breath. |
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I use Armalite NM, CMC single stage, POF drop-ins, CMMG LPKs, mil-spec, and gun show parts. I have also installed a lot of the CMMG kits at the shop. The CMMGs are typically really nice for a mil-spec. The takeup is very smooth and the break is very crisp. At least it has been on the dozens I have installed into our inventory. I prefer the CMCs, followed by Armalite NM, POF, then the CMMG in that order. We also sell most of the Geissele models. They are good triggers. I just don't like the way the feel to me. Some pistols don't fit my hand just like some triggers don't feel good to me. I would bet 90% of shooters, in a blind fold test, probably could not identify the trigger they are shooting beyond mil-spec/non mil-spec, one stage/two stage. Try out the ones you want and shoot what feels good. Buying only on the basis of the name on the box is a fools errand. ymmv Quoted:
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The QMS is worth the upgrade over a mil spec trigger - depending on which one you get from your 'luck of the draw' LPK. If you have a gritty trigger from your LPK the QMS will be an upgrade. The ACT trigger, like any other NiB or otherwise coated trigger, is not worth the money. It feels the same as a polished stock trigger - ala the QMS. If you want a real tangible upgrade to the stock trigger buy a Geissele G2S or better, or a CMC trigger. QFT^^^. I have a PSA stock trigger that is comparable to the ALG QMS trigger. The ALG QMS has a little less take up than the PSA trigger but it isn't worth spending even $45 to go to a QMS. My Daniel Defense Lower on the other hand.... it came with a horrendous stock trigger. It was gritty with a huge amount of take up and an unpredictable break and crap reset... top it all off with about an 8lb pull weight. I did buy an ALG QMS w/ JP yellow springs for this lower and it was a bargain price for a very tangible upgrade. As Mattyvac stated , the ACT trigger doesn't fee any different than the QMS... at least I or a couple of buddies couldn't tell which was which by feel. QMS for $45 and some JP springs for $8 is a good upgrade if you have a shitty Mil-spec trigger ... anything else over that just save up and buy a CMT 3.5lb single stage ( great trigger) or one of the assorted offerings from Giessele ( I personally really like the SSA-E) I use Armalite NM, CMC single stage, POF drop-ins, CMMG LPKs, mil-spec, and gun show parts. I have also installed a lot of the CMMG kits at the shop. The CMMGs are typically really nice for a mil-spec. The takeup is very smooth and the break is very crisp. At least it has been on the dozens I have installed into our inventory. I prefer the CMCs, followed by Armalite NM, POF, then the CMMG in that order. We also sell most of the Geissele models. They are good triggers. I just don't like the way the feel to me. Some pistols don't fit my hand just like some triggers don't feel good to me. I would bet 90% of shooters, in a blind fold test, probably could not identify the trigger they are shooting beyond mil-spec/non mil-spec, one stage/two stage. Try out the ones you want and shoot what feels good. Buying only on the basis of the name on the box is a fools errand. ymmv I can tell the difference between my CMC and QMS w/JP springs no problem and they are single stage. The CMC is just way shorter on travel and quicker on the reset, crisper on the break, lighter on the pull. I can tell the difference between my buddies G2S and my SSA-E, not so much on the first stage pull but the second stage pull to the break is lighter and shorter and breaks cleaner. Sometimes the differences are very pronounced I suppose it isnt so pronounced on top shelf triggers but going from basic mil-spec to tuned and finished milspec with lighter springs is a big jump in performance, so is going from tuned polished milspec to top grade stuff like CMC and Giessele |
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I can tell the difference between my CMC and QMS w/JP springs no problem and they are single stage. The CMC is just way shorter on travel and quicker on the reset, crisper on the break, lighter on the pull. I can tell the difference between my buddies G2S and my SSA-E, not so much on the first stage pull but the second stage pull to the break is lighter and shorter and breaks cleaner. Sometimes the differences are very pronounced I suppose it isnt so pronounced on top shelf triggers but going from basic mil-spec to tuned and finished milspec with lighter springs is a big jump in performance, so is going from tuned polished milspec to top grade stuff like CMC and Giessele Quoted:
