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Posted: 5/11/2014 4:46:10 PM EDT
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Shot my LE6920 (my first AR-15) for the first time yesterday and the trigger seems real gritty. It had plenty of oil, just seemed gritty - no other word for it. Pull a little and it gives a little and needs a little more pull. My buddy, who has more experience than I do, said the same. I shot his DD and it seemed much smoother. What to do, new trigger I suppose. I've heard good thing things about the Hiperfire 24C. Might give it a try unless someone has a better idea.
Thanks for the input. Rick |
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You don't have a problem, you have a new Colt.
If you intend to keep your current trigger you have several choices to improve the situation. 1. Cycle the trigger about 5000 times until the sear surfaces finally smooth themselves out. 2. Remove the hammer and trigger, smooth and then polish the sear surfaces to a mirror finish. 3. Do #2 above and install a set of reduced power springs If you don't mind replacing your existing trigger then replace it with something with a good out-of-the-box reputation to suit your needs. |
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It's a stock mil-spec trigger. They are all over the place. Some are decent, some not so much.
They all generally get better with use. A stock trigger is fine, and will serve it's purpose, but if you want a great trigger, you need to pony up the funds and get a Geissele. |
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It's a stock mil-spec trigger. They are all over the place. Some are decent, some not so much. They all generally get better with use. A stock trigger is fine, and will serve it's purpose, but if you want a great trigger, you need to pony up the funds and get a Geissele. This! |
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I never thought I would say this before owning an AR, but spending ~$200 on a Geissele trigger is one of the best functional mods you can make to an AR. I had a pretty good factory trigger and I am still amazed how much better the SSA is.
There are aftermarket triggers from $50-300 that will be better than the factory trigger. If you don't want to spend any money, then do as others have suggested, cycle it until your fingers fall off and then cycle it some more or pull it out and polish the shit out of it. |
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2. Remove the hammer and trigger, smooth and then polish the sear surfaces to a mirror finish. 3. Do #2 above and install a set of reduced power springs Yes, please remove too much material and destroy your new trigger. Or get consistent doubling and go to jail on internet advice. Shoot it or replace it. If you're new to the platform these are your options. Don't try to become an experienced armorer/smith just because you bought an AR and found Arfcom. I do a lot of my own work to my guns but I really dont fuck with fire control groups. |
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Yes, please remove too much material and destroy your new trigger. Or get consistent doubling and go to jail on internet advice. Shoot it or replace it. If you're new to the platform these are your options. Don't try to become an experienced armorer/smith just because you bought an AR and found Arfcom. I do a lot of my own work to my guns but I really dont fuck with fire control groups. Quoted:
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2. Remove the hammer and trigger, smooth and then polish the sear surfaces to a mirror finish. 3. Do #2 above and install a set of reduced power springs Yes, please remove too much material and destroy your new trigger. Or get consistent doubling and go to jail on internet advice. Shoot it or replace it. If you're new to the platform these are your options. Don't try to become an experienced armorer/smith just because you bought an AR and found Arfcom. I do a lot of my own work to my guns but I really dont fuck with fire control groups. I'm pretty sure he said polish not grind. There is plenty enough hardend material on spec triggers for a little light polishing. |
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If you are that new to AR's you need to be careful of what advice you take. If you just can not get used to that trigger would you consider surgery? so now consider the surgery on yourself first just for safety sake...really?
