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lamer01

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Posted: 9/25/2017 7:52:58 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By Andromax:

If im not mistaken the sporter and the monte carlo have the same length of pull, the youth is shorter. The monte carlo is already pretty short compared full sized rifle stocks.

Im not firearm instructers, but i can say there are nuances in rifle handling that will change your perspective of the interface.

Its tough (for me) to describe this stuff.

Hows your stance? How are you seating the buttstock? Are you bringing the sight picture to the level of your eye or are you dropping your eye to the sight plane?

Watch youtube videos of skilled shooters and how they wield their rifle. Makes a huge difference.

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Thx, I watched the videos after you posted about it. I followed the technique and it felt great but after pocketing the stock in my shoulder and looking through the scope I still have to lean in to get a good eye relief sight picture. The Burris AR 332 has a 2.5 inch eye relief. Putting my cheek on the stock I don't get a good picture. Maybe a different base that would let the scope extend further back then the charging handle would be beneficial.

SCR556 Joined May 2017 Posts 21 EE 0% (0) OK, USA	Posted: 9/27/2017 12:27:20 AM EDT [#2] I use ETS mags - I have not run into issues with them.

That1GuyHenry Joined Jul 2014 Posts 39 EE 100% (2) AZ, USA	Posted: 9/28/2017 12:26:50 PM EDT [#3] Has anyone built an scr into a 300 blackout? Is it possible?

Andromax Member Joined Jul 2002 Posts 816 EE 100% (23) AK, USA	Posted: 9/28/2017 2:18:25 PM EDT [#4] Quote History Originally Posted By That1GuyHenry: Has anyone built an scr into a 300 blackout? Is it possible? View Quote You haven't read much of this thread have You? I love my SCR 300 BLK.

lamer01

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Posted: 9/30/2017 7:31:06 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By MatthewVanitas:
Okay, I see how the BHO works now. It's not as bad as I though, since there's an actual slot with a plug that can be removed to install the BHO. I'd imagined it was more improvised and jammed in there. But I do agree that some kind of mechanism, other than adhesive, to make it stay in its slot would be helpful:

http://i61.tinypic.com/2vhzoeh.jpg

http://i61.tinypic.com/16tcuv.jpg

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I installed the BHO in mine last week. It goes in so tight and the forces would be front to back so it will probably NEVER move.

Andromax Member Joined Jul 2002 Posts 819 EE 100% (23) AK, USA	Posted: 10/1/2017 9:12:44 AM EDT [#6] Quote History Originally Posted By lamer01: I installed the BHO in mine last week. It goes in so tight and the forces would be front to back so it will probably NEVER move. View Quote Lucky you, mine falls right out.

lamer01 Joined Dec 2016 Posts 21 EE 0% (0) CT, USA	Posted: 10/7/2017 7:27:06 PM EDT [#7] Quote History Originally Posted By Andromax: Lucky you, mine falls right out. View Quote Is your BHO from FightLite? I mean it's so tight that you need to tap it in.

Andromax Member Joined Jul 2002 Posts 825 EE 100% (23) AK, USA	Posted: 10/8/2017 4:32:50 AM EDT [#8] Quote History Originally Posted By lamer01: Is your BHO from FightLite? I mean it's so tight that you need to tap it in. View Quote Yea, it fits okay, just loose enough to not stay in when the receivers are open. I will probably add a dab of superglue. Hasn't been a big issue to me.

SCR556 Joined May 2017 Posts 22 EE 0% (0) OK, USA	Posted: 10/8/2017 11:23:39 PM EDT [#9] Mine drops right in - no effort needed.

