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12/21/2013 3:29:19 PM EDT
I recently bought a new Rainier Arms match grade nickel boron BCG for my Windham AR. I'm all kinds of excited to see how this thing runs today when I get it to the range and BOOM, wouldn't you know it, the rifle is not extracting the spent casings. So now it's stripping another round from the top of the mag and jamming itself up. This wasn't a one time thing. It happened every time I pulled the trigger. Not sure what the issue is. The gun ran flawlessly before I put this thing in. Please help. Thanks.
12/21/2013 3:40:41 PM EDT
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Sounds like the extractor or extractor spring replace with an xpower spring and go from there check the insert as well.
12/21/2013 3:50:37 PM EDT
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I would guess extractor or it's a different weight and not working with your current buffer. If it's a full auto profile bcg you may need a heavier buffer. Start with the extractor being the cheapest. Also take it apart and five everything a good cleaning and oiling. I had to do this with a new bcg I got. The oil they packed and shipped it in was causing some binding up.
12/21/2013 3:53:18 PM EDT
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Use the extractor assembly spring,insert from the windham bolt and put on the new bolt and see if it clears up.
12/21/2013 4:06:26 PM EDT
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it's a full auto BCG, but I cant see how that would cause a fail to extract.
12/21/2013 4:09:52 PM EDT
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Did you tear it down, clean it, and oil it, before running it?
12/21/2013 4:14:06 PM EDT
[#6]
Yeah, I took it apart the second it showed up in the mail
12/21/2013 4:33:46 PM EDT
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Here is the LINK for the part.
12/21/2013 4:47:35 PM EDT
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If it turns out to be the extractor spring I use THESE. Never had a problem at all with them.
12/21/2013 4:57:32 PM EDT
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What I would try. While you have it disassembled compare the two for any mechanical differences also. Likely something simple. Rainier will do whatever it takes to remedy the problem if it comes to that.
12/21/2013 6:01:39 PM EDT
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I recently bought a new Rainier Arms match grade nickel boron BCG for my Windham AR. I'm all kinds of excited to see how this thing runs today when I get it to the range and BOOM, wouldn't you know it, the rifle is not extracting the spent casings. So now it's stripping another round from the top of the mag and jamming itself up. This wasn't a one time thing. It happened every time I pulled the trigger. Not sure what the issue is. The gun ran flawlessly before I put this thing in. Please help. Thanks.
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That's called a clue.

Not to piss in your Cheerios but ask yourself what is it going to really do for you that what came with it won't.
12/21/2013 6:06:31 PM EDT
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That's called a clue.

Not to piss in your Cheerios but ask yourself what is it going to really do for you that what came with it won't.
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I recently bought a new Rainier Arms match grade nickel boron BCG for my Windham AR. I'm all kinds of excited to see how this thing runs today when I get it to the range and BOOM, wouldn't you know it, the rifle is not extracting the spent casings. So now it's stripping another round from the top of the mag and jamming itself up. This wasn't a one time thing. It happened every time I pulled the trigger. Not sure what the issue is. The gun ran flawlessly before I put this thing in. Please help. Thanks.


That's called a clue.

Not to piss in your Cheerios but ask yourself what is it going to really do for you that what came with it won't.

I get it, but I'm not the first guy in this forum to upgrade the BCG in my rifle. I bought it because I shoot a lot and cleaning the NiB is a lot easier than scrubbing and scraping the standard phosphate carrier that came with the gun.
12/21/2013 7:18:58 PM EDT
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Take the old bolt, and put it in your NiB carrier.  It's not the ideal situation you signed up for, but if it works, you're not dead in the water while you service your NiB bolt.
12/21/2013 10:25:08 PM EDT
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When you put it back together, were all the parts there?  Before you got on here and asked the question, did you bother taking the thing apart to make sure the extractor spring is 1. There, or 2. Not broken?
12/22/2013 12:10:50 AM EDT
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That's called a clue.