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The QMS is worth the upgrade over a mil spec trigger - depending on which one you get from your 'luck of the draw' LPK. If you have a gritty trigger from your LPK the QMS will be an upgrade. The ACT trigger, like any other NiB or otherwise coated trigger, is not worth the money. It feels the same as a polished stock trigger - ala the QMS. If you want a real tangible upgrade to the stock trigger buy a Geissele G2S or better, or a CMC trigger. QFT^^^. I have a PSA stock trigger that is comparable to the ALG QMS trigger. The ALG QMS has a little less take up than the PSA trigger but it isn't worth spending even $45 to go to a QMS. My Daniel Defense Lower on the other hand.... it came with a horrendous stock trigger. It was gritty with a huge amount of take up and an unpredictable break and crap reset... top it all off with about an 8lb pull weight. I did buy an ALG QMS w/ JP yellow springs for this lower and it was a bargain price for a very tangible upgrade. As Mattyvac stated , the ACT trigger doesn't fee any different than the QMS... at least I or a couple of buddies couldn't tell which was which by feel. QMS for $45 and some JP springs for $8 is a good upgrade if you have a shitty Mil-spec trigger ... anything else over that just save up and buy a CMT 3.5lb single stage ( great trigger) or one of the assorted offerings from Giessele ( I personally really like the SSA-E) I use Armalite NM, CMC single stage, POF drop-ins, CMMG LPKs, mil-spec, and gun show parts. I have also installed a lot of the CMMG kits at the shop. The CMMGs are typically really nice for a mil-spec. The takeup is very smooth and the break is very crisp. At least it has been on the dozens I have installed into our inventory. I prefer the CMCs, followed by Armalite NM, POF, then the CMMG in that order. We also sell most of the Geissele models. They are good triggers. I just don't like the way the feel to me. Some pistols don't fit my hand just like some triggers don't feel good to me. I would bet 90% of shooters, in a blind fold test, probably could not identify the trigger they are shooting beyond mil-spec/non mil-spec, one stage/two stage. Try out the ones you want and shoot what feels good. Buying only on the basis of the name on the box is a fools errand. ymmv I can tell the difference between my CMC and QMS w/JP springs no problem and they are single stage. The CMC is just way shorter on travel and quicker on the reset, crisper on the break, lighter on the pull. I can tell the difference between my buddies G2S and my SSA-E, not so much on the first stage pull but the second stage pull to the break is lighter and shorter and breaks cleaner. Sometimes the differences are very pronounced I suppose it isnt so pronounced on top shelf triggers but going from basic mil-spec to tuned and finished milspec with lighter springs is a big jump in performance, so is going from tuned polished milspec to top grade stuff like CMC and Giessele Good on ya, it is obvious that you actually have the trigger time to be able to discern the difference between quality triggers and lesser products. Based on my observations over the years I would count you in the minority of shooters. Keep up the good habits. 
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I have ACTs in both of my SBRs. They are substantially smoother, crisper and thus "lighter feeling" than stock AR triggers, They're better even than my well used stock triggers.
The ACT is no replacement for a quality two-stage trigger, but it fits a different need. It really is a "stock trigger that doesn't suck." I've installed bunches of stock triggers that didn't completely suck from the start. I clean the shipping oil off of the parts, then degrease them and thoroughly lube them. There are two important things to remember with any trigger. First. parts don't ship with gun oil, they ship with some sort of anti-corrosion gunk, and it's critical to get rid of that stuff before you try using the parts. Second, put a tiny bit of light grease in the trigger and hammer pin bores before installation - it works wonders. When you read the instructions with any Geissele or ALG trigger, they both stress cleaning the FCG pocket (and imply cleaning the trigger parts), and they both call for putting a dab of grease in those trigger and hammer pin bores. (Yes, that's where I got that from. )
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My ACT and QMS are better than any other standard trigger I've used.
The QMS is clean, much better than any generic LPK trigger I've used. But my ACT has a more crisp break. Best standard trigger I've used for sure. So from what Ive used my best to worst standard trigger list is as follows. 1-ACT 2-QMS 3 -Generic Of course an actual Geissele smokes em all tho. |
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I have an ACT with JP yellow springs in a 9mm. It was really, really good for 4-500 rounds. Over the last several hundred rounds it has developed a fair amount of smooth creep before a difficult to predict break. Not really ideal for precision shooting. If I had it to do over I would get the QMS, or better yet, save up for the real deal G2s.