CarpNY Member Joined Jul 2014 Posts 793 EE 100% (6) NY, USA	Posted: 10/16/2017 8:17:18 PM EDT [#10] Saw this in the Odd AR-15 thread: http://soldiersystems.net/2017/10/15/fightlite-industries-scr-pistol/#comments

backbencher Managing Member of Mischief Joined Nov 2005 Posts 27282 EE 100% (2) TX, USA	Posted: 10/16/2017 9:49:37 PM EDT [#11] That's pretty cool. But will it work? Throw an ARAK upper on there and now you have convergence of 3 platforms...
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RDTCU Member Joined Oct 2008 Posts 36004 EE 100% (29) SC, USA	Posted: 10/16/2017 10:00:49 PM EDT [#12] Quote History Originally Posted By backbencher: That's pretty cool. But will it work? Throw an ARAK upper on there and now you have convergence of 3 platforms... View Quote if there's enough stock tube, i don't see why it wouldn't.

SiVisPacem Give someone an inch, they'll take a mile. Joined Apr 2010 Posts 14904 EE 100% (329) NF, CAN	Posted: 10/16/2017 10:01:47 PM EDT [#13] Fightlite Industries Raider Available in 5.56 and .300 BLK. MSRP of $865.
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backbencher Managing Member of Mischief Joined Nov 2005 Posts 27284 EE 100% (2) TX, USA	Posted: 10/16/2017 10:12:40 PM EDT [#14] Pretty clever. They ran the recoil spring tube down the grip. I'd say they're selling a product for a reasonable price. Kudos.
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SiVisPacem Give someone an inch, they'll take a mile. Joined Apr 2010 Posts 14905 EE 100% (329) NF, CAN	Posted: 10/16/2017 10:32:06 PM EDT [#15] It would be really cool if they released lowers with the Shockwave Raptor grips pre-installed.
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ThatNiceBlkGuy Joined Oct 2013 Posts 208 EE 0% (0) FL, USA	Posted: 10/21/2017 6:17:53 AM EDT [#16] If one was to build an scr would standard sights be impossible to use if they are just used as back ups for a scope?

Hanz What are you prepared to do? Joined Oct 2001 Posts 3514 EE 100% (13) NY, USA	Posted: 10/21/2017 7:22:33 PM EDT [#17] Quote History Originally Posted By ThatNiceBlkGuy: If one was to build an scr would standard sights be impossible to use if they are just used as back ups for a scope? View Quote Standard height AR sights? They would work but you would have to employ a chin weld to use them.
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Lhotse Cautiously optimistic Joined Apr 2009 Posts 1063 EE 100% (2) CO, USA	Posted: 10/24/2017 3:01:30 PM EDT [#18] Anybody know how to mount a sling on this rifle? I thought I saw a post that described installing a push button qd mount in the stock, but can't find it. My hunting trip is coming up and I need to get field ready!

Hanz What are you prepared to do? Joined Oct 2001 Posts 3517 EE 100% (13) NY, USA	Posted: 10/24/2017 11:25:57 PM EDT [#19] I used the Noveske Flush mount. Sorry for the crappy photos, you can get the idea of what's going on. Untitled by Doug Hansen, on Flickr Untitled by Doug Hansen, on Flickr Untitled by Doug Hansen, on Flickr Untitled by Doug Hansen, on Flickr Untitled by Doug Hansen, on Flickr
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E-Mag Member Joined Nov 2008 Posts 18419 EE 100% (4) ND, USA	Posted: 10/24/2017 11:40:40 PM EDT [Last Edit: E-Mag] [#20] Quote History Originally Posted By SiVisPacem: It would be really cool if they released lowers with the Shockwave Raptor grips pre-installed. View Quote Edit oops you want just the lower and grip
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Posted: 10/25/2017 11:23:44 AM EDT

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Originally Posted By Hanz:
I used the Noveske Flush mount. Sorry for the crappy photos, you can get the idea of what's going on.

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5539/29718387874_9856185864_b.jpg Untitled by Doug Hansen, on Flickr

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5531/30262489231_949c016ebe_b.jpg Untitled by Doug Hansen, on Flickr

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8555/30052639630_620c4ff68a_b.jpg Untitled by Doug Hansen, on Flickr

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5721/30349777885_0a0be27cbd_b.jpg Untitled by Doug Hansen, on Flickr

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5798/30052946260_a5faf5db05_b.jpg Untitled by Doug Hansen, on Flickr

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That looks awesome. Thanks for the help!