Not to piss in your Cheerios but ask yourself what is it going to really do for you that what came with it won't.
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I recently bought a new Rainier Arms match grade nickel boron BCG for my Windham AR. I'm all kinds of excited to see how this thing runs today when I get it to the range and BOOM, wouldn't you know it, the rifle is not extracting the spent casings. So now it's stripping another round from the top of the mag and jamming itself up. This wasn't a one time thing. It happened every time I pulled the trigger. Not sure what the issue is. The gun ran flawlessly before I put this thing in. Please help. Thanks.


That's called a clue.

Not to piss in your Cheerios but ask yourself what is it going to really do for you that what came with it won't.


12/22/2013 4:25:31 AM EDT
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I get it, but I'm not the first guy in this forum to upgrade the BCG in my rifle. I bought it because I shoot a lot and cleaning the NiB is a lot easier than scrubbing and scraping the standard phosphate carrier that came with the gun.
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"upgrade huh"





btw you should not be scraping the bc, ever!!!
as posted , try the old bolt in the new bc, if that not it, then the bc is leaking gas
 
12/22/2013 5:12:31 AM EDT
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That's called a clue.

Not to piss in your Cheerios but ask yourself what is it going to really do for you that what came with it won't.
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I recently bought a new Rainier Arms match grade nickel boron BCG for my Windham AR. I'm all kinds of excited to see how this thing runs today when I get it to the range and BOOM, wouldn't you know it, the rifle is not extracting the spent casings. So now it's stripping another round from the top of the mag and jamming itself up. This wasn't a one time thing. It happened every time I pulled the trigger. Not sure what the issue is. The gun ran flawlessly before I put this thing in. Please help. Thanks.


That's called a clue.

Not to piss in your Cheerios but ask yourself what is it going to really do for you that what came with it won't.


My thought exactly.  
12/22/2013 5:16:09 AM EDT
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Let's keep this on topic, which is troubleshooting the problem. People overpaying for BCG's with upgrades of questionable utility isn't the topic.
12/22/2013 7:19:57 AM EDT
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http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_179/241354_Question_about_Rainier_NiB_BCG_I_just_received_.html

In the Rainier Industry forum, some people had problems with NiB BCGs. Rainier took care of them. You may want to post there and also get ahold of Rainiers customer service. Your in good hands.
12/22/2013 7:22:17 AM EDT
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does it have an o-ring on the extractor spring? if not, add it
12/22/2013 9:21:44 AM EDT
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"upgrade huh"

btw you should not be scraping the bc, ever!!!


as posted , try the old bolt in the new bc, if that not it, then the bc is leaking gas



 
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I get it, but I'm not the first guy in this forum to upgrade the BCG in my rifle. I bought it because I shoot a lot and cleaning the NiB is a lot easier than scrubbing and scraping the standard phosphate carrier that came with the gun.
"upgrade huh"

btw you should not be scraping the bc, ever!!!


as posted , try the old bolt in the new bc, if that not it, then the bc is leaking gas



 

I think he meant bolt
12/22/2013 10:26:19 AM EDT
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The first thing to do is to take the bolt apart, and check that the extractor spring has a extractor spring insert inside it.

That little plug of silicone will make all the difference in how well the gun extracts, or if it extracts at all.

If the extractor spring insert is in there, I'd go ahead and replace the extractor spring and extractor spring insert.

On another track, I don't remember seeing where you stated what kind of ammo you are using, but if you were shooting steel case, I'd try adding the o-ring.
12/22/2013 3:51:51 PM EDT
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you dont scrape that either/ever
 
12/22/2013 4:03:51 PM EDT
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you dont scrape that either/ever



 
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I scrape both all of the time.  Always did in the Marine Corps too.
12/22/2013 4:17:17 PM EDT
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I had to do this with a new bcg I got
12/22/2013 4:51:50 PM EDT
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You need to tell this breaking news to US Army and Marine Corps. Obviously you haven't put 4K+ rounds through an AR with DI.
12/22/2013 4:57:02 PM EDT
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Guess keeping it on topic was too much to ask.
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