Yea.... that does not make sense on propose. The Safe way is to work/dry-fire if it gets smoother fine. Most likely not. Replacement is the best solution. There are many components on the market most are good or better than factory. Now think of this option... you modify the parts yourself in this overly litigious society. Standard "Mil-Spec" parts are only surface hardened even over polishing them will destroy them in the long run (next year). |
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I'm pretty sure he said polish not grind. There is plenty enough hardend material on spec triggers for a little light polishing. Quoted:
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2. Remove the hammer and trigger, smooth and then polish the sear surfaces to a mirror finish. 3. Do #2 above and install a set of reduced power springs Yes, please remove too much material and destroy your new trigger. Or get consistent doubling and go to jail on internet advice. Shoot it or replace it. If you're new to the platform these are your options. Don't try to become an experienced armorer/smith just because you bought an AR and found Arfcom. I do a lot of my own work to my guns but I really dont fuck with fire control groups. I'm pretty sure he said polish not grind. There is plenty enough hardend material on spec triggers for a little light polishing. Yeah, and he can undertstand from osmosis or telepathy that what was meant was LIGHT polishing. And the OP has polished enough steel to know what a light polish looks like, can you at least see where I'm going with this? |
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Shot my LE6920 (my first AR-15) for the first time yesterday and the trigger seems real gritty. It had plenty of oil, just seemed gritty - no other word for it. Pull a little and it gives a little and needs a little more pull. My buddy, who has more experience than I do, said the same. I shot his DD and it seemed much smoother. What to do, new trigger I suppose. I've heard good thing things about the Hiperfire 24C. Might give it a try unless someone has a better idea. Thanks for the input. Rick You shot your first AR for the first time OP. Colt makes some good stuff but it's usually not the most refined rifle out of the box in regards to fin and finish either. After 500 dry fires and/or 500 rounds you will see that that trigger will smooth up quite a bit. I don't like using oil on the trigger parts for the first 500 rounds or so; just so the surfaces can mate up a little better without the oil. I oil said parts after 500 rounds and then everything smooths up and gets better and better. Of course if your looking for a trigger pull out of a custom Weatherby Magnum then your going to be a little disappointed in the AR platform. Shoot it stock for a while, let things mate up a bit. Then decide if you want to drop in a Geissele SSA trigger in your 9620... |
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Unless it's a range toy do not modify the stock trigger or springs. Purchase a known good trigger from a reputable manufacturer. I would personally not go under 4 lbs unless it's a target gun only. This. I find a 4.5 to true 5lb trigger to be optimal on an AR. Don't modify the trigger by yourself OP. Shoot/dry fire the piss out of it to let things mate up or replace the trigger with a Geissele SSA... |
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The ALG ACT is $65 and is basically a cleaned up mil-spec single-stage trigger, very smooth and crisp, and standard weight; I run one in my Colt 6951 (9mm). If you're just getting started with ARs then the ALG ACT is an excellent budget upgrade. ALG is Amy Geissele's company. The two-stage Geissele triggers are worth the money if you really want a two-stage trigger. If you're going to trick it out for something like high power competition or 3-gun competition then definitely upgrade to a Geissele. Geissele Trigger Application Guide For some reason that page does not list the G2S ($165). |
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I never thought I would say this before owning an AR, but spending ~$200 on a Geissele trigger is one of the best functional mods you can make to an AR. I had a pretty good factory trigger and I am still amazed how much better the SSA is. +1 Makes a HUGE difference shooting beyond 100 yards |
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Geissele, your problems are over for around $200 bucks. Its the best 200 bucks you will spend on any rifle I agree the Geissele trigger is the way to go. My favorite is the SSA-E. I have several Colt AR's and everyone except the model 6724 Enhanced H3 had gritty unsatisfactory triggers. I tried the 500 pull method, various lubes and greases and nothing made a silk purse out of a cows ear. Yes some AR's like DD, Noveske and BCM have a decent trigger but still they are combat triggers with reasonably heavy pulls, go Geissele you won't be sorry. |
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Quoted: The ALG ACT is $65 and is basically a cleaned up mil-spec single-stage trigger, very smooth and crisp, and standard weight; I run one in my Colt 6951 (9mm). If you're just getting started with ARs then the ALG ACT is an excellent budget upgrade. ALG is Amy Geissele's company. The ACT is a very nice trigger, the Geisseles are even nicer if you want to spend around $200.
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