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Posted: 10/28/2017 7:24:41 AM EDT

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Here’s some video action of our new FightLite Raider pistol to answer some questions about it and to go along with the SCR thread. To our fans of this pistol, you’re on the right track and to the haters, you’ll only be a hater until you shoot one!

Available in 5.56 NATO and 300 BLK, orders are stacking and shipments projected to begin first of November. Dealers with distributor accounts can order directly through Ellett Brothers, AMCHAR Wholesale, Chattanooga Shooting Supplies, Brownells and others. If no account with Distributors, you can order direct and ship to your favorite FFL. Thanks!

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieUFc6eU558

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coldblue Team Member Joined Jan 2002 Posts 2001 EE 100% (3) FL, USA	Posted: 10/28/2017 8:10:28 AM EDT [#23] ...that lack of recoil and muzzle rise is absolutely amazing...how dey do dat...?
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Posted: 10/28/2017 8:42:55 AM EDT

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Originally Posted By coldblue:
...that lack of recoil and muzzle rise is absolutely amazing...how dey do dat...?

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C’mon Dave, partly with our new RipBrake of course!

The pistol in the video is equipped with our “Cali Comp” version of the RipBrake, which is the one on the right of the lower picture. Basically our standard RipBrake but without the flash hider tines to comply with California restrictions

on flash hiders.

We manufacture both versions in 5.56 with 1/2x28 threads and for .300 with 5/8x24 threads.

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AR15DELTAHBAR Joined Aug 2008 Posts 206 EE 100% (1) NY, USA	Posted: 10/28/2017 8:58:35 AM EDT [#25] Any chance of the grip being sold separately to be used for the scr rifle? I assume that would still be legal?

RDTCU Member Joined Oct 2008 Posts 36158 EE 100% (29) SC, USA	Posted: 10/28/2017 10:04:37 AM EDT [#26] I just want a regular SCR lower that doesn't cost as much as a whole AR But I'd also take a Raider lower that I could put a side charging upper on so using the charging handle isn't awkward.

Andromax Member Joined Jul 2002 Posts 843 EE 100% (23) AK, USA	Posted: 10/28/2017 5:35:28 PM EDT [Last Edit: Andromax] [#27] Quote History Originally Posted By AR15DELTAHBAR: Any chance of the grip being sold separately to be used for the scr rifle? I assume that would still be legal? View Quote Since its a rifle, OAL <26" is an SBR if I'm not mistaken. NFA and all...

SiVisPacem

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Posted: 10/28/2017 5:47:45 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By Andromax:
Since its a rifle, OAL <26" is an SBR if I'm not mistaken. NFA and all...

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Originally Posted By AR15DELTAHBAR:
Any chance of the grip being sold separately to be used for the scr rifle? I assume that would still be legal?

Since its a rifle, OAL <26" is an SBR if I'm not mistaken. NFA and all...

Unless you use it on a stripped SCR lower which had not previously been built into a rifle.

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Andromax Member Joined Jul 2002 Posts 844 EE 100% (23) AK, USA	Posted: 10/29/2017 4:13:03 AM EDT [#29] Quote History Originally Posted By SiVisPacem: Unless you use it on a stripped SCR lower which had not previously been built into a rifle. View Quote Hence the "since it's a rifle" qualifier. Would be surprised if they ever sold stripped SCR lowers since the parts are all proprietary.

AR15DELTAHBAR Joined Aug 2008 Posts 207 EE 100% (1) NY, USA	Posted: 10/29/2017 5:11:24 AM EDT [#30] Quote History Originally Posted By Andromax: Since its a rifle, OAL <26" is an SBR if I'm not mistaken. NFA and all... View Quote With a 16 inch, non threaded upper, I believe it measures over 26"

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Posted: 10/29/2017 9:44:02 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By CarpNY:
Saw this in the Odd AR-15 thread:

http://soldiersystems.net/blog1/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/img_4834.jpg

http://soldiersystems.net/2017/10/15/fightlite-industries-scr-pistol/#comments

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I would only buy one of thesein 300 blackout if it had a side charging upper. ASA style as to keep the brass deflector and dust cover.