That is part of the problem. I shoot mostly with an SSA, so by comparison the ACT is just a less sucky stock trigger. |
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I have the ACT trigger in my piston rifle. I can state unequivocally that it is worth the $65. The break is clean and crisp and it has an excellent reset. it is much better than the triggers that come with lower parts kits and it's tuned by Geissele. Basically, I figure it's the best $65 upgrade you can do to an AR.
Another thing you can do though that is less expensive is get a JP Industries spring kit. That with some polishing of the fire control parts will give you a smooth, crisp trigger with a 4-4½ pound pull weight and with some work on the trigger parts you can reduce that to around 3½ lbs. The spring kits cost $11 (plus some postage of course). If you are comfortable working on the fire control components, this is the way to go. |
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Maybe I got a great milspec trigger, but I feel no grittiness, or anything,., great clean break... I'm basing this off of only shooting milspec triggers. For now I don't feel the necessity on spending the $$$ for a new trigger... Thanks all for their input. How much pre travel? Where I've see the most difference is in how far they move before they break. The good ones barely move before they break crisply. Only one was gritty. Pull weight and travel are the biggest difference. Pull weight is driven primarily by the springs and the slope of the mating surfaces. If you pull the trigger and the hammer moves back substantially, that will add pull weight. You don't want it to move forward as it could creep on it's own and drop the hammer (a common problem with the SKS). I will admit I don't pay much attention to extra travel or reset...they don't really impact my style of shooting. |
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If anybody wants to live on the edge... try the QMS with a trigger adjuster screw from joebobs. You can eliminate pretravel by about 60% before safety interference. Then it starts becoming a great trigger. In the duty rifle or 12.5? 
Considering it. No malfunctions from it yet? |
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Quoted: The $57 trigger is their 7.62 x 39 AR trigger. Same operation and quality as the Tactical 2-Stage Trigger, but it has a slightly heavier hammer. It does not affect operation with 5.56 or .308 Win. http://www.armalite.com/ItemForm.aspx?item=10309200&ReturnUrl=categories2.aspx?Category=dfc0f777-5c39-4edf-bb6b-90009c5adc2c Best deal out there for 2-stage triggers.... Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: For $10 less than a ACT, you can get a good two-stage trigger from Armalite. It may not be an SSA, but it is a nice trigger. I'm seeing two at Armalite. The tactical model is ~$100 and the National Match is about $145. http://www.armalite.com/itemform.aspx?item=10309000 http://www.armalite.com/ItemForm.aspx?item=10309050 The $57 trigger is their 7.62 x 39 AR trigger. Same operation and quality as the Tactical 2-Stage Trigger, but it has a slightly heavier hammer. It does not affect operation with 5.56 or .308 Win. http://www.armalite.com/ItemForm.aspx?item=10309200&ReturnUrl=categories2.aspx?Category=dfc0f777-5c39-4edf-bb6b-90009c5adc2c Best deal out there for 2-stage triggers.... |
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Barely any pre travel. Feels like the wall,is right there. Not sure of the pull weight. I don't have the tools to measure. Maybe this is where the ACT trigger will beat my milspec trigger.... Or I can just get the JP springs..... If you have a good milspec trigger, then you will not likely notice a difference. The ALG is great for a new build or replacement of a crappy trigger group i have one where is was a huge upgrade and a M&P trigger that I probably wouldnt notice if someone swapped them. If it ain't broke... |
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I have an ACT and three different mil-spec triggers, all of which feel different. I'll install the ACT in one of my spare lowers today and let you know what I think. Never shot with anything other than a mil-spec.