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Posted: 10/30/2017 11:30:54 AM EDT

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Originally Posted By Andromax:
Hence the "since it's a rifle" qualifier.

Would be surprised if they ever sold stripped SCR lowers since the parts are all proprietary.

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Originally Posted By Andromax:

Originally Posted By SiVisPacem:

Unless you use it on a stripped SCR lower which had not previously been built into a rifle.

Hence the "since it's a rifle" qualifier.

Would be surprised if they ever sold stripped SCR lowers since the parts are all proprietary.

You can buy SCR lowers from Brownell's for $605. Yes, they have stocks attached, but that's irrelevant, as BATFE says without a barrel, they aren't rifles.

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Posted: 10/30/2017 11:38:48 AM EDT

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Originally Posted By SiVisPacem: You can buy SCR lowers from Brownell's for $605. Yes, they have stocks attached, but that's irrelevant, as BATFE says without a barrel, they aren't rifles.

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Possibly a better deal to just buy the pistol then, sell the upper minus the bolt carrier, and then build whatever you want w/ it, albeit I don't know if the Turkish .410 shotgun uppers will work or not, and no blowback upper will except the .22" LR. CMMG Guard .45" won't work either due to the proprietary bolt carrier.

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tnertb Durrrrrr Joined Sep 2015 Posts 636 EE 100% (11) USA	Posted: 11/2/2017 1:50:32 AM EDT [Last Edit: tnertb] [#34] I thought I saw in one of their Instagram posts that they would sell the pistol lower alone. If so I'd love that. @FightLite edit on their page now for $575 Raider

JethrOO Member Joined Feb 2001 Posts 329 EE 100% (85) VA, USA	Posted: 11/8/2017 3:06:08 PM EDT [Last Edit: JethrOO] [#35] Apologies if this has been discussed before, but what is the viability of using an Eotech EXPS3 and G33 magnifier? What kind of cheekweld would I get?

RDTCU Member Joined Oct 2008 Posts 36294 EE 100% (29) SC, USA	Posted: 11/8/2017 3:09:58 PM EDT [#36] Quote History Originally Posted By JethrOO: Apologies if this has been discussed before, but what is the viability of using an Eotech EXPS3 and G33 magnifier? What kind of cheekweld would I get? View Quote chin weld, you mean.

plinker8 Member Joined Aug 2015 Posts 1637 EE 100% (22) CT, USA	Posted: 11/10/2017 11:41:26 AM EDT [#37] Anybodys lowers seem to not like USGI/metal mags? My Ares lower is fine but the FightLight one I bought yesterday will not let metal mags drop free. Pmags and Lancer mags are very free. Metal mags drop free in all other AR's and my other Ares so thinking its gotta be the new lower. Anyone else?

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Posted: 11/10/2017 11:54:06 AM EDT

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Originally Posted By plinker8:
Anybodys lowers seem to not like USGI/metal mags? My Ares lower is fine but the FightLight one I bought yesterday will not let metal mags drop free. Pmags and Lancer mags are very free. Metal mags drop free in all other AR's and my other Ares so thinking its gotta be the new lower. Anyone else?

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Check the corner radii of the mags vs the lower.

plinker8 Member Joined Aug 2015 Posts 1640 EE 100% (22) CT, USA	Posted: 11/10/2017 12:01:03 PM EDT [#39] Quote History Originally Posted By RDTCU: Check the corner radii of the mags vs the lower. View Quote Good idea, will check when im back home later

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Posted: 11/11/2017 12:59:52 AM EDT

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Originally Posted By plinker8:
Anybodys lowers seem to not like USGI/metal mags? My Ares lower is fine but the FightLight one I bought yesterday will not let metal mags drop free. Pmags and Lancer mags are very free. Metal mags drop free in all other AR's and my other Ares so thinking its gotta be the new lower. Anyone else?

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Mine doesn't like my Alexander Arms metal mags. Tough to get in, slow to get out.