ETA: Review OK, take this with a grain of salt as I've only been into ARs for about a year and haven't put many rounds through my rifles. I have three mil-spec triggers from CMMG, Spikes, and BCM. I installed the ACT in my BCM lower just now, replacing the BCM mil-spec trigger. All of these "tests" were dry fires. vs BCM (1500rds): BCM had a lot of gritty creep but a light and short break which I liked. The ACT has an almost imperceptible creep and a nice crisp, short break but interestingly feels heavier than any of the other three. That could be the fact that it's brand new. vs Spikes (450rds): The Spikes has slightly more initial creep and a "longer" break, if that makes any sense. The trigger moves more in the time between initial break and stopping at the limits of its travel making it harder to get a smooth press without moving the sights. vs CMMG (850rds): There was the least difference with the CMMG, which had an ACT-like creep and break, thought very slightly mushier. I was a little surprised at this, and swapped lowers several times to verify. If the ACT lightens up a little with wear (and maybe more oil/grease) I'll like it quite a bit with it's sharp, short break. Consistency in quality is nice, however you may be able to get the same end results with a mil-spec trigger like CMMG. But you may have to buy several to find one that you like. Is it worth $65 to be sure what you're getting? Only you can decide. TL;DR: Not sure I'd pick the ACT over the CMMG I have. Given the variability of mil-spec triggers, it may be worthwhile to pay more for the assurance of consistency, but probably not $65. I'd look into the QMS if I were you and didn't want to go all the way on Geiselle et al. |
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I have an ACT. I consider it a decent value. The ACT is just the QMS with a coating. It's supposed to eliminate or reduce the need for lube. If I were doing it over, I'd probably save the $20 and get a QMS.
I guesstimate my ACT's pull weight at 6 lbs. Specifications require it to be at least 5.5. lbs. To me, any 5.5 to 6 lb trigger is heavy. My ACT has a slight amount of creep, leading to a clean break. The trigger is predictable and consistent. It is not gritty. I consider a trigger with this weight and feel to be minimally acceptable for a rifle in the price range of an AR. I do not understand spending $600+ on a rifle and not spending $50-70 extra to be assured of a decent trigger. The last time I looked, White Oak Armament was selling lower parts kits with ACT triggers at very nice prices. My recollection was that a QMS represented about a $40 upcharge over a standard parts kit with a milspec trigger. |
| I have the ACT in three AR15's and a large frame .308. All started out with mil spec CMMG triggers. Been very happy with all four so far. Have three more AR15 lowers I need to assemble into rifles. For one of them, I'd like to try the Hipertouch EDT. And see how well the trigger perform's. Before I decide what to do with the other two. |
| I have an ALG ACT in the Spile's lower I built. I like it. It have virtually no creep and breaks clean with no grit. I can't say the same for the mil-spec trigger that's in my Windham. Not that the mil-spec that's in my Windham is a bad trigger I just enjoy shooting the rifle with the ACT more because it just seems better. |
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I've had SSAs on my last two ARs and loved them.
However, I'm trying to save money and am considering the ACT for the next build. The bad news is, I think I'm spoiled. The good news is, 95% of my shooting is inside 100Y, so really how much improvement do I get from this beautiful carrot-like break and short 4.25lb pull?? |
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I have two ACTs and one QMS.
The QMS came in a well-configured complete lower form Rainier. They didn't skimp on anything with that lower and I love every part added. Why did they use the QMS? Most tangible gains, pretty sure. There isn't a terrible amount of improvement going to an ACT from a QMS. I'm happy with either, but will probably only be buying QMS's in the future for anything put precision setups. As for your question, a stock M4 trigger (mil spec)... I once held my M4 out by the trigger and it did not fire. KAC RAS, PEC15, CCO, surefire, sling, etc; so not light. They NEED to lighten that bitch up. |
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I've had SSAs on my last two ARs and loved them. However, I'm trying to save money and am considering the ACT for the next build. The bad news is, I think I'm spoiled. The good news is, 95% of my shooting is inside 100Y, so really how much improvement do I get from this beautiful carrot-like break and short 4.25lb pull?? SSAs are two-stage triggers, and there is a very different feel to them than a one-stage trigger gives you. The ACT and QMS feel like REALLY good single stage, "standard" triggers. If you have "not so good" experience with out-of-the-box performance with stock triggers, the ACT will feel great. As an added plus, its pull is at least 5.5 pounds, so it's a good choice for defense/run and gun/etc. as compared to the 4.5 pound SSA (or the 3.5ish pound SSA-E I have). |
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