Bad picture of my rifle (SCR lower with qd sling, side charger upper with Lilja 18" 6.5 Grendel barrel, G rail, SWFA SS X10 fixed power):

plinker8 Member Joined Aug 2015 Posts 1681 EE 100% (22) CT, USA	Posted: 12/6/2017 1:06:59 PM EDT [#41] Well tried to order a G Rail from PSA and got denied(douchebags), so Ive moved on to glass... What are you guys using for mounts to get some decent cheek weld? Going with some sort of 1-4 or 1-6 on this build

Moses06 Joined Feb 2015 Posts 95 EE 100% (45) USA	Posted: 12/16/2017 11:15:42 PM EDT [#42] Just needs a bipod and some scope rings.

Andromax Member Joined Jul 2002 Posts 914 EE 100% (23) AK, USA	Posted: 12/17/2017 6:28:14 AM EDT [#43] Quote History Originally Posted By Moses06: Just needs a bipod and some scope rings. https://i.imgur.com/IBofoEWh.jpg View Quote Looks good. Forget the bipod!

Ranger1183 Joined Feb 2008 Posts 4 EE 0% (0) MT, USA	Posted: 2/12/2018 9:31:34 PM EDT [#44] I have the PISTON version of the Ares / Fightlite SCR. Has anyone done a free-floating handguard swap on the PISTON model before? I'm looking for any "head's up" before I get too far down the road. Thanks!

plinker8 Atlanta Joined Aug 2015 Posts 2382 EE 100% (22) CT, USA	Posted: 2/13/2018 1:18:12 PM EDT [#45] Im really liking this thing Only thing it needs is the bolt catch, wish it would of just came with it in the box

NotanATFagent Did you just shoulder your pistol brace?? Joined Mar 2017 Posts 3749 EE 100% (9) MI, USA	Posted: 2/14/2018 9:08:42 AM EDT [Last Edit: NotanATFagent] [#46] Just found out what an SCR is. What’s the story on these? Does it have any benefits over a standard AR-15? Or more of just a novelty for us "free states"? I saw this picture and my love for the PPSH started going off the charts. Attached File
	That 16" barrel looks suspiciously like it's 15.9" long ...

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Posted: 2/14/2018 9:20:11 AM EDT

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Originally Posted By NotanATFagent: Just found out what an SCR is. What’s the story on these?

Price?

I saw this picture and my love for the PPSH started going off the charts.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/464598/CEA9460D-C78A-4B60-B347-A5B77E996FE2-451585.JPG

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Think that's a copy, and there may be legal entanglements w/ that. Good looking, though.

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RDTCU Member Joined Oct 2008 Posts 36880 EE 100% (29) SC, USA	Posted: 2/14/2018 9:41:03 AM EDT [Last Edit: RDTCU] [#48] Quote History Originally Posted By backbencher: Think that's a copy, and there may be legal entanglements w/ that. Good looking, though. View Quote Straight-up ripoff by JJFU. He calls it the "Califus Nomad"

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Posted: 2/14/2018 5:19:46 PM EDT

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It's been a while since I've checked into this thread. I've finally decided to start building the SCR lower I bought like a year ago. Has anyone successfully built a .458 SOCOM version?

I'm asking because I just bought a .458 SOCOM BCG that I plan to use the bolt from and got a free .458 SOCOM stripped upper from Primary Arms. I'd like to use it on the SCR.

So would building a .458 SOCOM be a good idea or a terrible one?

I also need to order another SCR lower...you know...for when cum guzzling murphy bans ARs.

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Posted: 2/14/2018 6:42:38 PM EDT

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.458 SOCOM is always a hard recoiling, hard-hitting idea. It doesn't suppress spectacularly well. It gives you low-end .45-70 ballistics in an AR-15 upper. I wouldn't put it in a pistol unless I had that much money to bruise the crap outta my friends' hands for shits & giggles. If you wanted a bear rifle, wouldn't be the worst idea w/ that handy to carry stock.

Should work fine on an SCR lower, but you may have to tune the gas a bit, dunno. Probably should use carbine gas, though.

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